Originally posted by SoCold:Originally posted by pdizo916:I HATE the fact that it's 3rd and long and a defensive player gets called for holding (prior to the pass) which is only a 5 yard penalty BUT it is an automatic first down. That's a b******t call and a cop out. It should be a 5 yard penalty only, and if it happens again on the same drive, then give them automatic first downs.
I also hate that defensive holding calls (prior to the pass) is only 5 but offensive holding is 10. They both should be 5 yards. 10 yards is way too harsh of a penalty.
Do not agree. Usually defensive holding happens as the defender holds onto a receiver because they get beat. It's basically a PI call before a pass is thrown. There is nothing wrong with that rule IMO. If it was only a 5 yard penalty you could just pull a receiver down to prevent him from catching a first down before the pass is throw, lol.
On offense you can't take downs away so the 10 yard penalty is needed. If it was only 5 yards guys would be holding even more than they do now.
IMO to fix the missed calls or ticky tack ones that shouldn't be called all plays need to be subject to review. If a team gains 20 yards and there's a holding call that brings the play back and it's in the 2nd Q a coach prob won't challenge that. If there's a minute left in the game and you gain 20 yards to put your team into FG range to win the game and it gets called back on a b******t holding call then you should be able to challenge it.
Yup ever since high school ball my coaches told me if I get beat on the jam just tackle them cause 15 yards is better than 6 points.