Former NY Jets HC Robert Saleh

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

That stat is based off 700 snaps and a dislocated shoulder for 400 of them.

I'll take 4.5 sacks with less than a yrs worth of snaps for a 3-4 DE who's been injured and basically a rookie

Except he's not a rookie but a 3rd year vet next season. Get over the excuses he's been unproductive and has had difficulties getting snaps both from injury and a lack of skill.

Blah blah blah players get hurt and he did...go to the AA tread if your gonna blast off about him in every thread. K thanks

Originally posted by Dakes44:

In their defense, hes about as productive as he was in college, or lack there of; an underproducing DL. Drafting with the draft and develop tag can go both ways, which they seem to forget. I wont say he is an absolute bust but hes been a severe disappointment thus far regardless of injury for where he was drafted and ahead of players like Malcom Brown, Eddie Goldman, and Marcus Peters. He may have been unstoppable in TC but this was going against the 2-14 offense.

He was also healthy in training camp, even joe Staley was raving about him....and he was the one that brought it up.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Hmm...I guess some people blamed Justin Smith for the SB loss as he was playing with one arm and didn't do much. Really, AA playing with one arm was really at a disadvantage...and Justin was a once in a lifetime player who did OK even with one arm...just not his dominating self. Even with one arm I noticed how often AA was double and triple teamed. I don't think PFF has that locked down.

I don't agree with this and I could go on a rant why triple teaming him is erroneous with a true NT and Buck on the other side getting more of the attention.

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
Guys with us switching to a 4-3/3-4 Seattle type defense I'd say Ohio St. safety Malik Hooker is in play at #2 overall. He's a Earl Thomas clone with more size. These type of safety's are very hard to find and take your defense from good to great. This guy ranges from sideline to sideline in coverage but has the ball skills of a wide receiver.

He fits, and its a deep secondary class overall. Definitely need a ball-hawking safety for this scheme.

Evaluating the roster, I think the secondary in general is the area we need the least amount of help. There are no elite players currently on the roster, but a number of good ones. At corner Rashard Robinson could be a special player, especially in a press-bail scheme.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Blah blah blah players get hurt and he did...go to the AA tread if your gonna blast off about him in every thread. K thanks

AA being talked about in the DC thread deserves to get a counter point as opposed to his fanboys.

Ohhhhhh dropped a "fanboy" on yo ass! I'm more of a fanman.

Originally posted by SofaKing:
He fits, and its a deep secondary class overall. Definitely need a ball-hawking safety for this scheme.

Evaluating the roster, I think the secondary in general is the area we need the least amount of help. There are no elite players currently on the roster, but a number of good ones. At corner Rashard Robinson could be a special player, especially in a press-bail scheme.

I agree, we have so many holes that selecting a DB, 3-4 DE, or OT at #2 seems like a waste.

Originally posted by thl408:
Ohhhhhh dropped a "fanboy" on yo ass! I'm more of a fanman.

Clear gender bias as well, I'm sure there are fangirls and fanfemales out there as well. Also can't discount the LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ community.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Blah blah blah players get hurt and he did...go to the AA tread if your gonna blast off about him in every thread. K thanks

AA being talked about in the DC thread deserves to get a counter point as opposed to his fanboys.

Oh you do you fair share of counter pts about him in multiple threads...we get it, we know how you feel about him.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
I agree, we have so many holes that selecting a DB, 3-4 DE, or OT at #2 seems like a waste.

Yup, we need the all the good players we can get, but we REALLY need a QB, pass rushers, offensive playmakers, and more speed at linebacker.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

He was also healthy in training camp, even joe Staley was raving about him....and he was the one that brought it up.

I get that, I really do. I just dont buy it in its entirety. He maybe that physical and athletic specimen which we all know he was coming out. But his brain doesnt match the body. I go back to that gif of 1and10 just outside the 49ers redzone vs Dallas, he took himself out of the play in a split second because of not playing technique and situational football, Zeke bust a 20 yard run to the goal line. I get that hes raw and still learning, but in all honesty a high schooler knows those situations; its no exuse for a professional to not know.

Now my friend who played against him in HS and College says this dude is a loaf and only got by because his size and athleticism. Time will tell if this is true or not.

Originally posted by thl408:

Ohhhhhh dropped a "fanboy" on yo ass! I'm more of a fanman.

Hahaha I know who cares if I have AA bed sheets and multiple fatheads of him all over my house

Fanboy lol please

Originally posted by Dakes44:
I get that, I really do. I just dont buy it in its entirety. He maybe that physical and athletic specimen which we all know he was coming out. But his brain doesnt match the body. I go back to that gif of 1and10 just outside the 49ers redzone vs Dallas, he took himself out of the play in a split second because of not playing technique and situational football, Zeke bust a 20 yard run to the goal line. I get that hes raw and still learning, but in all honesty a high schooler knows those situations; its no exuse for a professional to not know.

Now my friend who played against him in HS and College says this dude is a loaf and only got by because his size and athleticism. Time will tell if this is true or not.

Good points, I agree. For these reasons, I think the new style defense will benefit AA. Remember, Lynch said we don't want to be a read-and-react defense, we want to be a attack style defense. This definitely relates to how the d-line will play. Less 2 gapping and more 1 gapping. Less reading, the assignment is determined pre-snap and they just have to shoot their gap.

I think AA will benefit a lot, because as you mentioned, he struggles reading and reacting. But in a scheme that simplifies things for him and lets his athletic traits take over, he could do very well.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
I agree, we have so many holes that selecting a DB, 3-4 DE, or OT at #2 seems like a waste.

Yup, we need the all the good players we can get, but we REALLY need a QB, pass rushers, offensive playmakers, and more speed at linebacker.

I'm going into this draft taking the best players to upgrade this roster not what's going to make us better next year but in the future. I'm not taking a less talented player because we have a bigger hole some where else. Drafting Mitch Trubisky at #2 over Malik Hooker would be the new regimes first big mistake. This roster needs big talent not high risk picks. There isn't 1 wide receiver in this draft worthy of the #2 pick.

Originally posted by Dakes44:

I get that, I really do. I just dont buy it in its entirety. He maybe that physical and athletic specimen which we all know he was coming out. But his brain doesnt match the body. I go back to that gif of 1and10 just outside the 49ers redzone vs Dallas, he took himself out of the play in a split second because of not playing technique and situational football, Zeke bust a 20 yard run to the goal line. I get that hes raw and still learning, but in all honesty a high schooler knows those situations; its no exuse for a professional to not know.

Now my friend who played against him in HS and College says this dude is a loaf and only got by because his size and athleticism. Time will tell if this is true or not.

How about we give him a full season before figuring out if he's in the plans or not? It's not like he's costing us some crazy contract and everyone knew he was raw coming out of college with only 1 yr fully committed to college.