Solomon Thomas, DT

Bring him back. There's no reason not to. He won't cost much, he hustles, works hard, is good against the run and the 49ers need depth.

I remember when Brandon Graham was a bust. And then he worked his ass off until he wasn't. What do we have to lose? Nothing.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Bring him back. There's no reason not to. He won't cost much, he hustles, works hard, is good against the run and the 49ers need depth.

I remember when Brandon Graham was a bust. And then he worked his ass off until he wasn't. What do we have to lose? Nothing.

It's gotta be mutual. If I was Solly, I'd want to hit the reset button on my career. If he stays in SF, he'll play behind Kinlaw, Jones, and Armstead at DT. And if Hyder resigns, and we acquire more EDGE talent to pair with Bosa, he'd have a VERY small role on our team.

He has an opportunity to re-establish his career by following Saleh or finding a scheme that works best for him (e.g. 3-4 DE or exclusive 4-3 DT). The cap may be shrinking, but there's a boat load of teams that are willing to take a flyer on a guy like Solly and pay him a premium 1 year deal (e.g. offer $5M vs. $2M) with him as a projected starter.

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Bring him back. There's no reason not to. He won't cost much, he hustles, works hard, is good against the run and the 49ers need depth.

I remember when Brandon Graham was a bust. And then he worked his ass off until he wasn't. What do we have to lose? Nothing.

It's gotta be mutual. If I was Solly, I'd want to hit the reset button on my career. If he stays in SF, he'll play behind Kinlaw, Jones, and Armstead at DT. And if Hyder resigns, and we acquire more EDGE talent to pair with Bosa, he'd have a VERY small role on our team.

He has an opportunity to re-establish his career by following Saleh or finding a scheme that works best for him (e.g. 3-4 DE or exclusive 4-3 DT). The cap may be shrinking, but there's a boat load of teams that are willing to take a flyer on a guy like Solly and pay him a premium 1 year deal (e.g. offer $5M vs. $2M) with him as a projected starter.

What? only high school coaches project thomas as a starter. He's done. Too much tape of him turning his back. Avoids contact, overmatched.

I was in the camp that wanted him cut before 2020. I was on record saying that paying him $4M to go away was better for our team than paying him $8M to play. But I have completely flipped on that. I think we should offer him a 1/$1.5M for 2021 and let him be depth. We could do far worse.

Originally posted by GEEK:
It's gotta be mutual. If I was Solly, I'd want to hit the reset button on my career. If he stays in SF, he'll play behind Kinlaw, Jones, and Armstead at DT. And if Hyder resigns, and we acquire more EDGE talent to pair with Bosa, he'd have a VERY small role on our team.

He has an opportunity to re-establish his career by following Saleh or finding a scheme that works best for him (e.g. 3-4 DE or exclusive 4-3 DT). The cap may be shrinking, but there's a boat load of teams that are willing to take a flyer on a guy like Solly and pay him a premium 1 year deal (e.g. offer $5M vs. $2M) with him as a projected starter.

Hyder resigning is a very big If. I don't think he is coming back with our cap issues. Trent Williams and Verrett might be the priority.

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Bring him back. There's no reason not to. He won't cost much, he hustles, works hard, is good against the run and the 49ers need depth.

I remember when Brandon Graham was a bust. And then he worked his ass off until he wasn't. What do we have to lose? Nothing.

It's gotta be mutual. If I was Solly, I'd want to hit the reset button on my career. If he stays in SF, he'll play behind Kinlaw, Jones, and Armstead at DT. And if Hyder resigns, and we acquire more EDGE talent to pair with Bosa, he'd have a VERY small role on our team.

He has an opportunity to re-establish his career by following Saleh or finding a scheme that works best for him (e.g. 3-4 DE or exclusive 4-3 DT). The cap may be shrinking, but there's a boat load of teams that are willing to take a flyer on a guy like Solly and pay him a premium 1 year deal (e.g. offer $5M vs. $2M) with him as a projected starter.

Agree with you that Solly would want to hit the reset button. One reason is the Saleh as new HC opportunity. If that does happen, I can see Solly going with Saleh to a new team. I think there is a good chance Hyder resigns because his career was rejuvenated with Kocurek coaching him. It's been, something like almost every draft, ShanaLynch drafts a DLineman in the first round - I can see that happening again with a lack of depth behind Bosa and Hyder. So, yeah, I can see Solly being bench warmer with all the talent that will be potentially in front of him. If he wants to play and Saleh is HC, I can see him leaving for greener pastures.

