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WR Marquise "Flash" Goodwin (traded to PHI)

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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
I know I'm wearing my red & gold glasses here, but I think having these super fast guys playing in cold weather cities can hurt their production. Putting a guy like Goodwin in a dome or here in sunny California could be great for him.

Imagine getting warmed up, only to cool down and try to get warmed up again. This would have to affect muscles, ligaments, and tendons.

No excuses just a hunch as I look at this with these incredible glasses of mine

No you're right... hands down. I think the same thing about QBs playing in the cold.

alright lets sign cutler
Originally posted by KayFabe:
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Originally posted by pahlerbj:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by WeeRocco:
Marquise Goodwin
@flashg88dwin
Idk the guys tag, [Reshard Robinson, CB for 49er] #TruthBeTold you can't cover me, & couldn't all game. Don't boost cause there's film...

Rashard Robinson
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@flashg88dwin see you in ota's my G


Love it

Oh man, our fastest receiver calling out our best cornerback in competition already? I love it!

Iron sharpens iron!

This. Love it already
Seconded.

Need more of this, some fire on this damn team.

Lol not fair, Robinson was following O'Neal playbook
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Watched all his targets from 2016 and besides realizing how bad of a thrower Tyrod Taylor is, I saw Goodwin surprisingly have good success on Curls/Outs, and little success on vertical routes. His 2016 Catch Rate of 43% (Catches / Targets) is not really indicative of his route running, but more about Taylor's inaccuracy on short throws. Many times Goodwin ran Stop9/Curl/Comebacks and got adequate separation, only to have Taylor fail to execute by being inaccurate or late on timing. A QB has to be in his throwing motion just as the WR is entering the break so that the moment the WR is turned around, the pass is midway to its target. Tyrod Taylor is not good at this.

That Goodwin wins a lot on Curls could be because CBs are overplaying his speed and ability to get vertical. Shanahan likes running these types of routes, on the outside, so I think I have an idea how Goodwin will be used with the 49ers. Goodwin's catch radius is small and I was surprised how little separation he got trying to go deep. So while his speed suggests he is a downfield threat, he would require pinpoint throws on those deepballs. He caught two bombs in 2016 (vs Revis and BMaxwell), but they were largely due to the defender napping on their deep zone assignment - both Revis and Maxwell were playing deep 1/3 when Goodwin caught the two long TDs. I'll eventually show with film what I mean.
Originally posted by thl408:
Watched all his targets from 2016 and besides realizing how bad of a thrower Tyrod Taylor is, I saw Goodwin surprisingly have good success on Curls/Outs, and little success on vertical routes. His 2016 Catch Rate of 43% (Catches / Targets) is not really indicative of his route running, but more about Taylor's inaccuracy on short throws. Many times Goodwin ran Stop9/Curl/Comebacks and got adequate separation, only to have Taylor fail to execute by being inaccurate or late on timing. A QB has to be in his throwing motion just as the WR is entering the break so that the moment the WR is turned around, the pass is midway to its target. Tyrod Taylor is not good at this.

That Goodwin wins a lot on Curls could be because CBs are overplaying his speed and ability to get vertical. Shanahan likes running these types of routes, on the outside, so I think I have an idea how Goodwin will be used with the 49ers. Goodwin's catch radius is small and I was surprised how little separation he got trying to go deep. So while his speed suggests he is a downfield threat, he would require pinpoint throws on those deepballs. He caught two bombs in 2016 (vs Revis and BMaxwell), but they were largely due to the defender napping on their deep zone assignment - both Revis and Maxwell were playing deep 1/3 when Goodwin caught the two long TDs. I'll eventually show with film what I mean.

This is awesome. Thank to so much for the review and breakdown...really helps set the stage for us.
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He claims he's "faster" than anyone in the draft, even faster the Ross. I believe it!

If he and Ross raced each other, MG would win, Ross would pull another hammy or something before they reached the finish line.
[ Edited by LVJay on Mar 14, 2017 at 5:33 PM ]
Originally posted by thl408:
Watched all his targets from 2016 and besides realizing how bad of a thrower Tyrod Taylor is, I saw Goodwin surprisingly have good success on Curls/Outs, and little success on vertical routes. His 2016 Catch Rate of 43% (Catches / Targets) is not really indicative of his route running, but more about Taylor's inaccuracy on short throws. Many times Goodwin ran Stop9/Curl/Comebacks and got adequate separation, only to have Taylor fail to execute by being inaccurate or late on timing. A QB has to be in his throwing motion just as the WR is entering the break so that the moment the WR is turned around, the pass is midway to its target. Tyrod Taylor is not good at this.

