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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Sure. I just think that you can always find room within your salary cap for a $1M a year player. I seriously doubt that $1M will prevent us from bringing anyone back. Solly sucks, but he is a body. And as far as depth goes, theres no reason why he couldnt be our 6-7th best defensive lineman. That would be worth the contract.
Originally posted by GEEK:Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:I was in the camp that wanted him cut before 2020. I was on record saying that paying him $4M to go away was better for our team than paying him $8M to play. But I have completely flipped on that. I think we should offer him a 1/$1.5M for 2021 and let him be depth. We could do far worse.
Only AFTER every productive player is signed.
And really, if you think about Solly's career, he needs one last chance somewhere else.
A fresh start, maybe some new coaching ideas thrown at him. Get some positive vibes to jump start his mind set.
Here, it will be harder for him to get opportunity than elsewhere.
Sure. I just think that you can always find room within your salary cap for a $1M a year player. I seriously doubt that $1M will prevent us from bringing anyone back. Solly sucks, but he is a body. And as far as depth goes, theres no reason why he couldnt be our 6-7th best defensive lineman. That would be worth the contract.
It's a balance of short-term vs. long-term. 1 year for $1M is fine, but is Solly a long-term vital player to our DL? FO and Coaching Staff would rather find a rookie to develop over 3-4 years vs. 1 year stop gap.
For the sake of Solly, I think he needs a fresh start. And NYJ could be a great place under Solly to get more playing time as an exclusive DT.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:I was in the camp that wanted him cut before 2020. I was on record saying that paying him $4M to go away was better for our team than paying him $8M to play. But I have completely flipped on that. I think we should offer him a 1/$1.5M for 2021 and let him be depth. We could do far worse.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
100% agree here. I'm in a minority, but I really don't mind Solly as a 3 tech. I've seen a number of good plays and fee negatives as a 3 tech. His biggest issues have been playing edge and then consistently dominating. He has flashes but hasn't figured out how to string moves together.
Originally posted by Heroism:Originally posted by jonnydel:100% agree here. I'm in a minority, but I really don't mind Solly as a 3 tech. I've seen a number of good plays and fee negatives as a 3 tech. His biggest issues have been playing edge and then consistently dominating. He has flashes but hasn't figured out how to string moves together.
Agreed.
Originally posted by 9moon:
WHY would he go with Saleh when he doesn't get the booooooo birds here in SF??? In New York, he'll be getting that after the 1st QTR !!
Originally posted by Waterbear:Originally posted by Heroism:Originally posted by jonnydel:100% agree here. I'm in a minority, but I really don't mind Solly as a 3 tech. I've seen a number of good plays and fee negatives as a 3 tech. His biggest issues have been playing edge and then consistently dominating. He has flashes but hasn't figured out how to string moves together.
Agreed.
Disagree. Thomas was a liability in run defense and basically invisible as a pass rusher minus a handful of pressures.
Question is: Is he better than Kinlaw? No.
Givens? No.
DJ Jones? No
Street? Possibly as a pass rusher but he doesn't have nearly the same playing time.
I don't think it's far fetched to find a late round or an undrafted player to replace Thomas' "production" by any means. All of those players I mentioned have had much more impressive flashes than Thomas IMO minus Street because of playing time.
He doesn't sting moves together because he doesn't have them. Period.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Bring him back. There's no reason not to. He won't cost much, he hustles, works hard, is good against the run and the 49ers need depth.
I remember when Brandon Graham was a bust. And then he worked his ass off until he wasn't. What do we have to lose? Nothing.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:Originally posted by Heroism:Bring him back. There's no reason not to. He won't cost much, he hustles, works hard, is good against the run and the 49ers need depth.
I remember when Brandon Graham was a bust. And then he worked his ass off until he wasn't. What do we have to lose? Nothing.
Not as big as a bust as Thomas, but point taken. If that is to happen, they have to put Thomas a 3T and leave him there. This is also why I wish there were still 4 preseason games, because if there were, Thomas could get almost a full game's worth of reps as opposed to 20 snaps at best as a backup. Either way, he's better off following Saleh to NY if he will have him.
Originally posted by All22:Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:Only AFTER every productive player is signed.
And really, if you think about Solly's career, he needs one last chance somewhere else.
Solly is productive, he gets tons of tackles and has a very high motor. He's just not a good pass rusher.
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Bring him back. There's no reason not to. He won't cost much, he hustles, works hard, is good against the run and the 49ers need depth.
I remember when Brandon Graham was a bust. And then he worked his ass off until he wasn't. What do we have to lose? Nothing.
Not as big as a bust as Thomas, but point taken. If that is to happen, they have to put Thomas a 3T and leave him there. This is also why I wish there were still 4 preseason games, because if there were, Thomas could get almost a full game's worth of reps as opposed to 20 snaps at best as a backup. Either way, he's better off following Saleh to NY if he will have him.
Why would he follow the defensive coach that never played him? Clearly Saleh didn't think much of his skill set. Personally, I would avoid all things Niners.