Solomon Thomas, DT

Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
Thomas, Foster, Witherspoon, Joe Williams, Beathard. If not for Kittle, this might be the worst 49er draft of all time considering the ammo we had.

stop crying about the past and move on already

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
Why is people still comenting here? Thomas is gone, let it go, pretend it never happened and look to the future.
People just looking for excuses to whine.

Lmao stfu. It's a damn forum. It's the off season. We've talked about Jimmy and Lance enough. You can also choose not to open topics you don't want to see discussed.

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
How many super bowls did this franchise cost themselves drafting this guy over Mahomes. And wasn't it because Kyle wanted Cousins? Lynch liked Mahomes.

Not entirely accurate. John Lynch liked Soloman because they were classmates in Stanford

Ya Lynch was a big fan of his. And look, at that time DL was a major need. You rebuild a team in the trenches as well. Plus, everyone thought we were going to sign Cousins in the offseason so we didn't need to spend a pick on QB. Hopefully Trey can fix our mistake.

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Lmao stfu. It's a damn forum. It's the off season. We've talked about Jimmy and Lance enough. You can also choose not to open topics you don't want to see discussed.

Easy. No need for a response like that.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Thomas was actually considered a good pick at the time. Many felt he was chosen a little early at #3 but he was thought to be a solid addition to the line. His versatility was considered an attribute but it turned out to be his downfall. He wasn't big enough to handle the interior or fast enough to play on the outside.

He turned out to be a poor pick at #3 overall and should have been a 2nd or 3rd rounder but it was a decent pick at the time. Like so many other players he didn't pan out.

I've never argued that Thomas wasn't considered a top pick in the draft at the time. He was unanimously considered one of the best DLineman by many "draft experts" but being a Stanford fan myself and watching him live multiple times I never thought he stood out at all and was against drafting him.

I was high on Mahomes, Hooker, and Adams. 2/3 right. And I thought Thomas and Watson would become busts. 1/2.

The draft is highly unpredictable but it ultimately doesn't matter what the consensus pre-draft was in determining if a player was a bust or a bad draft pick. Just because Thomas wasn't a reach doesn't change the the fact he was the worst draft pick we've ever had considering where we selected him and who else was on the board.

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Thomas was actually considered a good pick at the time. Many felt he was chosen a little early at #3 but he was thought to be a solid addition to the line. His versatility was considered an attribute but it turned out to be his downfall. He wasn't big enough to handle the interior or fast enough to play on the outside.

He turned out to be a poor pick at #3 overall and should have been a 2nd or 3rd rounder but it was a decent pick at the time. Like so many other players he didn't pan out.

According to who??? Again, our Dline wasnt anywhere close to our biggest issue at the time.

ST might have been considered a "good (highly debatable)" pick for a Dline needy team but that wasnt us. When you consider who our previous first round picks were, what our biggest needs were, and the QBs that went after...ST is absolutely one of the worst Niners picks.

We gave up (or were on our way) to giving up rushing yards at a historic rate. How could that not equal Dline not being closest to the biggest issue?

Arik Armstead showed nothing at the time so all we had was Buck.

But given draft position I agree, Thomas is one of the worse picks. I wouldn't argue against him being the worst.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Thomas was actually considered a good pick at the time. Many felt he was chosen a little early at #3 but he was thought to be a solid addition to the line. His versatility was considered an attribute but it turned out to be his downfall. He wasn't big enough to handle the interior or fast enough to play on the outside.

He turned out to be a poor pick at #3 overall and should have been a 2nd or 3rd rounder but it was a decent pick at the time. Like so many other players he didn't pan out.

According to who??? Again, our Dline wasnt anywhere close to our biggest issue at the time.

ST might have been considered a "good (highly debatable)" pick for a Dline needy team but that wasnt us. When you consider who our previous first round picks were, what our biggest needs were, and the QBs that went after...ST is absolutely one of the worst Niners picks.

We gave up (or were on our way) to giving up rushing yards at a historic rate. How could that not equal Dline not being closest to the biggest issue?

Arik Armstead showed nothing at the time so all we had was Buck.

But given draft position I agree, Thomas is one of the worse picks. I wouldn't argue against him being the worst.

