Richard Sherman CB

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

A ton of all pros in this draft.

Has that ever been true.

Anyway, im neutral. If it helps why not.

A ton of 6'+ corners that are fast and can jump out of the building and could become an all pro if they had Earl Thomas hiding their weaknesses?

Yup.

This poll just shows how DUMB our fan base is. The fact that some people don't want the best corner in the game because they don't like him and his personality?? Geeze

Originally posted by 49glory:

it would be nice if you all could look at prospective players by their play alone. So long as what he says off the field has nothing to do with what he does on the field I don't see a problem. I think he can get burned every now and then but hes still 10x better than every corner on our roster. also his attitude on the field is something the niners really need. The niners are a little too nice out there, we need more s**t talkers.

This! The 49ers have NO ATTITUDE and it shows. We need it BAD. remember how soft and 'classy' we were before Dieon Sanders showed up??

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

This poll just shows how DUMB our fan base is. The fact that some people don't want the best corner in the game because they don't like him and his personality?? Geeze

So, we'd be taking their headache off of their hands, giving them our assets and draft pick(s), then they turn around and draft a 6'+ cb who's fast and jumps (there's a ton of them in this draft).

So, they get more picks, younger players, and maybe one of our guys.

We get 2-3 years of Sherman while we're rebuilding.

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

This poll just shows how DUMB our fan base is. The fact that some people don't want the best corner in the game because they don't like him and his personality?? Geeze

So, we'd be taking their headache off of their hands, giving them our assets and draft pick(s), then they turn around and draft a 6'+ cb who's fast and jumps (there's a ton of them in this draft).

So, they get more picks, younger players, and maybe one of our guys.

We get 2-3 years of Sherman while we're rebuilding.

Wow! That's a lot of supposition. Has it been reported he's a headache? The question was would we take him on our team. It didn't ask about draft picks, costs etc. Also, the fact that ANYONE thinks they know how GOOD any of these picks will actually be is FOS. Let's deal with the question at hand, not what ifs.

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
This poll just shows how DUMB our fan base is. The fact that some people don't want the best corner in the game because they don't like him and his personality?? Geeze

So, we'd be taking their headache off of their hands, giving them our assets and draft pick(s), then they turn around and draft a 6'+ cb who's fast and jumps (there's a ton of them in this draft).

So, they get more picks, younger players, and maybe one of our guys.

We get 2-3 years of Sherman while we're rebuilding.

Well put....there in no way we should be even considering this during a rebuild. Sherman is NOT the best CB right now, he is slowing down, is far far too expensive, and is a pain in the a$$. We are getting rid of people like this, not trying to sign more of them. Pick and develop a young CB, don't pay for Seattle's problem child!!!

Maybe. If saleh thinks he would help im good with it. If not we move on.

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

• 49ers have NO ATTITUDE and it shows ...
• remember how soft and 'classy' we were before Deion Sanders showed up??

Bullet Point 1:
To a certain degree, I have to agree with this statement ... probably for different reasons though.
From my POV, most of the Attitude, Identity, and Swagger -- the team once had -- either retired,
joined another another team (via FA), is rehabbing, or is coaching in another city.

I believe our Coach and GM, are more than aware or this ... have a plan in place, and will continue
the Process-in-Progress -- which I feel was initiated upon their hires -- while they continue in this vein
later this month via the draft ... and in future drafts beyond.

Bullet Point 2:
Not to Highjack the Thread ... but seeing as you mentioned:

• soft
• classy
• we were (meaning the 49er Defense ???)
• and Deion Sanders, in the same sentence ... I couldn't help myself

I remember a certain level of decorum, before Deion arrived ... but I also remember:
each and every season, especially seasons the SB was won, before his arrival as well. The `Eddie D´, Camelot
Niners, will always be remembered for the WCO, and their Mastery of it. However to state that we were SOFT before
Deion' arrival is false IMO.

The Defense(s) under Seifert -- and those that followed him as DC -- were far from soft. Deion, was `The Missing Link´ ...
but to suggest he made our "D" other than soft (or HARD), is foolish thinking. I'll give him credit for the skill-set he brought
to the team ... but I don't think it was a physical presence, or toughness that arrived with him, from The ATL.

As it played out (historically), Deion was a Merc; a one year rental, who helped the franchise win it's 5th Lombardi. In reality,
several players from the 1994-1995 roster, were in the same (aforementioned) category as Sanders ... players chasing that
ring. There's a REASON he signed with San Francisco, and no where else ... the team was poised to win !

Beside being good at what he did; shutting down one side of the field, which he did very well ... I also remember a player who
always made sure to self-promote (which was not the 49er way) ... as if his play on the field wasn't speaking LOUD Enough !!!
For the record, I hated him (Football Hate ... not Real Hate), before he arrived; loved his play (before/during his time in SF) and
learned to accept his Showboating Ways, while he wore the Uni. I also went back to Hatin' again, after he left 'da SFC.

