Richard Sherman CB

Originally posted by Jason:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

You clearly recognize "white privilege" based on your post, as you stated; "WHEN a person of color gets privilege".

Now just think, if a minority is getting that same privilege. That would be called equality, right?

Woke folks are looking for equality or equity, so there is no need to make a fuss when things are equal.

Unless things are already far more equal than the "woke" want to admit so they can continue to play the victim card. In fact, it seems the way the woke stay fueled up is being in a constant state of anger with everything and denying all progress or case studies that could take that rage away.

Whe you say "they continue to play the victim card" you are referring to the people who are victims of racial discrimination? IE Black People?

Do you think he is a flight risk?

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by random49er:
Watching the video again clearly shows it's a person holding the phone while videotaping it.

Hence watching it on their phone

No,..you said "looked like."

Letting you know there's proof that it's not "looked like,"....not only because it's moving, but because a person's hand is in the middle of the filming. No need to get so defensive,...just encouraging everyone to go watch it again if there is any doubt that it was a live person (recording, not just watching).

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by random49er:
Watching the video again clearly shows it's a person holding the phone while videotaping it.

Hence watching it on their phone

No,..you said "looked like."

Letting you know there's proof that it's not "looked like,"....not only because it's moving, but because a person's hand is in the middle of the filming. No need to get so defensive,...just encouraging everyone to go watch it again if there is any doubt that it was a live person (recording, not just watching).

Lol

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by random49er:
Watching the video again clearly shows it's a person holding the phone while videotaping it.

Hence watching it on their phone

No,..you said "looked like."

Letting you know there's proof that it's not "looked like,"....not only because it's moving, but because a person's hand is in the middle of the filming. No need to get so defensive,...just encouraging everyone to go watch it again if there is any doubt that it was a live person (recording, not just watching).

Lol

Yes,...the post was for everyone. Interesting video to rewatch a couple times.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Not gonna argue (reargue) points from other, unrelated, threads that some people are just too intellectually challenged to actually adequately debate. After all, some people's brains short-circuit when their "f" word (not the cuss word) conditioning is confronted with logic, facts, data, and statistics. But I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't be so presumptuous as to tell other people what I think. Such presumption is the height of arrogance, a notable side effect of the "f" word conditioning.

Now, in terms of "blaming the wife", I "blame" her for not managing things between her birth family and the family her and Richard created. I'm married. In a marriage it is the responsibility of each spouse to keep their individual families in check, or keep a healthy distance. Situations like this occur ONLY when one spouse isn't managing family relationships properly, and it reaches a boiling point like this, or there's an underlying agenda somewhere.

So, if I were advising Richard Sherman I'd tell him to retire from the NFL, hire a team of lawyers, protect his assets as much as legally possible from child support and alimony, and get 50-50 parenting time with his kids.

Richard Sherman needs to cut his losses before this gets worse.

Its incredible the amount of assumptions you're making in this thread and about domestic relations in general.

I am free to give people context to your outrageous assumptions because that helps people understand why you are taking the stances you are taking. Nothing I posted about your views is incorrect, and it's pretty hilarious you're insinuating that I'm intellectually challenged when all you're doing is being lazy and blaming feminism and women when you have no idea what is going on. It's on brand for you though to blame the women, even when they're on 911 calling for help, we have video of Sherman flying off the handle, and we have Sherman's own words and apology, yet you sit here blaming the woman for not doing enough. It's on brand and if you don't like it then perhaps don't make such matter of fact conclusions regarding domestic violence, like you're some expert when you're just a guy who…..could use a little more education on abuse

Originally posted by random49er:
Yes,...the post was for everyone. Interesting video to rewatch a couple times.

Thanks

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Youngone:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Maybe so, but the police did not have to be called. With the relationship between law enforcement and Black men have calling the police on Richard Sherman could have cost him his life. She sided against him with her family. It says a lot to me that he's been with this woman for 10 years, but they married only 3 years ago. I cannot speak for no other community, but in the Black community (for the most part) the police isn't called unless there is a REAL life threatening issue, and this wasn't it.

The father-in-law have been knowing this man for 10 years. The fact that he pulled a gun tells me that there's a large back story to this. From what I've learned, the suburb where they live is quite expensive to live, so I'm sure Richard Sherman paid for that. For the police to be called on him tell me a lot about that family, and his wife.

He should have never married her.

Well you have it all figured out don't you

Lmao, Chicago thinks that education about abuse leads to more women accusing men of rape. It's not surprising he is blaming wife and her family and claiming he should divorce her (even though it seems like Sherman is the one facing the possible divorce).