The defense was historically bad in 2016 when the DL was Buckner, Mike Purcell and Armstead. The LB were Bowman and Ray Ray, who both got hurt and it ended with Nick Bellore and Wilhoite. So drafting DL and LB in the first round made a lot of sense.
The ST pick was just a rookie mistake and it's time to forget about it.

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Thomas was actually considered a good pick at the time. Many felt he was chosen a little early at #3 but he was thought to be a solid addition to the line. His versatility was considered an attribute but it turned out to be his downfall. He wasn't big enough to handle the interior or fast enough to play on the outside.

He turned out to be a poor pick at #3 overall and should have been a 2nd or 3rd rounder but it was a decent pick at the time. Like so many other players he didn't pan out.

According to who??? Again, our Dline wasnt anywhere close to our biggest issue at the time.

ST might have been considered a "good (highly debatable)" pick for a Dline needy team but that wasnt us. When you consider who our previous first round picks were, what our biggest needs were, and the QBs that went after...ST is absolutely one of the worst Niners picks.

We gave up (or were on our way) to giving up rushing yards at a historic rate. How could that not equal Dline not being closest to the biggest issue?

Arik Armstead showed nothing at the time so all we had was Buck.

But given draft position I agree, Thomas is one of the worse picks. I wouldn't argue against him being the worst.

The defense was historically bad in 2016 when the DL was Buckner, Mike Purcell and Armstead. The LB were Bowman and Ray Ray, who both got hurt and it ended with Nick Bellore and Wilhoite. So drafting DL and LB in the first round made a lot of sense.
The ST pick was just a rookie mistake and it's time to forget about it.

Agreed. If every GM that picked the wrong guy lost his job there would be no GMs. You draft on film, scouting reports, workouts, interviews and gut instinct and it's still a crapshoot. Nobody can ever know for sure how the drafted player will react when he gets in there with the best players in the country. They don't know if he will keep getting injured. They don't know if he'll self implode when he gets the money.

They just don't know.

"Imagine, the idea that a team would knowingly pass up drafting a GOAT to draft a Goat Farmer.
-Giovanni Carmazzi, QB class of 2000.

This isht happens all the time in this league.

Hopefully we get a decent comp pick for him.

The worst ever wasn't Solomon - it was AJ Jenkins who was drafted by Bozo the Baalke.

At least ST took the field and had a few bright moments.

Jenkins was a disaster right from the start.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
The worst ever wasn't Solomon - it was AJ Jenkins who was drafted by Bozo the Baalke.

At least ST took the field and had a few bright moments.

Jenkins was a disaster right from the start.

Sam Bowie is widely considered to be the biggest draft bust in NBA history not because he was the worst player but because of who was selected later in the draft and literally one pick later.

A guy by the name of Michael Jordan.

Thomas was selected 3rd overall in a draft that had Patrick Mahomes. To make matters worse the 49ers needed a QB and that player went on to beat us in the Super Bowl years later and is widely considered the most talented QB in the NFL.

Using the draft value chart, the 3rd overall pick could net 4 30th overall selections where we took Jenkins.

I agree Thomas' ability to play is better than Jenkins, Woods, Balmer, and so on.

But to even compare the magnitude of drafting Jenkins at 30 to Thomas at 3 overall is asinine to me.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Sam Bowie is widely considered to be the biggest draft bust in NBA history not because he was the worst player but because of who was selected later in the draft and literally one pick later.

A guy by the name of Michael Jordan.

Thomas was selected 3rd overall in a draft that had Patrick Mahomes. To make matters worse the 49ers needed a QB and that player went on to beat us in the Super Bowl years later and is widely considered the most talented QB in the NFL.

Using the draft value chart, the 3rd overall pick could net 4 30th overall selections where we took Jenkins.

I agree Thomas' ability to play is better than Jenkins, Woods, Balmer, and so on.

But to even compare the magnitude of drafting Jenkins at 30 to Thomas at 3 overall is asinine to me.

Preach.

And the last line sums it up perfectly.

It's funny how fans justify this pick or his career yet the team who drafted him doesnt

Originally posted by teylo31:
It's funny how fans justify this pick or his career yet the team who drafted him doesnt

People can't separate family tragedy from football, when it comes to the player and not the person, he was by far the worst pick this franchise has ever made