Solomon Thomas, DT

Originally posted by Zachary:
Tack on some weight

It might help, it might not.

Bottom line, half of the top 10 picks that year including Solly are not getting their 5th year option picked up. That's the NFL draft in a nutshell. Teams and GM's are lucky if they hit on half their picks. Niners were no different.

As fans, all we can hope for is that Solly follows the same career track as Laken Tomlinson. His 5th year guarantee wasn't picked up, but he had a good 4th year which led to keeping his starting job and getting a long term deal. It's not over yet.

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:

Bottom line, half of the top 10 picks that year including Solly are not getting their 5th year option picked up. That's the NFL draft in a nutshell. Teams and GM's are lucky if they hit on half their picks. Niners were no different.

As fans, all we can hope for is that Solly follows the same career track as Laken Tomlinson. His 5th year guarantee wasn't picked up, but he had a good 4th year which led to keeping his starting job and getting a long term deal. It's not over yet.

But... I wanna be angry at something !

Thomas has been a big disappointment so far but the 49ers , like all teams have had a lot of players that didn't play up to expectations. We've also had a lot of players that turned out a lot better than expected. That's the way football and all sports work. You can look at all the film you want and measure and test these guys until you're blue in the face and you can never be 100% sure that they will be good players. Injuries and outside influences can change a players career path in a heartbeat. Sometimes they're just not a good fit. Maybe they just can't handle the higher level of competition.

In the end all a team can do is take their best shot. When they decide that the player isn't worth keeping then they get rid of him. They don't really care whether he was a 1st rounder or a 6th rounder. All they care about is can he play. They give 1st and 2nd rounders a little more time to pan out since they pay them more but in the end they still have to produce.

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Bottom line, half of the top 10 picks that year including Solly are not getting their 5th year option picked up. That's the NFL draft in a nutshell. Teams and GM's are lucky if they hit on half their picks. Niners were no different.

As fans, all we can hope for is that Solly follows the same career track as Laken Tomlinson. His 5th year guarantee wasn't picked up, but he had a good 4th year which led to keeping his starting job and getting a long term deal. It's not over yet.

Once we took Kinlaw that became pretty unlikely. He has to do what he can as a rotational player.

Stop with the "what if" scenarios, it's not going to happen. Get over it.

koldo koldo koldo...

did you not see the miracle of AA last year ??

Originally posted by Geeked:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
In all seriousness, he should asked to be traded before the year starts, assuming he already hasn't behind close doors.

Oh, you know a trade is being explored. By not picking up the option, he has become more marketable for a late round pick exchange or possibly another teams reclamation project. Either way, if he stays, he's not making as much as his rookie deal, if he leaves this year, chances are there will be some compensation.

Not picking up his option was a formality. The option was for 12 million I think. I say let the year play out and see what he does. Can he be a serviceable rotation guy? Not much to lose

Originally posted by 9moon:

koldo koldo koldo...

did you not see the miracle of AA last year ??

C'mon man.

Armstead was always a good player. His main problems were injuries and inconsistency.

Last season he went from good to great and became the disruptive player we always expected him to be.

Solomon Thomas is invisible on the field. You could get the exact same production from an UDFA.

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:
ok, so the question is, if he becomes the player we envisioned him to be... and or to have a year like Bucko 2 years ago and Aweak last year, how much should we offer him?

If by some miracle he broke out like AA, you either offer him a one year prove deal or you tag and trade him to the highest possible bidder.

I just don't see some huge breakout season happening when he's only going to be getting 15 to 20 snaps a game as a rotational player.

I don't either. I was only responding to the question. Also, Dee Ford killed the notion that you can't make an impact on limited snaps. If you are better than your guy and can beat your guy consistently, you will make an impact, period. No matter how few snaps you are given. The problem with Thomas is that his win rate is so low that he needs a lot of snaps to even have an opportunity to make an impact.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Zachary:

Tack on some weight

It might help, it might not.

But.. it might

What's the chance ST gets traded by the end of training camp?

It seems like the best case scenario is that he comes in hair on fire and increases his trade value some what.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 9moon:
koldo koldo koldo...

did you not see the miracle of AA last year ??

C'mon man.

Armstead was always a good player. His main problems were injuries and inconsistency.

Last season he went from good to great and became the disruptive player we always expected him to be.

Solomon Thomas is invisible on the field. You could get the exact same production from an UDFA.

I have said this before the, niners see more of a player than any of us who only see preseason games and read reports from beat writers who only see a fraction of the practices. This front office (Kyle and John) have always been forth coming. They touted players like Arik and Ward when fans were saying release, cut or trade. Also, new DL coach finally got him going right. Solomon has not had the same accolades afforded him. Arik has always produced, as a run defender. He also made a lot of pressures and hurries and last year they ended up converting to sacks.

Originally posted by Butter:
What's the chance ST gets traded by the end of training camp?

It seems like the best case scenario is that he comes in hair on fire and increases his trade value some what.

0. No one wants to pay this guy 9 million. It's not like he's some game changer.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:
ok, so the question is, if he becomes the player we envisioned him to be... and or to have a year like Bucko 2 years ago and Aweak last year, how much should we offer him?

If by some miracle he broke out like AA, you either offer him a one year prove deal or you tag and trade him to the highest possible bidder.

I just don't see some huge breakout season happening when he's only going to be getting 15 to 20 snaps a game as a rotational player.

I don't either. I was only responding to the question. Also, Dee Ford killed the notion that you can't make an impact on limited snaps. If you are better than your guy and can beat your guy consistently, you will make an impact, period. No matter how few snaps you are given. The problem with Thomas is that his win rate is so low that he needs a lot of snaps to even have an opportunity to make an impact.

If he somehow lights it up, then the niners probably could resign him, but it will be to a much lesser contract than a fifth year option. If they let him walk and a team overpays, then depending on the new contract, niners gain as high as a 3rd round comp. Resigning him if he has a breakout year, will depend on his numbers and if he produced those numbers or if they were garbage numbers