WR Marquise "Flash" Goodwin (traded to PHI)

Originally posted by elguapo:
Not many teams would give up more than a sixth round pick for him and I'm OK with that because most likely we're just going to release him. I don't see the team keeping him over the other receivers we have coming back and that's not counting any additional receivers we may get in the draft.

i have more faith in bourne. james hurd and taylor to make a positive impact on our team than i do with goodwin and pettis

I don't get, he takes pictures with Tigers but can't got into the Lion's den which is the field.

Originally posted by elguapo:
Not many teams would give up more than a sixth round pick for him and I'm OK with that because most likely we're just going to release him. I don't see the team keeping him over the other receivers we have coming back and that's not counting any additional receivers we may get in the draft.

a 6th to unload his contract would be great news for us, if possible.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

One name that has been discussed in trade talks: #49ers speedy WR Marquise Goodwin. The deep threat is due roughly $10M over two years, so his contract can be traded. Meanwhile, SF's young core of WRs is emerging.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 6, 2020

I'll take anything we can get. Better than getting nothing in return and releasing him. With a class this stacked at WR, we could add a guy like Tyler Johnson, Van Jefferson, or even Darnell Mooney in the mid to late rounds as another speedster in the rotation.

I'm afraid we may wind up eating this one. With such a deep pool of WR's coming out this draft I don't think teams will be giving up that much.

If Goodwin was a reliable starter we would be looking at this different but he's not. He can't stay healthy which is often the case with really fast guys. Lot's of muscle pulls and they aren't built for a lot of contact. He only catches around 50% of his targets and he's a situational player on this team. You can't pay a lot for less than 2 receptions per game. The question is who will be willing to take him.

His contract is actually pretty low for a 29 year old with speed. Team acquiring him would have two years of control.

Sanu went for a 2nd. He's 30 (older) and has $14 million owed on the last 2 years of his contract (more $$ than Goodwin).

Sanders (older, better, but a half year rental) plus a 5th went for a 3rd and a 4th.

Yes, this is a deep WR class. But rookies can take time to develop and few have Godwin's speed. I'm guessing Goodwin goes for a 4th or 5th.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:
I want to keep Goodwin now that his wife and he have finally, successfully had a healthy baby. I think his head will be back in the right place. I want him as the third option behind Sanders and Deebo. But alas, Kyle just got done saying, "He can play in this league." which is like getting a kiss from the godfather.

bourne took that spot, not to be harsh. but way to many excuses for goodwin here

I don't trust Bourne worth a dam. Bourne took that spot by virtue of no other options while Goodwin was injured. Big deal.

Not sure how you can trust Goodwin either . They both drop passes and Goodwin is often injured.

I'd be happy with a 4th or 5th rounder for Goodwin.

I'm fine with Goodwin gone if you get me a fast WR to take his place. That means our #1 in the draft, FA for IOL help, and kiss off any impactful secondary guys. Or a trade down in the draft and a 2nd for a WR and a 3rd for our secondary.

Either way I want someone fast, someone to stretch the field consistently. Sanders showed he can beat guys deep against New Orleans and KC, but I'd rather use him as a surprise deep weapon.

And the bloody guy better be able to catch the oblong spheroid. I've seen far too many highly touted guys over the years with burner speed who turned out to have stones for hands. That's why I'd think our #1 is in order.

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:
I want to keep Goodwin now that his wife and he have finally, successfully had a healthy baby. I think his head will be back in the right place. I want him as the third option behind Sanders and Deebo. But alas, Kyle just got done saying, "He can play in this league." which is like getting a kiss from the godfather.

bourne took that spot, not to be harsh. but way to many excuses for goodwin here

I don't trust Bourne worth a dam. Bourne took that spot by virtue of no other options while Goodwin was injured. Big deal.

Not sure how you can trust Goodwin either . They both drop passes and Goodwin is often injured.

I'd be happy with a 4th or 5th rounder for Goodwin.

I'm fine with Goodwin gone if you get me a fast WR to take his place. That means our #1 in the draft, FA for IOL help, and kiss off any impactful secondary guys. Or a trade down in the draft and a 2nd for a WR and a 3rd for our secondary.

Either way I want someone fast, someone to stretch the field consistently. Sanders showed he can beat guys deep against New Orleans and KC, but I'd rather use him as a surprise deep weapon.

And the bloody guy better be able to catch the oblong spheroid. I've seen far too many highly touted guys over the years with burner speed who turned out to have stones for hands. That's why I'd think our #1 is in order.

What's the point of having a fast WR when we don't have a QB who can throw deep accurately on a consistent basis.

Interesting to see the positive things about Goodwin posted now that fans desire any semblance of a return.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Interesting to see the positive things about Goodwin posted now that fans desire any semblance of a return.

I mean he's a plus route-runner with elite speed and on a cheap deal.... He is always hurt and has butterfingers.

I got no idea what that's worth to 31 other teams

No one will give us a 4th for him. you can draft a bunch of guys who are quick. please

Originally posted by cciowa:

No one will give us a 4th for him. you can draft a bunch of guys who are quick. please

Not straight up. But you might be able to package him with one of our 5th round picks to land that 4th round pick.

Originally posted by cciowa:

No one will give us a 4th for him. you can draft a bunch of guys who are quick. please

Who knows probably not BUT he's not quick, he's literally one or if not the fastest guys in the NFL.

You're not getting anyone close to that fast on day 3 of the draft.

Someone who's got a crap ton of comp picks might be interested.

Over 1000 yds. in 2017 before he got hurt. With Jimmy G., 99, 106, 124 (10 of it rushing), 37, 38.

Yeah just bad mouth the guy and try to trade him for a 5th. Cuz we're loaded with 1000 yd. receivers on our team - Bourne, Hurd, Taylor, Pettis.

You guys are all way to turned on by speed. Look up the top 10 fastest receivers ever and see how bad their careers were. I'm not saying that some speed is important but sub 4.3 is not necessary and in fact doesn't translate to great numbers. The sweet spot seems to be in the 4.4-4.5 range which is still fast. The idea that you're going to line up and run past a defender is a fantasy unless the defender is old and slow. Corners often have just as much speed as receivers if not more. I'll take a guy with decent size , good but not blazing speed that knows how to run routes. They get open more often. Truth is, most QBs can't throw the ball deep enough to really use all that speed. Either that or they don't have the time.