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Originally posted by Morgan49:

The gif that keeps on giffing
Originally posted by stimpy:
Originally posted by leebert81:
Originally posted by Eviltwin66:
TD was very close, they really didn't show it from all angles for whatever reason, I guess because AZ went right back to the LOS and ran another play. Why AZ didn't challenge was beyond me?

Wagner's toe barely scraped the back of the center when he jumped over, didn't effect the center in any way shape or form. Was it a penalty technically, yes, but in real speed, no way a ref could have seen it, and would have been extremely ticky tack if called. It was obvious Hawks were on the losing end of the called penalties last night, how they stayed in that game is a feat in of it self.

The originally threw the flag so there obviously was a way for the refs to see it. They talked about it then decided to not follow the rules and picked up the flag.

What rule was not followed? Dean Blandino clarified why the Wagner leap was legal even with the toe tap to the snappers back.

using his teammates to gain leverage
Originally posted by leebert81:
Originally posted by stimpy:
Originally posted by leebert81:
Originally posted by Eviltwin66:
TD was very close, they really didn't show it from all angles for whatever reason, I guess because AZ went right back to the LOS and ran another play. Why AZ didn't challenge was beyond me?

Wagner's toe barely scraped the back of the center when he jumped over, didn't effect the center in any way shape or form. Was it a penalty technically, yes, but in real speed, no way a ref could have seen it, and would have been extremely ticky tack if called. It was obvious Hawks were on the losing end of the called penalties last night, how they stayed in that game is a feat in of it self.

The originally threw the flag so there obviously was a way for the refs to see it. They talked about it then decided to not follow the rules and picked up the flag.

What rule was not followed? Dean Blandino clarified why the Wagner leap was legal even with the toe tap to the snappers back.

using his teammates to gain leverage

There was no flag on the second kick so you must've been referring to the first kick below unless you're mixing up the two. Do you see leverage gained on either?



[ Edited by stimpy on Oct 24, 2016 at 11:05 AM ]
Originally posted by stimpy:
Originally posted by leebert81:
Originally posted by stimpy:
Originally posted by leebert81:
Originally posted by Eviltwin66:
TD was very close, they really didn't show it from all angles for whatever reason, I guess because AZ went right back to the LOS and ran another play. Why AZ didn't challenge was beyond me?

Wagner's toe barely scraped the back of the center when he jumped over, didn't effect the center in any way shape or form. Was it a penalty technically, yes, but in real speed, no way a ref could have seen it, and would have been extremely ticky tack if called. It was obvious Hawks were on the losing end of the called penalties last night, how they stayed in that game is a feat in of it self.

The originally threw the flag so there obviously was a way for the refs to see it. They talked about it then decided to not follow the rules and picked up the flag.

What rule was not followed? Dean Blandino clarified why the Wagner leap was legal even with the toe tap to the snappers back.

using his teammates to gain leverage

There was no flag on the second kick so you must've been referring to the first kick below unless you're mixing up the two. Do you see leverage gained on either?




Looks like he used his left hand on his teamate to help get over cleanly. No clue if within the rules or not.
I love the sound of a football hitting the goal post. "BONK"!
Originally posted by LisaTwelve:
crazy game, indeed.
first tie in Seahawks franchise history.

Brian Nemhauser ‏@hawkblogger
The Seahawks held the Cardinals to 6 points despite 46+ mins of possession.
That set an NFL record. #HB7

Field Gulls ‏@FieldGulls
Cardinals have been involved in all three 6-6 ties since WWII

Dick Fain ‏@dickfain
Offense in OT- 127 yards in 17 plays for 7.5ypp
Offense in regulation- 130 yards in 40 plays for 3.25ypp

Brian Nemhauser ‏@hawkblogger
No team had ever lost or tied a game when they had a 150+ yardage margin, 0 turnovers, and gave up 0 TDs
before tonight. #HB7

Gregg Bell ‏@gbellseattle
#Seahawks locker room a chilling reminder of toll NFL games can take on bodies.
Richard Sherman could not talk. Needing help walking.

Dont tell glory this. The Hawks defense is a shell of its former self according to him.
So they shut down Palmer and that passing attack even they gave up 300+ yds in reg or both reg/ot? Every dog has its day unlike last week when Ryan surgically removed their ballz.

Anyway I'll even admit that was a gutsy performance.
I am as much on the "Seahawks get the benefit of poor officiating ALL THE TIME" team as anyone else is.....

