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Jul 27, 2019 at 2:35 PM
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
The Maiocco article today said that Saleh still sees Thomas as a DE on base downs and DT on 3rds..
translation: a rotating situational player.

I'm preparing for more of the same for Solomon. Sorry.

I mean, this was expected, right? There's nowhere else to put him in base. Not sure why people struggle to comprehend this.

As Phoenix mentioned, the change comes in nickel packages. They were using him outside in nickel(in the package I call snickel). Hopefully, he's inside now.
Jul 27, 2019 at 2:36 PM
Originally posted by John_Candy:
Was Thomas playing Big End or NT in base?

He plays Leo in base.
Jul 27, 2019 at 2:36 PM
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
The Maiocco article today said that Saleh still sees Thomas as a DE on base downs and DT on 3rds..
translation: a rotating situational player.

I'm preparing for more of the same for Solomon. Sorry.


What is wrong with that? Where else are you going to play him on base downs? Nose tackle? The difference is that they are no longer pushing him as an edge rusher on passing downs.

I guess it all depends on expectations. Certainly he won't be an every down player on the end with Bosa and Ford (baring injuries). I'm glad he'll get a shot in the middle on 3rds, but I was hoping for more based on his draft spot.
[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Jul 27, 2019 at 2:37 PM ]
Jul 27, 2019 at 2:41 PM
Originally posted by Heroism:
He plays Leo in base.

Thanks. I thought Ford would take over that spot.
Jul 27, 2019 at 2:43 PM
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
The Maiocco article today said that Saleh still sees Thomas as a DE on base downs and DT on 3rds..
translation: a rotating situational player.

I'm preparing for more of the same for Solomon. Sorry.

I mean, this was expected, right? There's nowhere else to put him in base. Not sure why people struggle to comprehend this.

As Phoenix mentioned, the change comes in nickel packages. They were using him outside in nickel(in the package I call snickel). Hopefully, he's inside now.

Are you saying AA is better inside on base than ST?
Jul 27, 2019 at 2:44 PM
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Are you saying AA is better inside on base than ST?

AA isn't inside in base. He plays big end, which isn't inside. Hence the end in big end.
Jul 27, 2019 at 3:06 PM
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Are you saying AA is better inside on base than ST?

AA isn't inside in base. He plays big end, which isn't inside. Hence the end in big end.

That's right, my bad. So who is next to Buck? Street, Mitchell's gone.

Anyway, no matter how you slice it, you don't pick a player that high if he's not really a 3 down starter. No way he starts on base between Ford, Bosa and AA. Plus, he's a decent run stopper I believe, but crappy at getting after the QBs on the outside.
[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Jul 27, 2019 at 3:09 PM ]
Jul 27, 2019 at 3:16 PM
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
That's right, my bad. So who is next to Buck?

DJ Jones

The biggest question I've had is how they're planning to use Ford and Bosa in base. There's a chance neither plays in base, which isn't really a big deal. As long as they play every single nickel snap, it's okay. But if Saleh keeps trotting out his "snickel" package in nickel with AA and Solly at the edges, then we've got a REAL f**king problem.
Jul 27, 2019 at 3:29 PM
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I guess it all depends on expectations. Certainly he won't be an every down player on the end with Bosa and Ford (baring injuries). I'm glad he'll get a shot in the middle on 3rds, but I was hoping for more based on his draft spot.

It's not a shot on 3rds, it's a shot in sub package defense ie nickel and dime. Teams are in sub packages at least 60% of their defensive snaps, and against teams like the Rams and Cards, we may line up in those sub packages 80%+.

There will be loads of opportunities for him to make an impact if he can win his way into the rotation.
Jul 27, 2019 at 3:30 PM
I don't see how FORD - THOMAS - BUCKO - BOSA can't be the BASE this year...
Jul 27, 2019 at 3:35 PM
Originally posted by John_Candy:
Originally posted by Heroism:
He plays Leo in base.

Thanks. I thought Ford would take over that spot.

Thomas played LEO in base last year but I see Bosa there in base and ST at BE. In wide 9, Ford and Bosa. Nickel, Ford and Bosa
Jul 27, 2019 at 3:36 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
DJ Jones

The biggest question I've had is how they're planning to use Ford and Bosa in base. There's a chance neither plays in base, which isn't really a big deal. As long as they play every single nickel snap, it's okay. But if Saleh keeps trotting out his "snickel" package in nickel with AA and Solly at the edges, then we've got a REAL f**king problem.
Pumped for DJJones to finally get some playing time assuming he earns it.
No way Saleh uses AA/Solly at nickel DE when he now has Ford and Bosa at his disposal. That'd be dumb. Can't wait to see how the DL rotation shakes out.
Jul 27, 2019 at 3:36 PM
Originally posted by 9moon:
I don't see how FORD - THOMAS - BUCKO - BOSA can't be the BASE this year...

Not enough size for a 60% running set. Of bosa and Ford are there, that's a wide 9 and you need some serious beef in the middle to protect LB's
Jul 27, 2019 at 4:02 PM
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by NCommand:

The Maiocco article today said that Saleh still sees Thomas as a DE on base downs and DT on 3rds..
translation: a rotating situational player.

I'm preparing for more of the same for Solomon. Sorry.

Considering how much they are paying Arik Armstead, and that DJ Jones' snaps will come mostly from base defense, I am not surprised to hear that. If ST can be effective, we can rest Buckner more and Buckner can be even more effective per snap.
Jul 27, 2019 at 4:04 PM
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by John_Candy:
Originally posted by Heroism:
He plays Leo in base.

Thanks. I thought Ford would take over that spot.

Thomas played LEO in base last year but I see Bosa there in base and ST at BE. In wide 9, Ford and Bosa. Nickel, Ford and Bosa

Makes sense. I liked what I saw from Thomas at BE as a rookie.
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