Not gonna argue (reargue) points from other, unrelated, threads that some people are just too intellectually challenged to actually adequately debate. After all, some people's brains short-circuit when their "f" word (not the cuss word) conditioning is confronted with logic, facts, data, and statistics. But I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't be so presumptuous as to tell other people what I think. Such presumption is the height of arrogance, a notable side effect of the "f" word conditioning.

Now, in terms of "blaming the wife", I "blame" her for not managing things between her birth family and the family her and Richard created. I'm married. In a marriage it is the responsibility of each spouse to keep their individual families in check, or keep a healthy distance. Situations like this occur ONLY when one spouse isn't managing family relationships properly, and it reaches a boiling point like this, or there's an underlying agenda somewhere.

So, if I were advising Richard Sherman I'd tell him to retire from the NFL, hire a team of lawyers, protect his assets as much as legally possible from child support and alimony, and get 50-50 parenting time with his kids.

Richard Sherman needs to cut his losses before this gets worse.

You're married? I'm engaged, but we've been together going on 5 years now. I pray that neither of us ever in a situation where we are genuinely concerned that the person we love is going to hurt themselves, where they are clearly not in their right mind and at risk of acting unpredictably, and are panicked and have to make a judgement call.

You talk as though you know exactly what it was the caused Sherman's aggressive behavior, and that you understand at a deep level what his wife's emotions and motivations were in that moment. The truth is you don't know anything about any of that. You have implicit bias that you are using to frame the sequence of events within a narrative that you've already decided is the truth. Thank god you aren't in engineering, where that line of thinking and problem solving would get you fired.

We only know what we have direct evidence of, and anything else, all of the "color" or "I bet his wife really wanted to XYZ" or any of that s**t is just flat out speculation. Further, if Sherman is really suffering from a mental health crisis, it's not only in accurate, it's hurtful and actually makes it HARDER for not just Richard Sherman himself to try to get better and return to some semblance of a normal life, but it's dismissive of a person undergoing real trauma, and that is something that is hurtful to other people who may be dealing with mental health issues of their own and watching Richard Sherman go through a very public incident that has the potential to ruin his life.

in short, just be a better human and have some f**king self awareness to know that your opinion is based on a lot of speculation and assumption.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It sounds like Sherman is really frustrated that he hasn't been signed by anyone and the realization that his career might be over is setting in.

Really? Specifically what about this whole thing that makes you conclude that?

Getting drunk and acting the way he did indicates a very unhappy and unstable person. I've heard that he still wants to play but teams aren't rushing to sign him. Players react differently when they see the writing on the wall and realize that their career might be over. Some can accept it but others have a hard time adjusting. I don't know for sure what his state of mind is but this scenario is certainly a possibility.

All of that sounds good. But you didn't say what it was I speculated about.

Yes I did. You highlighted the part about being frustrated about not being signed. I'm guessing he is since he wants to play. Frustration and seeing the end can come crashing down on some people. Some might turn to alcohol and other sto drugs. This is all speculation since none of us knows what set him off.

No, you didn't. I want to know specifically wat I speculated about. You advanced you thinking on this, thinking that I, taken alone, don't necessarily disagree with. The only way I can address the speculation is for you to show specifically where I speculated.

Now, in terms of "Frustration and seeing the end . . .", again, taken alone I don't disagree with that. However, I see no evidence that that is the case in this situation. You're drawing inference about a situation involving a man who's shown the world nothing that would indicate he's negatively reacting to the coming end of his playing career. Even after this Richard has a great opportunity in TV commentating. After all, he is great in front of the camera. Correct me if I'm wrong but the man does have a communication degree from Stanford no less. And I find it hard to believe that he doesn't have offers on the table from TV networks that will pay handsomely for his football analysis, even after this (see Michael Irvin, et al).

So this narrative that Richard Sherman just lost it because he's seeing the end of his playing career is just silly to me. So you'll need to be more convincing and come with some evidence, and not regurgitated platitudes.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Youngone:
Lmao, Chicago thinks that education about abuse leads to more women accusing men of rape. It's not surprising he is blaming wife and her family and claiming he should divorce her (even though it seems like Sherman is the one facing the possible divorce).

Sherman seems to have no ill will towards his family and seems quite remorseful so not sure why he's so angry at these people he doesn't even know lol. Bad look disparaging the wife and family without knowing the details, especially in light of what has come out imo

Agreed. He should be embarrassed and ashamed for jumping to that conclusion. It indicates some deep-seated issues with logical thinking and reading comprehension.

Originally posted by Jason:

Originally posted by glorydayz:


Stay Woke...

SMH

- 40 acres and a mule

Man, being woke is the last thing I want to be given it's current definition. SMH

Stay closeminded instead. Convince yourself over and over that others get so many more breaks from the justice system than you have, or are able to. It just feels so much better to place targets on the backs of others, doesn't it?