That Goodwin wins a lot on Curls could be because CBs are overplaying his speed and ability to get vertical. Shanahan likes running these types of routes, on the outside, so I think I have an idea how Goodwin will be used with the 49ers. Goodwin's catch radius is small and I was surprised how little separation he got trying to go deep. So while his speed suggests he is a downfield threat, he would require pinpoint throws on those deepballs. He caught two bombs in 2016 (vs Revis and BMaxwell), but they were largely due to the defender napping on their deep zone assignment - both Revis and Maxwell were playing deep 1/3 when Goodwin caught the two long TDs. I'll eventually show with film what I mean.

Thanks great info
Originally posted by JustinNiner:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
I know I'm wearing my red & gold glasses here, but I think having these super fast guys playing in cold weather cities can hurt their production. Putting a guy like Goodwin in a dome or here in sunny California could be great for him.

Imagine getting warmed up, only to cool down and try to get warmed up again. This would have to affect muscles, ligaments, and tendons.

No excuses just a hunch as I look at this with these incredible glasses of mine

No you're right... hands down. I think the same thing about QBs playing in the cold.

alright lets sign cutler

We signed Hoyer& Barky lol. Analytics say they were great tire kickers.
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
I know I'm wearing my red & gold glasses here, but I think having these super fast guys playing in cold weather cities can hurt their production. Putting a guy like Goodwin in a dome or here in sunny California could be great for him.

Imagine getting warmed up, only to cool down and try to get warmed up again. This would have to affect muscles, ligaments, and tendons.

No excuses just a hunch as I look at this with these incredible glasses of mine

No you're right... hands down. I think the same thing about QBs playing in the cold.
I thought Brandin Cooks was going to be much better in New Orleans, on the turf, with Drew Brees and Sean Payton. But he wasn't
What if he blows up in the cold weather of New England?
[ Edited by Ronnie49Lott on Mar 14, 2017 at 10:34 PM ]
Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
I know I'm wearing my red & gold glasses here, but I think having these super fast guys playing in cold weather cities can hurt their production. Putting a guy like Goodwin in a dome or here in sunny California could be great for him.

Imagine getting warmed up, only to cool down and try to get warmed up again. This would have to affect muscles, ligaments, and tendons.

No excuses just a hunch as I look at this with these incredible glasses of mine

No you're right... hands down. I think the same thing about QBs playing in the cold.
I thought Brandin Cooks was going to be much better in New Orleans, on the turf, with Drew Brees and Sean Payton. But he wasn't
What if he blows up in the cold weather of New England?

Had a career high last year in yards and almost has 2900 yards and 20 TDs so far in his 3 year career. Not a bad average. He could blow up with the rest of the weapons and QB play there. I wouldn't be suprised. I was just kinda mentioning some guys and things can be easier in warmer weather. For the body,and for the game of football.
[ Edited by SmokeCrabtrees on Mar 15, 2017 at 12:05 AM ]
Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
I know I'm wearing my red & gold glasses here, but I think having these super fast guys playing in cold weather cities can hurt their production. Putting a guy like Goodwin in a dome or here in sunny California could be great for him.

Imagine getting warmed up, only to cool down and try to get warmed up again. This would have to affect muscles, ligaments, and tendons.

No excuses just a hunch as I look at this with these incredible glasses of mine

No you're right... hands down. I think the same thing about QBs playing in the cold.
I thought Brandin Cooks was going to be much better in New Orleans, on the turf, with Drew Brees and Sean Payton. But he wasn't
What if he blows up in the cold weather of New England?

I think he's already a star WR. He's had 1100+ yards and 8+ TDs in back to back seasons. He had 550 yards as a rookie in 10 games before getting hurt.
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http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/181749-offseason-all22-film-study/page52/
Originally posted by LVJay:
He claims he's "faster" than anyone in the draft, even faster the Ross. I believe it!

If he and Ross raced each other, MG would win, Ross would pull another hammy or something before they reached the finish line.

Fast like 911 in white neighborhoods
Originally posted by thl408:
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/181749-offseason-all22-film-study/page52/

If you all haven't seen this yet, you should check it out. Great work...
Originally posted by robniner:
I'm reading on the free agent thread that Cordarrelle Patterson would have been a better signing than Goodwin.

He provides no help at receiver. I don't see it.
I think Goodwin will surprise and be a nice weapon for us on offense.
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