Seattle Seahawks thread

Originally posted by Eviltwin66:
Copy that "still over"

Is that what you guys call us, the 1-2's, just out of curiosity what does that mean, haven't been on these boards in a while, missed that conversation.

It's a reference to the Seahawks SB record with a derogatory spin on the "12's". Sort of clever actually, and it does not offend me at all. It is the team's SB record (I'm just glad the team has had 3 trips to the game), and I've never considered myself a "12". I'm just a fan of the NFL and the team.

Originally posted by Canfan:

Originally posted by Eviltwin66:
Copy that "still over"

Is that what you guys call us, the 1-2's, just out of curiosity what does that mean, haven't been on these boards in a while, missed that conversation.

It's a reference to the Seahawks SB record with a derogatory spin on the "12's". Sort of clever actually, and it does not offend me at all. It is the team's SB record (I'm just glad the team has had 3 trips to the game), and I've never considered myself a "12". I'm just a fan of the NFL and the team.

Ah got it, yup pretty clever....

Originally posted by Eviltwin66:
Ah got it, yup pretty clever....

you guys can call us the 49ers because that's what other teams average in scoring against us.

also how many years it's been since our last title
or how many years it'll be before another shot at a title.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
you guys can call us the 49ers because that's what other teams average in scoring against us.

also how many years it's been since our last title
or how many years it'll be before another shot at a title.

49 more year? Don't think so. Jed's 36 or 37 now isn't he? No way he can still be hanging around screwing you guys over that far down the line. If he is, the whole theory on Darwinism is a sham!

Originally posted by Eviltwin66:
Grasping at straws? So just to be clear, you agree it was a penalty and should have been called, which would have resulted in offsetting penalties. So I'm confused at the grasping at straws comment. That is the current rule, if two players on both sides of the ball commit a penalty, those penalties will offset each other and the down will be replayed. Seahawk fans didn't make that rule. So not sure how us Seahawk fans are doing mental gymnastics?

You're being obtuse on purpose. I get that. Fans don't go to their rival teams' boards to be objective and have civil discussion. 99% of the Seahawks fans visiting this site would stop coming to the Web Zone if the Seahawks were in the 49ers' position (non-contenders, etc), I guarantee that.

Officials obviously let players get away with more at the end of the game. They're less likely to call ticky-tacky calls (like Jones' Hands To the Face). Usually, the only time when they call a penalty is when it is egregious. Thomas (hitting Julio Jones in the hip with his shoulder before he even made contact with the ball) and Sherman (literally holding one of Jones' arms down so he had to attempt to catch a ball one-handed) both committed egregiously bad penalties, Jones didn't.

If we went back and looked at the game, you could probably find about 20 plays where either teams' cornerbacks committed illegal contact or a receiver pushed off but it went uncalled. You could find maybe 1-2 plays the entire game where a penalty as egregious as Sherman/Thomas PI but it went uncalled.

Stop being so ****ing obtuse. You are being utterly pedantic and it is annoying as hell. Yes, technically, both players committed penalties, and technically, in a vacuum, it would've been offsetting penalties and a replay of downs. But you and I both know full-well that the only time penalties are called at the end of games is when its egregious, and the only egregious offenders in this case were the Seahawks.

But, again, I know I'm wasting my breath. You didn't come here for an objective discussion. Sure, you'll pretend you're here with good intentions, but that's simply not the case.

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by Eviltwin66:
Grasping at straws? So just to be clear, you agree it was a penalty and should have been called, which would have resulted in offsetting penalties. So I'm confused at the grasping at straws comment. That is the current rule, if two players on both sides of the ball commit a penalty, those penalties will offset each other and the down will be replayed. Seahawk fans didn't make that rule. So not sure how us Seahawk fans are doing mental gymnastics?

You're being obtuse on purpose. I get that. Fans don't go to their rival teams' boards to be objective and have civil discussion. 99% of the Seahawks fans visiting this site would stop coming to the Web Zone if the Seahawks were in the 49ers' position (non-contenders, etc), I guarantee that.

Officials obviously let players get away with more at the end of the game. They're less likely to call ticky-tacky calls (like Jones' Hands To the Face). Usually, the only time when they call a penalty is when it is egregious. Thomas (hitting Julio Jones in the hip with his shoulder before he even made contact with the ball) and Sherman (literally holding one of Jones' arms down so he had to attempt to catch a ball one-handed) both committed egregiously bad penalties, Jones didn't.

If we went back and looked at the game, you could probably find about 20 plays where either teams' cornerbacks committed illegal contact or a receiver pushed off but it went uncalled. You could find maybe 1-2 plays the entire game where a penalty as egregious as Sherman/Thomas PI but it went uncalled.

Stop being so ****ing obtuse. You are being utterly pedantic and it is annoying as hell. Yes, technically, both players committed penalties, and technically, in a vacuum, it would've been offsetting penalties and a replay of downs. But you and I both know full-well that the only time penalties are called at the end of games is when its egregious, and the only egregious offenders in this case were the Seahawks.

