Rules that should be changed

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:

There is no "make adjustment" to the way you tackle. Even in a perfect form tackle the body is led by the head. The rule is idiotic And should be dismissed immediately. When you watch rugby players tackle they are still lead by their head. Will be flag football soon.

— Richard Sherman (@RSherman_25) August 19, 2018

every year football is getting fun to watch anymore. he's right, it will be flag football soon, and NFL will keep acting like their product is so good. baseball is more physical than football now lol

I'm guessing that's not exactly what you intended to write.

You know what the refs should do if a player obviously puts his head down but the result is an ordinary simple tackle or even a missed tackle?

The red should have the option to give any player a warning letting them know that they will call it next time no different than how they talk to DBs and other players about too many hands and stuff like that. I think it will make the player adjust. If he doesn't, then it will be easier for the red to throw the flag since the warning has been given.

Originally posted by Joecool:

You know what the refs should do if a player obviously puts his head down but the result is an ordinary simple tackle or even a missed tackle?

The red should have the option to give any player a warning letting them know that they will call it next time no different than how they talk to DBs and other players about too many hands and stuff like that. I think it will make the player adjust. If he doesn't, then it will be easier for the red to throw the flag since the warning has been given.

I like.

Did you see that tackle, not hit, on the PHI TE last night that caused the ball to pop out for an INT? That was perfect and a great example of the new rule taking effect. Previous years, FS would have gone full spear, shoulder or head, into the TE's body. That FS played it as perfect as it should be. Good solid impact on contact with an immediate wrap upon impact insead of a missile-like tackle.

Instead of leaving his feet and throwing his body into the TE, he made the impact, kept his feet on the ground and kept pumping his feet.

What should be on the agenda this offseason:

- Pass Interference (or missed PI) reviewable
- Personal fouls hit (roughing passer, roughing kicker, defenseless receiver, chop block) reviewable
- Officially change offensive holding to the holding that is actually called - arm bars, jersey grabs, tackling. BUT ONLY if you officially allow the minimal hand fighting for defensive holding and PI to also go by the wayside. Essentially, if we're only gonna call the egregious stuff on the offense, then we should only call the egregious stuff on the defense. If the league is more concerned with penalties that lead to injuries they should ease up on the penalties that just prevent players from playing through.
- Defensive PI yardage maxed at 15 yards.
- Allow exception for declared onside kicks to allow players a 5-yard running start. The new rule to prevent injuries has greatly reduced the ability to successfully pull off an onside kick, and the onside kick rule is only there to begin with to allow a team down 9+ points a chance in the 4th quarter. The less onside kicks have a chance to succeed the less reason people have to watch the end of games where a team has a 9-16 point lead.

Originally posted by captveg:

What should be on the agenda this offseason:

- Pass Interference (or missed PI) reviewable
- Personal fouls hit (roughing passer, roughing kicker, defenseless receiver, chop block) reviewable
- Officially change offensive holding to the holding that is actually called - arm bars, jersey grabs, tackling. BUT ONLY if you officially allow the minimal hand fighting for defensive holding and PI to also go by the wayside. Essentially, if we're only gonna call the egregious stuff on the offense, then we should only call the egregious stuff on the defense. If the league is more concerned with penalties that lead to injuries they should ease up on the penalties that just prevent players from playing through.
- Defensive PI yardage maxed at 15 yards.
- Allow exception for declared onside kicks to allow players a 5-yard running start. The new rule to prevent injuries has greatly reduced the ability to successfully pull off an onside kick, and the onside kick rule is only there to begin with to allow a team down 9+ points a chance in the 4th quarter. The less onside kicks have a chance to succeed the less reason people have to watch the end of games where a team has a 9-16 point lead.

I could hardly stand to watch yesterday with all of the review stoppages, it made me remember why I don't watch NFL games live very often. Every close catch was reviewed. If they let them start reviewing every pass for PI and every tackle for a PF, it will become unbearable.

What ever happened with that new rule about leading with your helmet that defensive players were up in arms about? I don't recall it being called this year...just the standard helmet to helmet stuff...

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by captveg:
What should be on the agenda this offseason:

- Pass Interference (or missed PI) reviewable
- Personal fouls hit (roughing passer, roughing kicker, defenseless receiver, chop block) reviewable
- Officially change offensive holding to the holding that is actually called - arm bars, jersey grabs, tackling. BUT ONLY if you officially allow the minimal hand fighting for defensive holding and PI to also go by the wayside. Essentially, if we're only gonna call the egregious stuff on the offense, then we should only call the egregious stuff on the defense. If the league is more concerned with penalties that lead to injuries they should ease up on the penalties that just prevent players from playing through.
- Defensive PI yardage maxed at 15 yards.
- Allow exception for declared onside kicks to allow players a 5-yard running start. The new rule to prevent injuries has greatly reduced the ability to successfully pull off an onside kick, and the onside kick rule is only there to begin with to allow a team down 9+ points a chance in the 4th quarter. The less onside kicks have a chance to succeed the less reason people have to watch the end of games where a team has a 9-16 point lead.

I could hardly stand to watch yesterday with all of the review stoppages, it made me remember why I don't watch NFL games live very often. Every close catch was reviewed. If they let them start reviewing every pass for PI and every tackle for a PF, it will become unbearable.