But Johnson did NOT score on that play:

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Old school hard hitting. What a game!!!
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I am as much on the "Seahawks get the benefit of poor officiating ALL THE TIME" team as anyone else is.....

But Johnson did NOT score on that play:


Holy crap! You can't get any closer to the endzone without getting it in! Truly a game of inches.
Originally posted by Canfan:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I am as much on the "Seahawks get the benefit of poor officiating ALL THE TIME" team as anyone else is.....

But Johnson did NOT score on that play:


Holy crap! You can't get any closer to the endzone without getting it in! Truly a game of inches.

I think the ball was a couple inches back when his toe hit the pylon....but yeah no more than 3 inches.
My biggest take aways from the game is that Wilson's lack of mobility is not getting better. He only tried to do a read option once and was easily brought down for no gain. Without the D Line having to honour the threat of the read option, Seattle's running game is getting exposed as a very poor one. Which leads me to my main take away. The tackles we have are both so poor that the offense can not even operate any time we face a team with good edge rushers. I think the center and guards will be servicable, as I see improvement week to week, but the tackles are vomit inducing.

Arizona had a great defensive game plan. Knowing they could pressure the outside of the pocket every play, they often clogged up the middle with A gap blitzes (or the threat of them). Wilson was forced to step up in the pocket, and the big uglies didn't have to get penetration, just being there was enough to prevent Wilson from seeing downfield. He couldn't slide to find throwing lanes like I've seen him do in other games - Arizona simply took those away. Without Wilson able to run, the secondary was able to do more man coverage and less zone. By and large, the Arizona defensive backs won their battles with the Seattle receivers. I expect every defense the Seahawks face for the next few weeks to give this a try. Until the offense can prove they can counter it, why woundn't they?

I don't care how good the defense is (and I think they are very good), this team may stagger into the playoffs as they are structured, but there is no way they go far unless there is a miraculous turn around on the offensive line. This running game is not going to win playoff football, and without a running game, the Seahawks offense doesn't even function.
Originally posted by stimpy:
There was no flag on the second kick so you must've been referring to the first kick below unless you're mixing up the two. Do you see leverage gained on either?






Originally posted by Canfan:
My biggest take aways from the game is that Wilson's lack of mobility is not getting better. He only tried to do a read option once and was easily brought down for no gain. Without the D Line having to honour the threat of the read option, Seattle's running game is getting exposed as a very poor one. Which leads me to my main take away. The tackles we have are both so poor that the offense can not even operate any time we face a team with good edge rushers. I think the center and guards will be servicable, as I see improvement week to week, but the tackles are vomit inducing.

Arizona had a great defensive game plan. Knowing they could pressure the outside of the pocket every play, they often clogged up the middle with A gap blitzes (or the threat of them). Wilson was forced to step up in the pocket, and the big uglies didn't have to get penetration, just being there was enough to prevent Wilson from seeing downfield. He couldn't slide to find throwing lanes like I've seen him do in other games - Arizona simply took those away. Without Wilson able to run, the secondary was able to do more man coverage and less zone. By and large, the Arizona defensive backs won their battles with the Seattle receivers. I expect every defense the Seahawks face for the next few weeks to give this a try. Until the offense can prove they can counter it, why woundn't they?

I don't care how good the defense is (and I think they are very good), this team may stagger into the playoffs as they are structured, but there is no way they go far unless there is a miraculous turn around on the offensive line. This running game is not going to win playoff football, and without a running game, the Seahawks offense doesn't even function.


I agree, good thing our starting RB is only a couple weeks away . Wilson will only get healthier as we go. Seriously though, the O line is what concerns me, I don't care who's back there at RB, if we move forward with what we currently have on the roster on the O line, I would have to agree with your post, early exit. If we could bring someone in who's serviceable at least, I think we'd be back on track.

Let's be honest, Lynch was special, but Lynch is very much gone. Time for the staff to realize that and start game planning and scheming for the personnel we now have on the team. First and foremost, accommodate for a extremely crappy O line, and a still hobbled QB.
[ Edited by Eviltwin66 on Oct 24, 2016 at 12:47 PM ]
I just rewatched the game on game pass condensed....

Unreal how much the Cardinals outplayed the Seahawks 20 to 20.....just a lot of bad luck scoring once they got in range.

Props to the Seahawk defense for a ferocious effort, but 9 times out of 10 you lose a game like that.

Buffalo and Philly are big threats for a home loss for the Hawks. After seeing the way they terrorized offensive lines recently, they are gunning for Wilson no doubt.
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