Solomon Thomas, DT

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Never understood why people root for former Niners when they were a massive disappointment/busts for us. But you guys do you.

It was a two-way street, IMO. He was not a good system fit and Saleh/Shanahan were not willing/able to modify the system to fit his skill set. Hence, a lot of the blame falls on those who made the decision to draft him in the first place. I can't call him a bust just because he was drafted into the wrong system. Too many other draft pundits rated him highly to believe he does not have the potential to do well in the right system. We shall see. For now, I am happy for the young man.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Never understood why people root for former Niners when they were a massive disappointment/busts for us. But you guys do you.

It was a two-way street, IMO. He was not a good system fit and Saleh/Shanahan were not willing/able to modify the system to fit his skill set. Hence, a lot of the blame falls on those who made the decision to draft him in the first place. I can't call him a bust just because he was drafted into the wrong system. Too many other draft pundits rated him highly to believe he does not have the potential to do well in the right system. We shall see. For now, I am happy for the young man.

Sure. Whatever the reason may be, the player simply was no good for us. I would think that would yield more resentment than being fans. Me personally, I will forever be bitter it didnt work out with us, but not bitter enough to hate on him. If he has success, good for him. But I also will not be actively rooting for a player who was horrible for us, and that is where I dont understand. Niner fans are actively rooting for a player who was bad for us AND is a Raider. I will never do that.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Never understood why people root for former Niners when they were a massive disappointment/busts for us. But you guys do you.

It was a two-way street, IMO. He was not a good system fit and Saleh/Shanahan were not willing/able to modify the system to fit his skill set. Hence, a lot of the blame falls on those who made the decision to draft him in the first place. I can't call him a bust just because he was drafted into the wrong system. Too many other draft pundits rated him highly to believe he does not have the potential to do well in the right system. We shall see. For now, I am happy for the young man.

Sure. Whatever the reason may be, the player simply was no good for us. I would think that would yield more resentment than being fans. Me personally, I will forever be bitter it didnt work out with us, but not bitter enough to hate on him. If he has success, good for him. But I also will not be actively rooting for a player who was horrible for us, and that is where I dont understand. Niner fans are actively rooting for a player who was bad for us AND is a Raider. I will never do that.

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Biggest bust in team history

being a nice guy gets you nowhere in life, not just football

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
He's led his team to a 2-0 start with a bit of help from Derek Carr. Nice Solly, it's good to see him doing well.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Biggest bust in team history

being a nice guy gets you nowhere in life, not just football

Way to date yourself.....

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Biggest bust in team history

being a nice guy gets you nowhere in life, not just football

Way to date yourself.....

What does age have to do with it? He's right.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Biggest bust in team history

being a nice guy gets you nowhere in life, not just football

There have been several bigger busts. Every coach and every era has seen players drafted high that didn't make it.

Originally posted by dj43:
Truth be told, there are always three teams I hope lose every week: Cowboys, Raiders and whoever is playing the 49ers. However, the players are humans with human problems and I cannot disregard the struggles others are having.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Biggest bust in team history

being a nice guy gets you nowhere in life, not just football

Way to date yourself.....

What does age have to do with it? He's right.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Never understood why people root for former Niners when they were a massive disappointment/busts for us. But you guys do you.

It was a two-way street, IMO. He was not a good system fit and Saleh/Shanahan were not willing/able to modify the system to fit his skill set. Hence, a lot of the blame falls on those who made the decision to draft him in the first place. I can't call him a bust just because he was drafted into the wrong system. Too many other draft pundits rated him highly to believe he does not have the potential to do well in the right system. We shall see. For now, I am happy for the young man.

Sure. Whatever the reason may be, the player simply was no good for us. I would think that would yield more resentment than being fans. Me personally, I will forever be bitter it didnt work out with us, but not bitter enough to hate on him. If he has success, good for him. But I also will not be actively rooting for a player who was horrible for us, and that is where I dont understand. Niner fans are actively rooting for a player who was bad for us AND is a Raider. I will never do that.

Not sure about you but I root for him because I thought he had potential but the coaching staff here simply F'd him over since the moment they drafted him which DJ asks the right question...why did we draft him with a top 3 pick if we weren't going to evolve the system to suite his strengths. I have similar concerns for Trey.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Never understood why people root for former Niners when they were a massive disappointment/busts for us. But you guys do you.

It was a two-way street, IMO. He was not a good system fit and Saleh/Shanahan were not willing/able to modify the system to fit his skill set. Hence, a lot of the blame falls on those who made the decision to draft him in the first place. I can't call him a bust just because he was drafted into the wrong system. Too many other draft pundits rated him highly to believe he does not have the potential to do well in the right system. We shall see. For now, I am happy for the young man.

Sure. Whatever the reason may be, the player simply was no good for us. I would think that would yield more resentment than being fans. Me personally, I will forever be bitter it didnt work out with us, but not bitter enough to hate on him. If he has success, good for him. But I also will not be actively rooting for a player who was horrible for us, and that is where I dont understand. Niner fans are actively rooting for a player who was bad for us AND is a Raider. I will never do that.

Not sure about you but I root for him because I thought he had potential but the coaching staff here simply F'd him over since the moment they drafted him which DJ asks the right question...why did we draft him with a top 3 pick if we weren't going to evolve the system to suite his strengths. I have similar concerns for Trey.

This. Great guy and hard worker whos had his share of life's downs for sure, but we asked him to play a position that wasn't his strength in a scheme that didn't promote his success.... for years... lol His succes with the Raiders shows that our coaches aren't all knowing sages to be blindly followed.

Interesting you say that about Trey....I certainly have more hope with Kyle on offense with a QB he can mold than a defender.... Time will tell.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Biggest bust in team history

being a nice guy gets you nowhere in life, not just football

There have been several bigger busts. Every coach and every era has seen players drafted high that didn't make it.

at least Thomas has played and had some good games. AJ Jenkins, Josh Garnett and Balmer were way worse picks.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
at least Thomas has played and had some good games. AJ Jenkins, Josh Garnett and Balmer were way worse picks.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
at least Thomas has played and had some good games. AJ Jenkins, Josh Garnett and Balmer were way worse picks.

If you strictly look at performance, sure.

If you take other things into consideration, such as draft positon (which CANNOT be overlooked), what we passed on, etc. it is absolutely the worse pick of my lifetime.