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Mar 11, 2018 at 8:53 PM
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
The GTD doesn't kick in until the 2019 and 2020 new league years, so that makes it so he can be cut following the 2018 season, and they owe him nothing else. And just have $2M in dead money in 2019. It's very confusing at first.

From NFL.com.

Firstly, only Sherman's 2019 base salary ($8 million) becomes guaranteed if he makes the Pro Bowl this coming season. (There will be no guarantees in 2020 yet.) The guarantee is for injury only and doesn't kick in until the third day of the league year. It doesn't become fully guaranteed until April 1, 2019. In other words, no matter what Sherman does this season, the Niners can cut him without owing him anything before the start of the next league year.

From the way NFL.com's wording, it seems even if injured they can cut him and not owe him a cent. Not all contracts have an injury protection in them. Kind of a loophole so to speak, even though the player/agent would file a grievance, but since Sherman is his own agent, he agreed to this.

So even if the worst-case scenario happens (has a terrible season, still makes the Pro Bowl AND is injured) we can still cut him after 2018 and have only $2M in dead money for 2018 and $0M for 2019?

Where is the $2M mentioned? I'm trying my best to learn this stuff lol.
Mar 11, 2018 at 8:54 PM
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
The GTD doesn't kick in until the 2019 and 2020 new league years, so that makes it so he can be cut following the 2018 season, and they owe him nothing else. And just have $2M in dead money in 2019. It's very confusing at first.

From NFL.com.

Firstly, only Sherman's 2019 base salary ($8 million) becomes guaranteed if he makes the Pro Bowl this coming season. (There will be no guarantees in 2020 yet.) The guarantee is for injury only and doesn't kick in until the third day of the league year. It doesn't become fully guaranteed until April 1, 2019. In other words, no matter what Sherman does this season, the Niners can cut him without owing him anything before the start of the next league year.

From the way NFL.com's wording, it seems even if injured they can cut him and not owe him a cent. Not all contracts have an injury protection in them. Kind of a loophole so to speak, even though the player/agent would file a grievance, but since Sherman is his own agent, he agreed to this.

So even if the worst-case scenario happens (has a terrible season, still makes the Pro Bowl AND is injured) we can still cut him after 2018 and have only $2M in dead money for 2018 and $0M for 2019?

Where is the $2M mentioned? I'm trying my best to learn this stuff lol.

The $2M would be from his $3M bonus(prorates at $1M a yr), so $2M in dead money, but he was already paid that when he signed the contract.
Mar 11, 2018 at 9:00 PM
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
The $2M would be from his $3M bonus(prorates at $1M a yr), so $2M in dead money, but he was already paid that when he signed the contract.

Ah I see.

Sounds like a fantastic deal for us. The only thing I was worried about was the second and third years' base salaries (~$16M) becoming fully guaranteed just because fans of other teams stuffing the Pro Bowl voting. But it sounds like even if they do that, we only have to pay a whopping $1M extra and nothing becomes fully guaranteed.

I think we can thank Paraag for another great contract
Mar 11, 2018 at 9:01 PM
If Sherman gets healthy and plays to his potential, we could see something similar to the effect Deion had on the 1994 team. All of the other DBs seemed to perform better that year.
Mar 11, 2018 at 9:02 PM
Sherman is gonna be motivated AF this year. Good luck to the rest of the NFL
Mar 11, 2018 at 9:04 PM
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Cap Numbers are, $6.175M(2018), $10.05M(2019-2020).

How much cap room do we have right now?

$67,644,954
Does that include the rookie pool?
Mar 11, 2018 at 9:06 PM
As much as I have hated him over the years, he's a Niner now. Just like that the hate is gone.

Welcome aboard.

Niner fans changing teams and Seattle fans hating him (especially since he was cut) is pretty lame IMO.

I rep the name on the front of the jersey.
Mar 11, 2018 at 9:22 PM
Christ...Shermans deal is amazing for the 49ers. $8 million in incentives for this year. In order for him to cash in he has to..

Pass physical and be at training camp
Play in every game
Play 90% of the snaps
Make the Pro Bowl
Make the All Pro

I hope he reaches all objectives. If not...the 49ers are on the hook for little money. Unbelievable! I can't believe he agreed to this. Some desperate team out there like the Lions or GB might have been a bit more generous.
Mar 11, 2018 at 9:26 PM
Originally posted by SisterFister:
Christ...Shermans deal is amazing for the 49ers. $8 million in incentives for this year. In order for him to cash in he has to..

Pass physical and be at training camp
Play in every game
Play 90% of the snaps
Make the Pro Bowl
Make the All Pro

I hope he reaches all objectives. If not...the 49ers are on the hook for little money. Unbelievable! I can't believe he agreed to this. Some desperate team out there like the Lions or GB might have been a bit more generous.

Either Sherman doesn't understand contracts (I doubt it) or he wants to be here, since we were the only team he visited.

That's gotta make some of our fans pretty upset
Mar 11, 2018 at 9:27 PM
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by SisterFister:
Christ...Shermans deal is amazing for the 49ers. $8 million in incentives for this year. In order for him to cash in he has to..

Pass physical and be at training camp
Play in every game
Play 90% of the snaps
Make the Pro Bowl
Make the All Pro

I hope he reaches all objectives. If not...the 49ers are on the hook for little money. Unbelievable! I can't believe he agreed to this. Some desperate team out there like the Lions or GB might have been a bit more generous.

Either Sherman doesn't understand contracts (I doubt it) or he wants to be here, since we were the only team he visited.

That's gotta make some of our fans pretty upset

He clearly wants to stick it to the hawks.
Mar 11, 2018 at 9:27 PM
Peter King currently writing an article on this new deal from Sherman and Lynch's perspectives.
Mar 11, 2018 at 9:44 PM
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Cap Numbers are, $6.175M(2018), $10.05M(2019-2020).

How much cap room do we have right now?

$67,644,954
Does that include the rookie pool?

No, but only a few players will count in offseason, then everyone once season starts, the team would still be the same under the cap once September rolls around(depending on who is signed, for what amount, etc...) A lot of the 90 man roster will be cut, and it's all savings in the end.
Mar 11, 2018 at 9:45 PM
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Just saw that deal on the front page...wow he screwed himself or bet on himself depending on how you look at it.
Mar 11, 2018 at 9:48 PM
Not a huge fan of Sherman of course, but I'll warm up to the guy.

If he goes on Twitter at some point saying that Jimmy G is better than Wilson, he will have won me over for life.
Mar 11, 2018 at 9:51 PM
Originally posted by jcs:
Just saw that deal on the front page...wow he screwed himself or bet on himself depending on how you look at it.

You'd think he could have gotten a better deal elsewhere.

He is also very intelligent from what I have read, but he should have still retained an agent.

I actually respect he is betting on himself. If he earns 90%+ of that contract he be kicking some serious ass for us.
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