WR Marquise "Flash" Goodwin (traded to PHI)

Originally posted by mayo49:

I just like Goodwin's overall game over Sanders - who's lost his speed because of his torn Achilles.

Goodwin has no game lol. I can see us letting Sanders go but not because Goodwin is better

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I just like Goodwin's overall game over Sanders - who's lost his speed because of his torn Achilles.

Goodwin has no game lol. I can see us letting Sanders go but not because Goodwin is better

He might not be a great route runner, but his speed will keep him on the team.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Defenses have to respect any receiver that runs a deep pattern. Whether he runs a 4.2 or 4.5 the back or backs still need to cover him. Good receivers often get double coverage no matter how fast they are. The real issue here is not how fast our receivers are because even when Goodwin was healthy we weren't throwing deep a lot. It's more on Kyle and the types of plays he calls. When Goodwin had his best season in 2017, most of that was with Beathard at QB and he has the best arm on the team. Not the most accurate but for shear arm strength he's our best. We threw deep more because we had few other options at receiver and Kyle really hadn't installed his offense yet. They were still evaluating players and trying to decide who to keep. If we keep Goodwin and he can stay healthy and contribute I'm okay with that. I would prefer a bigger receiver that can still get downfield and fight for the ball when there's tight coverage.

Ahhh who do you think a team respects deep more.... a guy with Hill's speed OR a guy with Michael Thomas' speed? speed absolutely plays a factor in how a secondary covers.

AGAIN for the 10th time it's not a matter of how much you throw it deep, it's a matter of that speed dictating safety deployment on the boundary. Being explosive as soon as you catch the ball leads to YAC and turning a 4 yard slat into a explosive play downfield. You CAN NOT just leave a CB one on one with a guy like Goodwin. That DB will get toasted on a 9-route. speed spreads the field out and allows guys like Kittle/Deebo to run wild in the middle of the field. It's a major reason as to why Kyle has always had a burner.

Originally posted by mayo49:
He might not be a great route runner, but his speed will keep him on the team.

Nah he's actually a decent route-runner. He can't stay healthy and his hands are subpar. His speed will keep him in the league (like Ted Ginn Jr). I don't know if he will stay on this team though. $ is limited and the draft has cheap alternatives.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
He might not be a great route runner, but his speed will keep him on the team.

Nah he's actually a decent route-runner. He can't stay healthy and his hands are subpar. His speed will keep him in the league (like Ted Ginn Jr). I don't know if he will stay on this team though. $ is limited and the draft has cheap alternatives.

He's still a better option than Sanders, IMO.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
He might not be a great route runner, but his speed will keep him on the team.

Nah he's actually a decent route-runner. He can't stay healthy and his hands are subpar. His speed will keep him in the league (like Ted Ginn Jr). I don't know if he will stay on this team though. $ is limited and the draft has cheap alternatives.

He's still a better option than Sanders, IMO.

No he isn't. Sanders is a elite route-runner NEVER drops balls and actually stays on the field.

I have no idea why you keep proclaiming this?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
He might not be a great route runner, but his speed will keep him on the team.

Nah he's actually a decent route-runner. He can't stay healthy and his hands are subpar. His speed will keep him in the league (like Ted Ginn Jr). I don't know if he will stay on this team though. $ is limited and the draft has cheap alternatives.

He's still a better option than Sanders, IMO.

No he isn't. Sanders is a elite route-runner NEVER drops balls and actually stays on the field.

I have no idea why you keep proclaiming this?

But, he's slow - I want some speed from my WR1. I think Goodwin can fill that roll and not cost much.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
He might not be a great route runner, but his speed will keep him on the team.

Nah he's actually a decent route-runner. He can't stay healthy and his hands are subpar. His speed will keep him in the league (like Ted Ginn Jr). I don't know if he will stay on this team though. $ is limited and the draft has cheap alternatives.

He's still a better option than Sanders, IMO.

No he isn't. Sanders is a elite route-runner NEVER drops balls and actually stays on the field.

I have no idea why you keep proclaiming this?

But, he's slow - I want some speed from my WR1. I think Goodwin can fill that roll and not cost a much.

goodwin as a #1!? my guy you have lost your damn mind! for one dude never stays on the field, bless him but seems to have personal issues every year then on top of health, then he drops damn catchable balls. He's 29 and has never ever been a #1. that ship has sailed and I hope we can even get a 7th for him at least

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
He might not be a great route runner, but his speed will keep him on the team.

Nah he's actually a decent route-runner. He can't stay healthy and his hands are subpar. His speed will keep him in the league (like Ted Ginn Jr). I don't know if he will stay on this team though. $ is limited and the draft has cheap alternatives.

He's still a better option than Sanders, IMO.