Originally posted by Youngone:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Maybe so, but the police did not have to be called. With the relationship between law enforcement and Black men have calling the police on Richard Sherman could have cost him his life. She sided against him with her family. It says a lot to me that he's been with this woman for 10 years, but they married only 3 years ago. I cannot speak for no other community, but in the Black community (for the most part) the police isn't called unless there is a REAL life threatening issue, and this wasn't it.

The father-in-law have been knowing this man for 10 years. The fact that he pulled a gun tells me that there's a large back story to this. From what I've learned, the suburb where they live is quite expensive to live, so I'm sure Richard Sherman paid for that. For the police to be called on him tell me a lot about that family, and his wife.

He should have never married her.

Well you have it all figured out don't you

Lmao, Chicago thinks that education about abuse leads to more women accusing men of rape. It's not surprising he is blaming wife and her family and claiming he should divorce her (even though it seems like Sherman is the one facing the possible divorce).

Well,..they didn't have to release the recorded video. He's obviously had prior episodes with "something" according to old records that as of now are sealed.

But if everything was just fine aside from 1 errant nite, the wife would've begged and pleaded for that recording to have not been put out there.

It's not all a happy story obviously if you just connect the dots. Something's brewing within the family obviously,...but it's his personal life.

Originally posted by random49er:
Well,..they didn't have to release the recorded video. He's obviously had prior episodes with "something" according to old records that as of now are sealed.

But if everything was just fine aside from 1 errant nite, the wife would've begged and pleaded for that recording to have not been put out there.

It's not all a happy story obviously if you just connect the dots. Something's brewing within the family obviously,...but it's his personal life.

I was the first person to post the video in this thread and I actually said it was messed up of whoever sold that video to TMZ and that the whole family needed counseling. I take issue with b******t hot takes here that blame the wife for the situation or people talking s**t on Sherman like he's some scumbag, mental health issues are real. Doesn't matter if you're wealthy, people still suffer. Whole family needs some counseling not just Sherman, and blaming the wife is just stupid, lazy and reeks of misogyny.

Originally posted by Youngone:

Originally posted by random49er:
Well,..they didn't have to release the recorded video. He's obviously had prior episodes with "something" according to old records that as of now are sealed.

But if everything was just fine aside from 1 errant nite, the wife would've begged and pleaded for that recording to have not been put out there.

It's not all a happy story obviously if you just connect the dots. Something's brewing within the family obviously,...but it's his personal life.

I was the first person to post the video in this thread and I actually said it was messed up of whoever sold that video to TMZ and that the whole family needed counseling. I take issue with b******t hot takes here that blame the wife for the situation or people talking s**t on Sherman like he's some scumbag, mental health issues are real. Doesn't matter if you're wealthy, people still suffer. Whole family needs some counseling not just Sherman, and blaming the wife is just stupid, lazy and reeks of misogyny.

+1

Originally posted by Youngone:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Not gonna argue (reargue) points from other, unrelated, threads that some people are just too intellectually challenged to actually adequately debate. After all, some people's brains short-circuit when their "f" word (not the cuss word) conditioning is confronted with logic, facts, data, and statistics. But I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't be so presumptuous as to tell other people what I think. Such presumption is the height of arrogance, a notable side effect of the "f" word conditioning.

Now, in terms of "blaming the wife", I "blame" her for not managing things between her birth family and the family her and Richard created. I'm married. In a marriage it is the responsibility of each spouse to keep their individual families in check, or keep a healthy distance. Situations like this occur ONLY when one spouse isn't managing family relationships properly, and it reaches a boiling point like this, or there's an underlying agenda somewhere.

So, if I were advising Richard Sherman I'd tell him to retire from the NFL, hire a team of lawyers, protect his assets as much as legally possible from child support and alimony, and get 50-50 parenting time with his kids.

Richard Sherman needs to cut his losses before this gets worse.

Its incredible the amount of assumptions you're making in this thread and about domestic relations in general.

I am free to give people context to your outrageous assumptions because that helps people understand why you are taking the stances you are taking. Nothing I posted about your views is incorrect, and it's pretty hilarious you're insinuating that I'm intellectually challenged when all you're doing is being lazy and blaming feminism and women when you have no idea what is going on. It's on brand for you though to blame the women, even when they're on 911 calling for help, we have video of Sherman flying off the handle, and we have Sherman's own words and apology, yet you sit here blaming the woman for not doing enough. It's on brand and if you don't like it then perhaps don't make such matter of fact conclusions regarding domestic violence, like you're some expert when you're just a guy who…..could use a little more education on abuse

Its incredible the amount of assumptions you're making in this thread and about domestic relations in general.

I would be nice for you to deal with only what I say and not run with the byproduct of of your interpretation of what I say.

