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It's not hard to find another linebacker to throw his hands in the air confused at what the defense is supposed to be doing.
Smith needs to go, only question is June 1st cut, or take the whole hit this off season? I would just take the Whole hit, so we have more money to play with after this coming season.
He should be cut, a rookie will be more available and productive..or they sign KJ Wright..
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Originally posted by jersey49er:
He should be cut, a rookie will be more available and productive..or they sign KJ Wright..

It just makes me crazy when you got people who say.. i am down for resigning ward and smith if they will play for cheap because they know the system. that has NOTHING to do with the fact both are just garbage on the field when and if they see the field because they are always hurt. there is not one logical reason to keep them around. not one
Only way I would want Smith+Ward back, would be if they would sign for the league minimum. Smith would have to be cut first, and then brought back for the minimum. Both players at that price would be good for our team, but neither will sign for that with us, so it's kind of a moot point. If for some reason they would come back for that, it allows us to be more BPA in the draft compared to going by positions of need.
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Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
Only way I would want Smith+Ward back, would be if they would sign for the league minimum. Smith would have to be cut first, and then brought back for the minimum. Both players at that price would be good for our team, but neither will sign for that with us, so it's kind of a moot point. If for some reason they would come back for that, it allows us to be more BPA in the draft compared to going by positions of need.

no.. i am sorry. no.. money has nothing to do with this. best player available also happens to fit our most important position of need in edge rusher.. at least to most of us. with lynch who knows. no, they have no relevance to our team at all. they do not matter to us as players. they do not matter to us in regards to who we draft. they are worthless clueless and due to the fact they get hurt all the time. i suspect they are dickless as well. oh by the way. just in case you say. oh this is just hating cc being hating cc.. look at their body of work for our team since they have been on the team and you will find out his statements are not baseless
Originally posted by cciowa:
It just makes me crazy when you got people who say.. i am down for resigning ward and smith if they will play for cheap because they know the system. that has NOTHING to do with the fact both are just garbage on the field when and if they see the field because they are always hurt. there is not one logical reason to keep them around. not one

Right. Sh*tty players at ANY price still don't help your team.
[ Edited by Rathof44 on Jan 27, 2019 at 9:55 AM ]
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Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by cciowa:
It just makes me crazy when you got people who say.. i am down for resigning ward and smith if they will play for cheap because they know the system. that has NOTHING to do with the fact both are just garbage on the field when and if they see the field because they are always hurt. there is not one logical reason to keep them around. not one

Right. Sh*tty players at ANY price still don't help your team.
i jut do not understand how some fans have such a loyalty to crap players. the price tag you speculate they should be signed for is worthless when they are crap. ward was crap at 9 million a year. he will be crap at 200 thousand dollars. here lets sign crap players as part of our brick by brick process to turn this thing around. its players like smith and ward and yes decisions on those players by lynch is one small reason why we are picking second.
Thoughts on possibly going after Anthony Barr? Would he be a good fit at SAM? Replace Smith? If we were to sign him, (and in the event we were to trade back in the draft for whatever reason ) grab someone like Devin White, we'd have a pretty solid Linebacking core of Warner, White and Barr. Not sure how much it would cost to get someone like Barr, but it would be an upgrade over Smith.
[ Edited by HawaiianNiner27 on Jan 27, 2019 at 10:25 AM ]
IMO he will definitely be cut.

The question is WHEN?
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
IMO he will definitely be cut.

The question is WHEN?

Today is still young
Originally posted by HawaiianNiner27:
Thoughts on possibly going after Anthony Barr? Would he be a good fit at SAM? Replace Smith? If we were to sign him, (and in the event we were to trade back in the draft for whatever reason ) grab someone like Devin White, we'd have a pretty solid Linebacking core of Warner, White and Barr. Not sure how much it would cost to get someone like Barr, but it would be an upgrade over Smith.

The SAM LB plays about 15% of total snaps. In fact, they don't use a SAM at all versus the Rams, so if they're going to pay someone to play that position, it better be someone that can do more than just play SAM LB because handing out an exorbitant contract to play 15% of total snaps is beyond dumb.

For example, an edge rusher that can also drop back in coverage and defend the run would be a solid SAM option, or someone that can play SAM and slide over into the weakside hook spot in nickel.

I'm not losing sleep over the SAM spot, tho.
[ Edited by Heroism on Jan 27, 2019 at 10:59 AM ]
We still talking about his tampon?
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by cciowa:
It just makes me crazy when you got people who say.. i am down for resigning ward and smith if they will play for cheap because they know the system. that has NOTHING to do with the fact both are just garbage on the field when and if they see the field because they are always hurt. there is not one logical reason to keep them around. not one

Right. Sh*tty players at ANY price still don't help your team.
i jut do not understand how some fans have such a loyalty to crap players. the price tag you speculate they should be signed for is worthless when they are crap. ward was crap at 9 million a year. he will be crap at 200 thousand dollars. here lets sign crap players as part of our brick by brick process to turn this thing around. its players like smith and ward and yes decisions on those players by lynch is one small reason why we are picking second.

100%. Between injuries and just plain sucking....it doesn't work.
[ Edited by Rathof44 on Jan 27, 2019 at 11:55 AM ]


This needed to happen. I hope it doesnt stop us from going after a linebacker though
[ Edited by saniner on Mar 8, 2019 at 5:10 AM ]
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