Sherman, is Not That Player !!!
He is not That Guy ... the one you tell "Sherm, cover their best receiver ... shadow him all day, tighter than a Crabs A-hole water
proof ... I don't want him movin' the chains, I don't wanna' see any Big Play, and I damn sure don't want to see him in the End Zone".

He only covers one side of the field ... and is not always manned on the opponents best WO !

TBH, I don't see SEA trading him within the division ... and our FO making that trade (if possible):

• weakens the Niners rebuild
• aides in SEA' re-tooling
• helps them contract wise
• we potentially lose a draft pick(s)

Maybe, there is a reason -- beyond his mouth -- why people wouldn't want Richard Sherman (the 2016 version),
on the team for the upcoming season and beyond.

Originally posted by FlayvaMeister:

Bullet Point 1:
To a certain degree, I have to agree with this statement ... probably for different reasons though.
From my POV, most of the Attitude, Identity, and Swagger -- the team once had -- either retired,
joined another another team (via FA), is rehabbing, or is coaching in another city.

I believe our Coach and GM, are more than aware or this ... have a plan in place, and will continue
the Process-in-Progress -- which I feel was initiated upon their hires -- while they continue in this vein
later this month via the draft ... and in future drafts beyond.

Bullet Point 2:
Not to Highjack the Thread ... but seeing as you mentioned:

• soft
• classy
• we were (meaning the 49er Defense ???)
• and Deion Sanders, in the same sentence ... I couldn't help myself

I remember a certain level of decorum, before Deion arrived ... but I also remember:
each and every season, especially seasons the SB was won, before his arrival as well. The `Eddie D´, Camelot
Niners, will always be remembered for the WCO, and their Mastery of it. However to state that we were SOFT before
Deion' arrival is false IMO.

The Defense(s) under Seifert -- and those that followed him as DC -- were far from soft. Deion, was `The Missing Link´ ...
but to suggest he made our "D" other than soft (or HARD), is foolish thinking. I'll give him credit for the skill-set he brought
to the team ... but I don't think it was a physical presence, or toughness that arrived with him, from The ATL.

As it played out (historically), Deion was a Merc; a one year rental, who helped the franchise win it's 5th Lombardi. In reality,
several players from the 1994-1995 roster, were in the same (aforementioned) category as Sanders ... players chasing that
ring. There's a REASON he signed with San Francisco, and no where else ... the team was poised to win !

Beside being good at what he did; shutting down one side of the field, which he did very well ... I also remember a player who
always made sure to self-promote (which was not the 49er way) ... as if his play on the field wasn't speaking LOUD Enough !!!
For the record, I hated him (Football Hate ... not Real Hate), before he arrived; loved his play (before/during his time in SF) and
learned to accept his Showboating Ways, while he wore the Uni. I also went back to Hatin' again, after he left 'da SFC.

Sherman, is Not That Player !!!
He is not That Guy ... the one you tell "Sherm, cover their best receiver ... shadow him all day, tighter than a Crabs A-hole water
proof ... I don't want him movin' the chains, I don't wanna' see any Big Play, and I damn sure don't want to see him in the End Zone".

He only covers one side of the field ... and is not always manned on the opponents best WO !

TBH, I don't see SEA trading him within the division ... and our FO making that trade (if possible):

• weakens the Niners rebuild
• aides in SEA' re-tooling
• helps them contract wise
• we potentially lose a draft pick(s)

Maybe, there is a reason -- beyond his mouth -- why people wouldn't want Richard Sherman (the 2016 version),
on the team for the upcoming season and beyond.

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

I didn't read all of flav's post, but I certainly agree with this post.

Y'all are crazy, I take Sherman. But not at some exuberant cost. And especially if it rewards a division rival.

Originally posted by fropwns:
Y'all are crazy, I take Sherman. But not at some exuberant cost. And especially if it rewards a division rival.

about $11.5m. that's his deal. doubt he'd restructure.

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Y'all are crazy, I take Sherman. But not at some exuberant cost. And especially if it rewards a division rival.

about $11.5m. that's his deal. doubt he'd restructure.

+ giving Seahawks stuff. If it was a 7th and his contract, sure.

But they're wanting a first and a good player. Pass.

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by fropwns:
Y'all are crazy, I take Sherman. But not at some exuberant cost. And especially if it rewards a division rival.

about $11.5m. that's his deal. doubt he'd restructure.

+ giving Seahawks stuff. If it was a 7th and his contract, sure.

But they're wanting a first and a good player. Pass.

a 1st rounder for a player on the downside of his career? ...no thanks , I'll bet if we inquired about a trade , they would ask for our 2nd rounder, and Rashard Robinson, that would be a pretty hefty price to pay

Nah