Solomon Thomas, DT

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Biggest bust of my lifetime.

Were you not alive for A J. Jenkins? Rashad woods, Kwame Harris, Kentwan Balmer, Mike rumph, Jim Drunkenmiller, Josh Garnett?

While none of those guys were as highly drafted, I think you could easily say Solly has been better than all those guys.

#3 pick is worth 2200 points

#31 is 600 points

Originally posted by dhp318:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
No. Just because he was the 3rd pick doesn't mean he's a bigger bust than Jenkins, Druckenmiller, Balmer, or Woods. They were all far worse and much bigger busts.

Yes it does. I would rather have drafted jenkins in the end of the 1st than Thomas at #3

I agree with dhp318 on this one. Guys drafted in the back end of round 1 bust all the time, easily hit or miss. When you have a top 5 pick, let alone a top 3 pick, you expect that person to be a cornerstone player of your franchise.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Biggest bust of my lifetime.

Were you not alive for A J. Jenkins? Rashad woods, Kwame Harris, Kentwan Balmer, Mike rumph, Jim Drunkenmiller, Josh Garnett?

While none of those guys were as highly drafted, I think you could easily say Solly has been better than all those guys.

Easily better.

I liked Rumph and he was improving until he broke his arm tackling Steven Jackson and that was it.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
#3 pick is worth 2200 points

#31 is 600 points

According to the archaic trade value chart that is now pretty much irrelevant due to the rookie wage scale.

Thomas has also been worth 3 times what Jenkins gave us.

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
#3 pick is worth 2200 points

#31 is 600 points

According to the archaic trade value chart that is now pretty much irrelevant due to the rookie wage scale.

Thomas has also been worth 3 times what Jenkins gave us.

Jenkins was also a reach. Had no business being in the first round. Major head scratcher. Thomas, on the other hand, was never slipping outside of the top 10. Thomas = bigger bust by a landslide

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
#3 pick is worth 2200 points

#31 is 600 points

According to the archaic trade value chart that is now pretty much irrelevant due to the rookie wage scale.

Thomas has also been worth 3 times what Jenkins gave us.

The rookie wage scale makes the 3rd pick even more valuable

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
#3 pick is worth 2200 points

#31 is 600 points

According to the archaic trade value chart that is now pretty much irrelevant due to the rookie wage scale.

Thomas has also been worth 3 times what Jenkins gave us.

The rookie wage scale makes the 3rd pick even more valuable

Agreed. People were less likely to make those huge trade ups prior to the wage scale because of the massive cost AND the insane contracts rookies got. For everyone thinking we should trade up for a QB, imagine having to give up multiple first and other picks for a QB AND having to make that guy nearly the highest paid QB in the league.

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:

Originally posted by dhp318:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
No. Just because he was the 3rd pick doesn't mean he's a bigger bust than Jenkins, Druckenmiller, Balmer, or Woods. They were all far worse and much bigger busts.

Yes it does. I would rather have drafted jenkins in the end of the 1st than Thomas at #3

I agree with dhp318 on this one. Guys drafted in the back end of round 1 bust all the time, easily hit or miss. When you have a top 5 pick, let alone a top 3 pick, you expect that person to be a cornerstone player of your franchise.

+1. I don't think you can look at players and ignore their draft position when considering their bust status. Solly was a huge disappointment.

Originally posted by IGSXIII:

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:

Originally posted by dhp318:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
No. Just because he was the 3rd pick doesn't mean he's a bigger bust than Jenkins, Druckenmiller, Balmer, or Woods. They were all far worse and much bigger busts.

Yes it does. I would rather have drafted jenkins in the end of the 1st than Thomas at #3

I agree with dhp318 on this one. Guys drafted in the back end of round 1 bust all the time, easily hit or miss. When you have a top 5 pick, let alone a top 3 pick, you expect that person to be a cornerstone player of your franchise.

+1. I don't think you can look at players and ignore their draft position when considering their bust status. Solly was a huge disappointment.

Yes he was a bad pick and disappointing. Jenkins is still the bigger bust because he did absolutely nothing. Maybe if he had a few catches and a TD it would be different.

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by IGSXIII:

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:

Originally posted by dhp318:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
No. Just because he was the 3rd pick doesn't mean he's a bigger bust than Jenkins, Druckenmiller, Balmer, or Woods. They were all far worse and much bigger busts.

Yes it does. I would rather have drafted jenkins in the end of the 1st than Thomas at #3

I agree with dhp318 on this one. Guys drafted in the back end of round 1 bust all the time, easily hit or miss. When you have a top 5 pick, let alone a top 3 pick, you expect that person to be a cornerstone player of your franchise.

+1. I don't think you can look at players and ignore their draft position when considering their bust status. Solly was a huge disappointment.

Yes he was a bad pick and disappointing. Jenkins is still the bigger bust because he did absolutely nothing. Maybe if he had a few catches and a TD it would be different.

Agreed. Solly may seem like a bigger disappointment because he was number 3, but for a first round player yo have a whole season pass by, virtually injury free and not have a single catch? Thats pretty hard to do. Thomas's starts in year 1, 3 sacks, few tackles, etc made it seem like he could possibly do something in the league. Either way, bad picks and luckily other picks made up for it in Thomas's case because normally a bust like that at no. 3 overall will set a franchise back years.

He gone yet?

We should have made him a guard.

Originally posted by 49erminion:
We should have made him a guard.

I interesting. But he's not really built like a guard either. Captain tweeny.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by IGSXIII:

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:

Originally posted by dhp318:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
No. Just because he was the 3rd pick doesn't mean he's a bigger bust than Jenkins, Druckenmiller, Balmer, or Woods. They were all far worse and much bigger busts.

Yes it does. I would rather have drafted jenkins in the end of the 1st than Thomas at #3

I agree with dhp318 on this one. Guys drafted in the back end of round 1 bust all the time, easily hit or miss. When you have a top 5 pick, let alone a top 3 pick, you expect that person to be a cornerstone player of your franchise.

+1. I don't think you can look at players and ignore their draft position when considering their bust status. Solly was a huge disappointment.

Yes he was a bad pick and disappointing. Jenkins is still the bigger bust because he did absolutely nothing. Maybe if he had a few catches and a TD it would be different.

Agreed. Solly may seem like a bigger disappointment because he was number 3, but for a first round player yo have a whole season pass by, virtually injury free and not have a single catch? Thats pretty hard to do. Thomas's starts in year 1, 3 sacks, few tackles, etc made it seem like he could possibly do something in the league. Either way, bad picks and luckily other picks made up for it in Thomas's case because normally a bust like that at no. 3 overall will set a franchise back years.

Personally if you get a good rotational player that produces in the draft. It's a win in my book. Solomon did help and did play. AJ Jenkins didn't do diddly. No better than bench warmer. He shouldn't have even been drafted.

Put in another way, if they drafted Nick Mullens at Solomons spot, its a win in my book because he at least contributed. Agree, Mullens would have been a draft bust at Solomons spot, but the purpose of the draft is to get a player that can play and contribute. One of the greatest drafts was the '86 draft and most of the players there pretty much contributed.