No he isn't. Sanders is a elite route-runner NEVER drops balls and actually stays on the field.

I have no idea why you keep proclaiming this?

But, he's slow - I want some speed from my WR1. I think Goodwin can fill that roll and not cost a much.

goodwin as a #1!? my guy you have lost your damn mind! for one dude never stays on the field, bless him but seems to have personal issues every year then on top of health, then he drops damn catchable balls. He's 29 and has never ever been a #1. that ship has sailed and I hope we can even get a 7th for him at least

Well, he was our #1 back a few years ago. Until we get an upgrade he's going to have to fill that roll.

Originally posted by mayo49:

But, he's slow - I want some speed from my WR1. I think Goodwin can fill that roll and not cost much.

WHAT? Sanders is NOT slow.

Goodwin can't sniff Sanders' jock strap as far a being a compete WR.

Horrible take man.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Well, he was our #1 back a few years ago. Until we get an upgrade he's going to have to fill that roll.

He was never meant to be a WR (that was Gracon) He was suppose to fill that Tyler Gabriel role in Kyle's scheme.

Mayo you're off your rocker here lol.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
He might not be a great route runner, but his speed will keep him on the team.

Nah he's actually a decent route-runner. He can't stay healthy and his hands are subpar. His speed will keep him in the league (like Ted Ginn Jr). I don't know if he will stay on this team though. $ is limited and the draft has cheap alternatives.

He's still a better option than Sanders, IMO.

No he isn't. Sanders is a elite route-runner NEVER drops balls and actually stays on the field.

I have no idea why you keep proclaiming this?

But, he's slow - I want some speed from my WR1. I think Goodwin can fill that roll and not cost a much.

goodwin as a #1!? my guy you have lost your damn mind! for one dude never stays on the field, bless him but seems to have personal issues every year then on top of health, then he drops damn catchable balls. He's 29 and has never ever been a #1. that ship has sailed and I hope we can even get a 7th for him at least

Well, he was our #1 back a few years ago. Until we get an upgrade he's going to have to fill that roll.

Deebo already is a major upgrade and you can believe John and Kyle will do whatever to add more whether thats bringing back Sanders or taking a wr early. Goodwin will most likely not be back

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
He might not be a great route runner, but his speed will keep him on the team.

Nah he's actually a decent route-runner. He can't stay healthy and his hands are subpar. His speed will keep him in the league (like Ted Ginn Jr). I don't know if he will stay on this team though. $ is limited and the draft has cheap alternatives.

He's still a better option than Sanders, IMO.

No he isn't. Sanders is a elite route-runner NEVER drops balls and actually stays on the field.

I have no idea why you keep proclaiming this?

But, he's slow - I want some speed from my WR1. I think Goodwin can fill that roll and not cost a much.

goodwin as a #1!? my guy you have lost your damn mind! for one dude never stays on the field, bless him but seems to have personal issues every year then on top of health, then he drops damn catchable balls. He's 29 and has never ever been a #1. that ship has sailed and I hope we can even get a 7th for him at least

Well, he was our #1 back a few years ago. Until we get an upgrade he's going to have to fill that roll.

Deebo already is a major upgrade and you can believe John and Kyle will do whatever to add more whether thats bringing back Sanders or taking a wr early. Goodwin will most likely not be back

I'm just projecting that Sanders will be gone in FA and unless we go high with a WR in the draft or sign a FA - see Goodwin as the defacto WR1.

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
He might not be a great route runner, but his speed will keep him on the team.

Nah he's actually a decent route-runner. He can't stay healthy and his hands are subpar. His speed will keep him in the league (like Ted Ginn Jr). I don't know if he will stay on this team though. $ is limited and the draft has cheap alternatives.

He's still a better option than Sanders, IMO.

No he isn't. Sanders is a elite route-runner NEVER drops balls and actually stays on the field.

I have no idea why you keep proclaiming this?

But, he's slow - I want some speed from my WR1. I think Goodwin can fill that roll and not cost a much.

goodwin as a #1!? my guy you have lost your damn mind! for one dude never stays on the field, bless him but seems to have personal issues every year then on top of health, then he drops damn catchable balls. He's 29 and has never ever been a #1. that ship has sailed and I hope we can even get a 7th for him at least

Well, he was our #1 back a few years ago. Until we get an upgrade he's going to have to fill that roll.

Deebo already is a major upgrade and you can believe John and Kyle will do whatever to add more whether thats bringing back Sanders or taking a wr early. Goodwin will most likely not be back

Yeah, but Deebo is the perfect WR2 - I don't want to be moving him around.

Originally posted by mayo49:

I'm just projecting that Sanders will be gone in FA and unless we go high with a WR in the draft or sign a FA - see Goodwin as the defacto WR1.

Goodwin isn't even a WR1 even if sanders is gone.