Ahkello Witherspoon, CB

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by mayo49:
What is it then - he's great in coverage, but his downfall is he face guards all the time.

He literally didn't get a finger on the receiver there, which is the biggest issue he's had going back to college. Not a single f**king finger. Red alarms should be going off your in head even if you're absolutely clueless about football. DBs are not taught to willingly give WRs free releases. Ahkello does this weekly.

I don't know how else to explain the not looking for the ball stuff. There are literally dozens of posts explaining why a DB is taught to NOT look for the ball until they're in the proper position(in phase) to control and disrupt a WRs route. This is what the NFL DB coaches teach. This isn't my opinion nor is it subjective. Imagine you're a DB turning around and looking for the ball without first being in the proper position and controlling a WR. All you're going to do is create even more space between yourself and the WR because you can't keep track of the WR and the ball at the same time. Furthermore, have you tried turning your head around while running? It slows you down. This is why you NEED to be in phase before looking for the ball.

Saleh, Sherman and others literally have stated, dozens of times, that Ahkello needs to work on winning at the LOS.

He does a good job keeping with the receiver. Most of the completions against him the ball literally almost hits him in the back of the helmet. If he would just turn around for a split second when the ball is about to arrive, he can make a play on the ball without gaining any separation with the receiver.

Dude it's press coverage and he doesn't lay a finger on the Wr. You should probably let this one go.

honestly..... ok You guys know its a passing NFL!! So go ahead cut this guy or Trade him

Originally posted by 24karat49er:

Originally posted by jersey49er:
Thank god for the Kittle pick bc the rest turned out to be bad choices

Aside from kittle, warner, and greenlaw our front office sucks at drafting. Bosa, mcglinchy and Deebo dont count although we could have got greedy williams and traded back into the 2nd for Deebo or Aj brown.

ya aside from kittle, greenlaw, mcg, bosa, warner, deebo, wishnowsky, aiyuk, taylor, & dj jones, they all suck

Shermand and Saleh have explained this ton of times. Here's an interview with Richard Sherman after the Vikings game in 2018.



The very first question is about this play with Ahkello:



Sherman: He gotta put himself in a better position...

Q: Should he have turned around and looked for the ball?

Sherman: He needs to stay on top and then he'll have an opportunity to look. If he would have look there, he would have still been behind. The receiver gave him a nice little shove and got on top of him. So if he would have look right there, it would have still been a touchdown. So, he has to play more into the receiver and get himself in a better position.

Anyone not understanding why he's not supposed to simply "look for the ball" without being in the proper position is either a troll or dumb.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Shermand and Saleh have explained this ton of times. Here's an interview with Richard Sherman after the Vikings game in 2018.



The very first question is about this play with Ahkello:



Sherman: He gotta put himself in a better position...

Q: Should he have turned around and looked for the ball?

Sherman: He needs to stay on top and then he'll have an opportunity to look. If he would have look there, he would have still been behind. The receiver gave him a nice little shove and got on top of him. So if he would have look right there, it would have still been a touchdown. So, he has to play more into the receiver and get himself in a better position.

Like, if you don't understand why he's not supposed to simply "look for the ball" without being in the proper position, you're either a troll or dumb.

That's a stupid comment - you make no sense. Let's just leave it at that.

I don't understand the FOs thinking in trying to trade Witherspoon with only Jason Verrett as their backup. They do know that Verrett has never played a full 16 game season in his career, right? That the only time he played double digit games was in 2015 five years ago, right? I don't get their thinking here considering the importance of CB play in today's game. It's almost as if they think their pass rush will bail out any CB we throw out there even after seeing how that failed in the second half of last season when our DL was decimated with injuries.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Shermand and Saleh have explained this ton of times. Here's an interview with Richard Sherman after the Vikings game in 2018.



The very first question is about this play with Ahkello:



Sherman: He gotta put himself in a better position...

Q: Should he have turned around and looked for the ball?