I'd rather watch a 5-hour game where they get the calls right than a 3-hour game that dispels with any semblance of integrity.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by captveg:

What should be on the agenda this offseason:

- Pass Interference (or missed PI) reviewable
- Personal fouls hit (roughing passer, roughing kicker, defenseless receiver, chop block) reviewable
- Officially change offensive holding to the holding that is actually called - arm bars, jersey grabs, tackling. BUT ONLY if you officially allow the minimal hand fighting for defensive holding and PI to also go by the wayside. Essentially, if we're only gonna call the egregious stuff on the offense, then we should only call the egregious stuff on the defense. If the league is more concerned with penalties that lead to injuries they should ease up on the penalties that just prevent players from playing through.
- Defensive PI yardage maxed at 15 yards.
- Allow exception for declared onside kicks to allow players a 5-yard running start. The new rule to prevent injuries has greatly reduced the ability to successfully pull off an onside kick, and the onside kick rule is only there to begin with to allow a team down 9+ points a chance in the 4th quarter. The less onside kicks have a chance to succeed the less reason people have to watch the end of games where a team has a 9-16 point lead.

I could hardly stand to watch yesterday with all of the review stoppages, it made me remember why I don't watch NFL games live very often. Every close catch was reviewed. If they let them start reviewing every pass for PI and every tackle for a PF, it will become unbearable.

I'd rather watch a 5-hour game where they get the calls right than a 3-hour game that dispels with any semblance of integrity.

Not me, there is only 60 miniutes of clock and the actual time a play is being ran is 11-14 minutes. 4-5 hours to watch 10-15 minutes of playing time is way too much. The NFL was a better product in the 80s and 90s without replay IMO.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by captveg:

What should be on the agenda this offseason:

- Pass Interference (or missed PI) reviewable
- Personal fouls hit (roughing passer, roughing kicker, defenseless receiver, chop block) reviewable
- Officially change offensive holding to the holding that is actually called - arm bars, jersey grabs, tackling. BUT ONLY if you officially allow the minimal hand fighting for defensive holding and PI to also go by the wayside. Essentially, if we're only gonna call the egregious stuff on the offense, then we should only call the egregious stuff on the defense. If the league is more concerned with penalties that lead to injuries they should ease up on the penalties that just prevent players from playing through.
- Defensive PI yardage maxed at 15 yards.
- Allow exception for declared onside kicks to allow players a 5-yard running start. The new rule to prevent injuries has greatly reduced the ability to successfully pull off an onside kick, and the onside kick rule is only there to begin with to allow a team down 9+ points a chance in the 4th quarter. The less onside kicks have a chance to succeed the less reason people have to watch the end of games where a team has a 9-16 point lead.

I could hardly stand to watch yesterday with all of the review stoppages, it made me remember why I don't watch NFL games live very often. Every close catch was reviewed. If they let them start reviewing every pass for PI and every tackle for a PF, it will become unbearable.

I'd rather watch a 5-hour game where they get the calls right than a 3-hour game that dispels with any semblance of integrity.

Not me, there is only 60 miniutes of clock and the actual time a play is being ran is 11-14 minutes. 4-5 hours to watch 10-15 minutes of playing time is way too much. The NFL was a better product in the 80s and 90s without replay IMO.

I was being a bit heavy handed with my time, but there are ways they can still improve the time replays take. If they hired two more refs per game - one in the booth and one with a tablet on the sidelines, with these two conferring constantly with a dedicated official in New York for their game, most reviews would take 30 seconds. The tech is there.

And while I liked the NFL more in the 80s and 90s because the offenses and defenses were in better balance with each other, we may also have had another Niner championship with modern review because of the BS blown calls in the 1983 NFC Championship Game against the Redskins.

I think a lot of fans want PI and personal fouls to be reviewable, but I have no idea how you'd fix non-calls like the one that screwed the saints.

By the way, As a side note, I can't help but laugh at Saints fans today. I still remember Ahmad Brooks' hit on Brees that cost us home field in 2013. We all know how that ended.

That being said, the non-calls are the ones that make me the maddest. You see things called all season, and then the one time it's not called, your team gets screwed. It sucks.

I will never forget the helmet to helmet on Crabtree in the super bowl.

Originally posted by PowderdToastMn:

I think a lot of fans want PI and personal fouls to be reviewable, but I have no idea how you'd fix non-calls like the one that screwed the saints.

It's simply a part of the replay in the CFL. Coach sees on the jumbotron or broadcast that it was a blatant PI / hit to head that was missed, replay flag thrown (or initiated by replay booth when under 2 mins of half / OT). Replay returns, penalty flag is thrown/enforced. Done.

The rule / law when fans can't put hands on officials who blatantly ignore penalties #FixingGames

One thing I like is they typically stop the free play offsides that Rodgers was the king of. I'd to see more offensive PI or less defensive PI. Let them play or stop the offensive push offs. The QB new roughing penalties are often such a joke. Also, the helmet to helmet when the offensive player ducks into a hit shouldn't be a penalty on the defense. I like the longer extra point.

One thing that drove me crazy yesterday are the two officials meetings to declare the time on the clock was correct. Romo had a funny comment about that.

How about the rule stopping me from making threads about the obvious malware that is embedded in this website. It's more than obvious to anyone who visits this website that there is a problem but I'm not allowed to talk about it.

I have to keep an old phone around to deal with the issue. I've been coming to this website for over 10 years and can't not come back so can you guys just fix it. Unfortunately I'm beginning to believe it's actually on purpose.