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WR Marquise "Flash" Goodwin (traded to PHI)

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
I read he is getting separation along with his speed, he should catch a ton of balls. Niners have slow and plodding at receiver for years

Yup we got speed all over the place for once...I would like to get a bigger WR that can be used for jump balls and in the red zone though, one guy I'm gonna keep my eye on come FA is donte moncrief. I was a big fan during the draft an he has a nack for scoring TDs

Ha, I thought the same. Aside from Mack, Sanu was their best pickup esp. for the RZ.

We badly need a guy like that...Moncrief would be a terrific pickup.

Yup agreed he's got to stay healthy though
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yup agreed he's got to stay healthy though

Struggles with injuries but lots of talent? Sounds like our kind of guy!
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by titan:
There are fantasy points I see in his future.

garcon is my guy for fantasy, especially PPR

Agreed. I could easily see Garcon catching a 100 passes this year.

In madden?

Don't see why he couldn't? He had 183 targets his last season with Kyle and RG3 throwing him the ball.

I just think were going to run the ball A LOOOOT. Hold Hoyer to less than 20 passes a game and have our hopefully much improved Defense win us games. Kinda the old Harbaugh strategy with a more creative offense. Until we have the proper pieces in place I wouldn't want to see 30ish passing attempts. Just how I'm seeing this next season going. Not to exciting of plays but the creativity will be there. Then we get Cousins or a 1st round QB. And start opening it up next year.
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Pleasantly surprised with this guy!

BOTH guys are having a real good camp.

Agree. Can't wait to see them next Friday in KC!
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by titan:
There are fantasy points I see in his future.

garcon is my guy for fantasy, especially PPR

Agreed. I could easily see Garcon catching a 100 passes this year.

In madden?

Don't see why he couldn't? He had 183 targets his last season with Kyle and RG3 throwing him the ball.

I just think were going to run the ball A LOOOOT. Hold Hoyer to less than 20 passes a game and have our hopefully much improved Defense win us games. Kinda the old Harbaugh strategy with a more creative offense. Until we have the proper pieces in place I wouldn't want to see 30ish passing attempts. Just how I'm seeing this next season going. Not to exciting of plays but the creativity will be there. Then we get Cousins or a 1st round QB. And start opening it up next year.

I hear this. That said, Kyle's passing to running ratio is something like 60:40 IIRC.

But with the team, that may come closer to 55:45 here.
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Pleasantly surprised with this guy!

BOTH guys are having a real good camp.

Agree. Can't wait to see them next Friday in KC!

The nice thing about Dontae is he's a better gamer than practice player but now he's practicing well too. Can he be both now?
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Originally posted by tohara3:
Agree. Can't wait to see them next Friday in KC!

I like how low Goodwin got entering the break. Really low.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by titan:
There are fantasy points I see in his future.

garcon is my guy for fantasy, especially PPR

Agreed. I could easily see Garcon catching a 100 passes this year.

In madden?

Don't see why he couldn't? He had 183 targets his last season with Kyle and RG3 throwing him the ball.

I just think were going to run the ball A LOOOOT. Hold Hoyer to less than 20 passes a game and have our hopefully much improved Defense win us games. Kinda the old Harbaugh strategy with a more creative offense. Until we have the proper pieces in place I wouldn't want to see 30ish passing attempts. Just how I'm seeing this next season going. Not to exciting of plays but the creativity will be there. Then we get Cousins or a 1st round QB. And start opening it up next year.

I hear this. That said, Kyle's passing to running ratio is something like 60:40 IIRC.

But with the team, that may come closer to 55:45 here.

I could be wrong but 20 passes a game is awfully low for a QB to establish rhythm. That might be a cold weather/stout defense game plan though.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by titan:
There are fantasy points I see in his future.

garcon is my guy for fantasy, especially PPR

Agreed. I could easily see Garcon catching a 100 passes this year.

In madden?

Don't see why he couldn't? He had 183 targets his last season with Kyle and RG3 throwing him the ball.

I just think were going to run the ball A LOOOOT. Hold Hoyer to less than 20 passes a game and have our hopefully much improved Defense win us games. Kinda the old Harbaugh strategy with a more creative offense. Until we have the proper pieces in place I wouldn't want to see 30ish passing attempts. Just how I'm seeing this next season going. Not to exciting of plays but the creativity will be there. Then we get Cousins or a 1st round QB. And start opening it up next year.

If we draft a first round QB he probably (most likely) won't even start next year. Don't see how that opens up the offense.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yup agreed he's got to stay healthy though

Struggles with injuries but lots of talent? Sounds like our kind of guy!

Haha so this
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
In madden?
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I just think were going to run the ball A LOOOOT. Hold Hoyer to less than 20 passes a game and have our hopefully much improved Defense win us games. Kinda the old Harbaugh strategy with a more creative offense. Until we have the proper pieces in place I wouldn't want to see 30ish passing attempts. Just how I'm seeing this next season going. Not to exciting of plays but the creativity will be there. Then we get Cousins or a 1st round QB. And start opening it up next year.

We're going to run the ball, however aside from all the off-season optimism, just look at our depth chart. Who do you really see to challenge Garcon for targets? He has the most experience in Kyle's system and was the go to guy in Washington while Kyle was there. He's being paid right now for at least this season to be the primary pass catcher.

The Bills threw the least amount of passes last season in the league and still threw the ball 474 times. That averages out to 29 passes a game. In order to get around an average of 20 passes a game, your talking 320 passes on the season. Tim Tebow is not the QB of this team. They are going to still throw the ball close to an average of 30 times a game.

Look at Kyle's season in 2014 with the browns. Their personnel on offense was comparable to ours with Hoyer starting 13 games,and and they threw the ball over 500 times. Their top receiver that season was Andrew Hawkins with 63 catches. Garcon is easily a better receiver than he was and has been the primary target for Kyle before. A 100 receptions is a very achievable goal for Garcon this season. His targets will be there. If he throws the ball anything close to 500 times, that leaves about atleast 350 or more targets divided amongst the rest of the offensive skill players which sounds just about right.
[ Edited by Willisfn4life on Aug 5, 2017 at 1:16 PM ]
I have a feeling this kid is going to surprise and kill it in Shanahans offense, I'm thinking the bills weren't using him correctly..he seems to be more then just speed..
Originally posted by mojave45:
If we draft a first round QB he probably (most likely) won't even start next year. Don't see how that opens up the offense.

If we draft Rosen or Darnold, they're starting. Allen might need more time
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Agree. Can't wait to see them next Friday in KC!

I like how low Goodwin got entering the break. Really low.

It'd be cool to have sports science look at his change of direction and speed. I know getting that low must help in some way but I can't figure out how exactly
Excited as heck to watch this guy come game day. I think we might have a real fine and steal with this kid
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