I am free to give people context to your outrageous assumptions because that helps people understand why you are taking the stances you are taking.

Alas, the height of arrogance. To think that one has the gravitas to give other people "context" to another's words when the subject person is present for clarity is conceit personified. But then, this is America. We're all free to be a$$holes if we so choose.

Nothing I posted about your views is incorrect, and it's pretty hilarious you're insinuating that I'm intellectually challenged when all you're doing is being lazy and blaming feminism and women when you have no idea what is going on.

Clearly you are arguing something that has nothing to do with this Richard Sherman situation.

It's on brand for you though to blame the women, even when they're on 911 calling for help, we have video of Sherman flying off the handle, and we have Sherman's own words and apology, yet you sit here blaming the woman for not doing enough.

"Blaming the woman"! Now that's interesting language, especially when I said I blame the wife. (I know, that may confound you.)

It's on brand and if you don't like it then perhaps don't make such matter of fact conclusions regarding domestic violence, like you're some expert when you're just a guy who…..could use a little more education on abuse

"matter of fact conclusion regarding domestic violence" – please quote me so I can adequately defend myself. And please make sure it's on this topic so that the context don't get lost. And I truly wish you knew my education and expertise. I'm sure you'd benefit from being a loyal client of mines.

Email me for sessions.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Youngone:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Not gonna argue (reargue) points from other, unrelated, threads that some people are just too intellectually challenged to actually adequately debate. After all, some people's brains short-circuit when their "f" word (not the cuss word) conditioning is confronted with logic, facts, data, and statistics. But I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't be so presumptuous as to tell other people what I think. Such presumption is the height of arrogance, a notable side effect of the "f" word conditioning.

Now, in terms of "blaming the wife", I "blame" her for not managing things between her birth family and the family her and Richard created. I'm married. In a marriage it is the responsibility of each spouse to keep their individual families in check, or keep a healthy distance. Situations like this occur ONLY when one spouse isn't managing family relationships properly, and it reaches a boiling point like this, or there's an underlying agenda somewhere.

So, if I were advising Richard Sherman I'd tell him to retire from the NFL, hire a team of lawyers, protect his assets as much as legally possible from child support and alimony, and get 50-50 parenting time with his kids.

Richard Sherman needs to cut his losses before this gets worse.

Its incredible the amount of assumptions you're making in this thread and about domestic relations in general.

I am free to give people context to your outrageous assumptions because that helps people understand why you are taking the stances you are taking. Nothing I posted about your views is incorrect, and it's pretty hilarious you're insinuating that I'm intellectually challenged when all you're doing is being lazy and blaming feminism and women when you have no idea what is going on. It's on brand for you though to blame the women, even when they're on 911 calling for help, we have video of Sherman flying off the handle, and we have Sherman's own words and apology, yet you sit here blaming the woman for not doing enough. It's on brand and if you don't like it then perhaps don't make such matter of fact conclusions regarding domestic violence, like you're some expert when you're just a guy who…..could use a little more education on abuse

Its incredible the amount of assumptions you're making in this thread and about domestic relations in general.

I would be nice for you to deal with only what I say and not run with the byproduct of of your interpretation of what I say.

I am free to give people context to your outrageous assumptions because that helps people understand why you are taking the stances you are taking.

Alas, the height of arrogance. To think that one has the gravitas to give other people "context" to another's words when the subject person is present for clarity is conceit personified. But then, this is America. We're all free to be a$$holes if we so choose.

Nothing I posted about your views is incorrect, and it's pretty hilarious you're insinuating that I'm intellectually challenged when all you're doing is being lazy and blaming feminism and women when you have no idea what is going on.

Clearly you are arguing something that has nothing to do with this Richard Sherman situation.

It's on brand for you though to blame the women, even when they're on 911 calling for help, we have video of Sherman flying off the handle, and we have Sherman's own words and apology, yet you sit here blaming the woman for not doing enough.

"Blaming the woman"! Now that's interesting language, especially when I said I blame the wife. (I know, that may confound you.)

It's on brand and if you don't like it then perhaps don't make such matter of fact conclusions regarding domestic violence, like you're some expert when you're just a guy who…..could use a little more education on abuse

"matter of fact conclusion regarding domestic violence" – please quote me so I can adequately defend myself. And please make sure it's on this topic so that the context don't get lost. And I truly wish you knew my education and expertise. I'm sure you'd benefit from being a loyal client of mines.

Email me for sessions.

Why blame the wife at all? Instead of the person who is clearly unwell, who is seen on video attempting to break down a door, and shouting beligerently at his wife's family? You can feign ignorance and hide behind the technicalities of your wording all you want, but there's more evidence that this is a Richard Sherman problem then there is evidence that this has anything to do with his wife / wife's family.