Sherman: He needs to stay on top and then he'll have an opportunity to look. If he would have look there, he would have still been behind. The receiver gave him a nice little shove and got on top of him. So if he would have look right there, it would have still been a touchdown. So, he has to play more into the receiver and get himself in a better position.

Like, if you don't understand why he's not supposed to simply "look for the ball" without being in the proper position, you're either a troll or dumb.

he shoulda smashed that y button

Originally posted by SFrush:
Dude it's press coverage and he doesn't lay a finger on the Wr. You should probably let this one go.

Lol, right? Ahkello is literally in press alignment...

none of you actually understand corner play let's be honest

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 24karat49er:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Thank god for the Kittle pick bc the rest turned out to be bad choices

Aside from kittle, warner, and greenlaw our front office sucks at drafting. Bosa, mcglinchy and Deebo dont count although we could have got greedy williams and traded back into the 2nd for Deebo or Aj brown.

ya aside from kittle, greenlaw, mcg, bosa, warner, deebo, wishnowsky, aiyuk, taylor, & dj jones, they all suck

Taylor is always injured and Aiyuk looks good but hasnt played a snap yet i like Aiyuk hes sick but i still feel Ceedee lamb should have been our guy. But hes a cowgirl and Aiyuks here so i gotta root for Aiyuk. And we should have gotten a corner instead of a punter in the 4th last year we could have got wishnowsky later n even if we didnt theres other punters. We needed secondary help last year and we still need it this year. Maybe if we draft a corner in last years draft he makes a play in the super bowl. The same way that malcolm butler did vs seattle in the super bowl. I dont get why some fans cant see our flaws. U dont have to kiss our gm's ass after every pick. Lynch makes a lot of questionable decisions on draft day. We didnt even look at corner this year smh.

Originally posted by RasSuar:
I don't understand the FOs thinking in trying to trade Witherspoon with only Jason Verrett as their backup. They do know that Verrett has never played a full 16 game season in his career, right? That the only time he played double digit games was in 2015 five years ago, right? I don't get their thinking here considering the importance of CB play in today's game. It's almost as if they think their pass rush will bail out our piddling CBs even after seeing how that failed in the second half of last season when our DL was decimated with injuries.

Verrett is an injury concern - I hope they're not counting on him being healthy all year.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
none of you actually understand corner play let's be honest

Never claimed to be an expert - but, if the guy is in position to make a play on the ball, I don't get why he doesn't do it.

Is there anyway we can pull xavier howard from the dolphins theyre trading everyone else anyways. Id rather trade our draft picks for good players then let Lynch draft and ignore positions of need. Only problem is Howard will cost but hes a certified pro bowler.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
none of you actually understand corner play let's be honest

Never claimed to be an expert - but, if the guy is in position to make a play on the ball, I don't get why he doesn't do it.

i feel you

Originally posted by 24karat49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 24karat49er:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Thank god for the Kittle pick bc the rest turned out to be bad choices

Aside from kittle, warner, and greenlaw our front office sucks at drafting. Bosa, mcglinchy and Deebo dont count although we could have got greedy williams and traded back into the 2nd for Deebo or Aj brown.

ya aside from kittle, greenlaw, mcg, bosa, warner, deebo, wishnowsky, aiyuk, taylor, & dj jones, they all suck

Taylor is always injured and Aiyuk looks good but hasnt played a snap yet i like Aiyuk hes sick but i still feel Ceedee lamb should have been our guy. But hes a cowgirl and Aiyuks here so i gotta root for Aiyuk. And we should have gotten a corner instead of a punter in the 4th last year we could have got wishnowsky later n even if we didnt theres other punters. We needed secondary help last year and we still need it this year. Maybe if we draft a corner in last years draft he makes a play in the super bowl. The same way that malcolm butler did vs seattle in the super bowl. I dont get why some fans cant see our flaws. U dont have to kiss our gm's ass after every pick. Lynch makes a lot of questionable decisions on draft day. We didnt even look at corner this year smh.

What corner should we have drafted in the 4th last year? I'm not aware of anybody that was drafted after we picked Wish that's better than Moseley.