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  • fryet
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Originally posted by glorydayz:
This law is almost never enforced.

Also, not sure if you have noticed but it is very hard to keep people in jail these days. As a society we have finally figured out that jail is not the answer to our problems.

For example; Drug possession of any kind (Heroin/meth/crack/powder cocaine) is a misdemeanor in California. The state got smacked by the feds for over crowding its jails and prisons.

So now the state has to actually address the issues instead of using jail as its crutch/solution to societal issues and as you can see the state is failing because there was no thought pass "lock 'em up!". Rehabilitation, what's that? So instead of waisting peoples time and money with jail...

Washington and many other states are also getting smarter by understanding that jail is not a solution but a copout. A copout by state agencies that have multi million/billion dollar budgets to provide public safety.

This is the same logic that has resulted in brazen thefts from stores in San Francisco, as the thief knows at worst they will get a slap on the wrist. In the case of a DUI, if that is treated mildly, you can expect more people to die from people that are DUI. The main point of incarceration isn't rehabilitation, it is punishment - discourage others from doing the same.
  • fryet
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Originally posted by northoakland510:
The fact that the footage was released looks like an angle for the wife to get full custody of the kids and as much money as possible.

Yes, I was wondering how the news got a hold of it. Do we know that the family released it?
Originally posted by fryet:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
This law is almost never enforced.

Also, not sure if you have noticed but it is very hard to keep people in jail these days. As a society we have finally figured out that jail is not the answer to our problems.

For example; Drug possession of any kind (Heroin/meth/crack/powder cocaine) is a misdemeanor in California. The state got smacked by the feds for over crowding its jails and prisons.

So now the state has to actually address the issues instead of using jail as its crutch/solution to societal issues and as you can see the state is failing because there was no thought pass "lock 'em up!". Rehabilitation, what's that? So instead of waisting peoples time and money with jail...

Washington and many other states are also getting smarter by understanding that jail is not a solution but a copout. A copout by state agencies that have multi million/billion dollar budgets to provide public safety.

This is the same logic that has resulted in brazen thefts from stores in San Francisco, as the thief knows at worst they will get a slap on the wrist. In the case of a DUI, if that is treated mildly, you can expect more people to die from people that are DUI. The main point of incarceration isn't rehabilitation, it is punishment - discourage others from doing the same.


If any of this were true, then crime wouldn't exist based on the incarceration rates from the 80's & 90's. Criminals go to jail, and if they aren't rehabilitated they will continue to commit crimes when they are released so why spend money on jails/prisons?

In regards to the main point of incarceration being punishment:

The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/about-cdcr/vision-mission-values/

Vision
We enhance public safety and promote successful community reintegration through education, treatment and active participation in rehabilitative and restorative justice programs.

Mission
To facilitate the successful reintegration of the individuals in our care back to their communities equipped with the tools to be drug-free, healthy, and employable members of society by providing education, treatment, rehabilitative, and restorative justice programs, all in a safe and humane environment.

Punishment?
  • thl408
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Originally posted by fryet:
Originally posted by northoakland510:
The fact that the footage was released looks like an angle for the wife to get full custody of the kids and as much money as possible.

Yes, I was wondering how the news got a hold of it. Do we know that the family released it?

It's looks like a Ring doorbell video footage. I guess the family could have released it to the police and then the police made it public? That sounds worse.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by fryet:
Originally posted by northoakland510:
The fact that the footage was released looks like an angle for the wife to get full custody of the kids and as much money as possible.

Yes, I was wondering how the news got a hold of it. Do we know that the family released it?

It's looks like a Ring doorbell video footage. I guess the family could have released it to the police and then the police made it public? That sounds worse.

Neighbor recently told me people have been hacking into ring cameras. Could be that. Looked like someone watching it on their phone
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Youngone:
https://www.totalprosports.com/2021/07/15/footage-surfaces-of-richard-sherman-trying-to-break-down-father-in-laws-door-before-arrest-video/?fbclid=IwAR1vRaZL_3eamuz8IMddauWtdKl3xofKfJFzEYtq3keL3WlqiTb1TAams8s

Yeesh. Hope this dude gets some help and his family gets some counseling. Pretty f**ked up for in laws to leak this footage, if they did. Don't need to air s**t out on TMZ for some dollars.

That footage looks bad. He's obviously drunk. What are they fighting about?

His 49ers career is over. They only like choir boys.

That footage has confirmed some of my suspicions I've been having about the in-laws since this whole thing aired. The only reason this video was "leaked" is make Richard Sherman look bad. No wander it took him years to marry her, and from the way things have worked out I'm sure he's regretting it.

If I were him I'd lawyer up with the best divorce lawyer and financial advisers my money can buy, go about the business of securing as much of my assets and money as possible, and divorce her a$$ forthwith. The way I see it this leak could be a ploy to clean him out in divorce, so he needs to file BEFORE his wife does.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It sounds like Sherman is really frustrated that he hasn't been signed by anyone and the realization that his career might be over is setting in.

Really? Specifically what about this whole thing that makes you conclude that?
It looks like he is an alcoholic with mental health issues like depression.

Maybe Covid and his employment situation exacerbated it.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
It looks like he is an alcoholic with mental health issues like depression.

Maybe Covid and his employment situation exacerbated it.

speaking from experience, combining a depressant like alcohol with depression = mental health issues become much worse. I feel bad for him. hope he gets help
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
It looks like he is an alcoholic with mental health issues like depression.

Maybe Covid and his employment situation exacerbated it.

I never heard of him being an alcoholic - he might have taken some medication mixed with alcohol.
Originally posted by fryet:
This is the same logic that has resulted in brazen thefts from stores in San Francisco, as the thief knows at worst they will get a slap on the wrist. In the case of a DUI, if that is treated mildly, you can expect more people to die from people that are DUI. The main point of incarceration isn't rehabilitation, it is punishment - discourage others from doing the same.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
It looks like he is an alcoholic with mental health issues like depression.

Maybe Covid and his employment situation exacerbated it.

Making a leap by labeling him an alcoholic
Originally posted by sacniner:
Making a leap by labeling him an alcoholic

Most people that can drink responsibly don't get hammered and crash their cars. It's a huge warning sign.
Originally posted by fryet:
Originally posted by northoakland510:
The fact that the footage was released looks like an angle for the wife to get full custody of the kids and as much money as possible.

Yes, I was wondering how the news got a hold of it. Do we know that the family released it?

There's no other way this could have gotten out but through the in-laws. Like I said in my post above, when this thing first aired I suspected some things about the in-laws, and this video leakage just confirms it. His wife's family put this out there.

Now, I don't know if his wife was in on this. But if she wasn't then shame on her for not being able to keep her family under control, or keep her distance from them if she couldn't. If she was in on this Sherman needs officially retire from football, lawyer up with a team of lawyers, fight for 50-50 custody of his children, and go about the business of putting as much of his assets and money into financial entities out of the reach of child support and alimony as legally possible.
"The mind is a terrible thing":
Eddie Murphy.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Mental health is no joke and even more salient when under the influence. I'm just glad he didn't hurt himself and/or others. The only good thing about this public airing is that he'll most likely be more inclined to get help and knowing him, he'll probably become a mental health advocate which would be huge!
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