But, again, I know I'm wasting my breath. You didn't come here for an objective discussion. Sure, you'll pretend you're here with good intentions, but that's simply not the case.

No I'm here to talk football, I just simply disagree with you, and your explanation. No other agenda, other than I do like a good debate, guilty as charged.

Again I ask if both those penalties were so egregious, why where they not called? Because the NFL loves the Seahawks? Because it was a bang bang play? Because the ref's were letting them play? Which to me makes more sense, because the force it took to almost knock Sherman to the ground was every bit as blatant as the other two to anybody who knows the rules. It was the very reason why the rule was established in the first place, to not give the receiver an advantage coming off the line and vice versa for the DB.

The force it took to "knock Sherman to the ground"? Seriously? LMAO. Get bent.

HaHa copy that, getting bent.

Dicksherm got a taste of his own medicine. LOL

Originally posted by Canfan:
The play in the CFL has been slowed down to the point it is almost as unwatchable as the referee crew made Monday night football this week. In fact, it is so bad that the CFL for the first time in its 104 year history implemented a new rule at mid season, so that coaches throwing random flags "just because" now lose a time out if their first challenge is not successful. In the big scheme of things I will put up with the imperfections of the human ref's rather than go down the road the CFL has tried. Sometimes you get a non call go in favour of your team like Sherman vs Julio, and sometimes you are on the short end. Baldwin getting knocked off his route in the end zone when the ball was in the air vs the Chiefs in 2014 was at least as blatant an interference as what we saw on Sunday and also the last play of the game for Seattle's offense. We didn't get the call. In those cases, I'm all in favour of cursing Goodell, the football Gods and whoever thought it was a good idea to put a ref on the field that shouldn't be allowed out in public without a service dog. However I am not, and never will be in favour of making PI challengable. The cure is truly worse than the disease.

Thanks for the write-up, this was a great perspective.

The game is becoming a lot slower. I mean, hell, now every touchdown and turnover is challenged. As if the game isn't slow enough already. I could totally see reviewable penalties being abused, just like you described happening in the CFL.

I think the frustration most fans here have is it seems like Seattle has had more fortune than not over the last 3-4 years. It's hard to say how much of it is fact, and how much of it is just confirmation bias. I certainly don't think there's a conspiracy or foul play.

There is certainly a large number of NFL viewers who don't care for the Seahawks or their fans so the negative stories tend to get a lot of attention in some venues. The national press also doesn't seem to care much for the team - likely a result of being harassed by a (hopefully) small but rabid contingent of the fan base who seem to expect adoration of the team by the press and are over sensitive to criticism. It pisses people off who have a hand in sculpting the national storylines.

I think a few more calls have gone the Seahawks way in the last few years than have gone against them. But they also seem to happen on the national stage, and calls going against the Seahawks don't tend to draw the same attention. I certainly don't think there is anything intentional going on.
I do find it interesting that "Inside the NFL" this week showed the controversial non call on Sherman, but not the beginning of the play with the head slap that's been discussed here. The really strange part was that they didn't just avoid showing the head slap, they edited in another play from earlier in the game where there was no contact. I have no conclusions I can draw from this, and not enough information to even guess why this was done, but I do offer it up as a curiosity. That level of editing didn't happen by accident, but I have no idea what the motive could be.

Get over it dude. Lmao.

Yes, that "head slap" by julio nearly ruined dick's career and reputation, and almost caused the precios seaturds the game, but dick will bounce back. He's obviously a fighter...

Live on to hold another down...

I gave no opinion on the head slap or how it did or did not affect the play. In fact in an earlier post I said I didn't believe it would have warranted a penalty. Everybody is quite capable of making their own judgement on that, so I have nothing to "get over". I don't expect or crave your approval of my opinions, which I try to keep to myself as I'm a guest on a 49er site. I was just wondering if anybody else had noticed the curious editing on a show that I generally consider to be informative and entertaining. I found it puzzling and thought others might too. There is now a story up about it on ESPN, so it's not like I imagined the whole thing.

I did not watch either show. But it is puzzling. Amazing in fact.

Omg. How curious. Why in the heck

Originally posted by Canfan:
I gave no opinion on the head slap or how it did or did not affect the play. In fact in an earlier post I said I didn't believe it would have warranted a penalty. Everybody is quite capable of making their own judgement on that, so I have nothing to "get over". I don't expect or crave your approval of my opinions, which I try to keep to myself as I'm a guest on a 49er site. I was just wondering if anybody else had noticed the curious editing on a show that I generally consider to be informative and entertaining. I found it puzzling and thought others might too. There is now a story up about it on ESPN, so it's not like I imagined the whole thing.

It's bizarre that the NFL would edit the clip.
What are they playing at?