I would pay the new jets head coach to take thomas with him

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I was in the camp that wanted him cut before 2020. I was on record saying that paying him $4M to go away was better for our team than paying him $8M to play. But I have completely flipped on that. I think we should offer him a 1/$1.5M for 2021 and let him be depth. We could do far worse.

Only AFTER every productive player is signed.

And really, if you think about Solly's career, he needs one last chance somewhere else.

A fresh start, maybe some new coaching ideas thrown at him. Get some positive vibes to jump start his mind set.

Here, it will be harder for him to get opportunity than elsewhere.

Will he go to the Jets now? lol

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Will he go to the Jets now? lol

Why would Saleh want him?

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Will he go to the Jets now? lol

Why would Saleh want him?

he loves Solly

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I was in the camp that wanted him cut before 2020. I was on record saying that paying him $4M to go away was better for our team than paying him $8M to play. But I have completely flipped on that. I think we should offer him a 1/$1.5M for 2021 and let him be depth. We could do far worse.

Only AFTER every productive player is signed.

And really, if you think about Solly's career, he needs one last chance somewhere else.

A fresh start, maybe some new coaching ideas thrown at him. Get some positive vibes to jump start his mind set.

Here, it will be harder for him to get opportunity than elsewhere.

Sure. I just think that you can always find room within your salary cap for a $1M a year player. I seriously doubt that $1M will prevent us from bringing anyone back. Solly sucks, but he is a body. And as far as depth goes, theres no reason why he couldnt be our 6-7th best defensive lineman. That would be worth the contract.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

I was in the camp that wanted him cut before 2020. I was on record saying that paying him $4M to go away was better for our team than paying him $8M to play. But I have completely flipped on that. I think we should offer him a 1/$1.5M for 2021 and let him be depth. We could do far worse.

Only AFTER every productive player is signed.

And really, if you think about Solly's career, he needs one last chance somewhere else.

A fresh start, maybe some new coaching ideas thrown at him. Get some positive vibes to jump start his mind set.

Here, it will be harder for him to get opportunity than elsewhere.

Sure. I just think that you can always find room within your salary cap for a $1M a year player. I seriously doubt that $1M will prevent us from bringing anyone back. Solly sucks, but he is a body. And as far as depth goes, theres no reason why he couldnt be our 6-7th best defensive lineman. That would be worth the contract.

It's a balance of short-term vs. long-term. 1 year for $1M is fine, but is Solly a long-term vital player to our DL? FO and Coaching Staff would rather find a rookie to develop over 3-4 years vs. 1 year stop gap.

For the sake of Solly, I think he needs a fresh start. And NYJ could be a great place under Solly to get more playing time as an exclusive DT.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Only AFTER every productive player is signed.

And really, if you think about Solly's career, he needs one last chance somewhere else.

Solly is productive, he gets tons of tackles and has a very high motor. He's just not a good pass rusher.

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I was in the camp that wanted him cut before 2020. I was on record saying that paying him $4M to go away was better for our team than paying him $8M to play. But I have completely flipped on that. I think we should offer him a 1/$1.5M for 2021 and let him be depth. We could do far worse.

Only AFTER every productive player is signed.

And really, if you think about Solly's career, he needs one last chance somewhere else.

A fresh start, maybe some new coaching ideas thrown at him. Get some positive vibes to jump start his mind set.

Here, it will be harder for him to get opportunity than elsewhere.

Sure. I just think that you can always find room within your salary cap for a $1M a year player. I seriously doubt that $1M will prevent us from bringing anyone back. Solly sucks, but he is a body. And as far as depth goes, theres no reason why he couldnt be our 6-7th best defensive lineman. That would be worth the contract.

It's a balance of short-term vs. long-term. 1 year for $1M is fine, but is Solly a long-term vital player to our DL? FO and Coaching Staff would rather find a rookie to develop over 3-4 years vs. 1 year stop gap.

For the sake of Solly, I think he needs a fresh start. And NYJ could be a great place under Solly to get more playing time as an exclusive DT.

Definitely a fair take. If you think we could get the same out of a developmental rookie, then by all means Solly can kick rocks.

As far as your "for the sake of Solly..." part is concerned, I couldnt care less what is good for him. He is going to haunt this franchise as the worst draft pick in multiple decades. Certainly the worst in my lifetime as far as I am concerned. What is the best for him couldnt be more irrelevant to me.