QB CJ Beathard - signs with Jacksonville

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Blindfury:
QB was fine. The problem was the D giving up almost 40 pts. Sick and tired of people re-writing history to fit their agenda.

The reffing was also atrocious. Lamichael James fumbling inside the 20. So many people to blame but it's easy to blame the QB I guess when it's Kap.

Kap should be the last to be blamed. He was a very raw QB who was following HaRoman instructions. Hell, he even would have run in that TD as well. The kid played his heart out.

Take away the fumble we had (that was Fwd progress in SB but wasn't against giants when we did it ) or the mugging on the kickoff return on who was it, Miller or the helmet to helmet twice on crabs or the offside on the Ravens d that wasn't called and the ravens dude pushing a ref and not getting ejected and all the other b******t calls and who knows!

But NFL doesn't fix games

Right... hard not to lean towards that direction with that B.S... with Goodell a big Ravens fan.

PS... go C.J. LOL

Don't think it was fixed. I think Goodell told the refs to let everything go on both sides. It was the year of Fail Mary and the replacement refs. I think the league didn't want a game with a lot of flags, so they "let them play" both ways. Lots of uncalled stuff in that game, small and large.

Every game won or lost by a touch down or less comes down to dodgy refereeing decisions; one way or another.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
How did we not win it? How about a HC and OC that were just terrible, and literally pizzed a W away. Blame it on our QB, but to me that was just a 4+ FAIL on playcalling. Our HC and his OC choked. Period.

Im not talking about the sb. Im talking about the two years before, with our d. Man we were good. So good. Beter than seattle good.

Don't mind paso, he writes some of the dumbest s**t Ive ever read.

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

How did we not win it? How about a HC and OC that were just terrible, and literally pizzed a W away. Blame it on our QB, but to me that was just a 4+ FAIL on playcalling. Our HC and his OC choked. Period.

Im not talking about the sb. Im talking about the two years before, with our d. Man we were good. So good. Beter than seattle good.

Don't mind paso, he writes some of the dumbest s**t Ive ever read.

Well two years before the SB was 2010 season before Harbs lol.

The real dark ages.

Really nice listen on Beathard and others from our draft.

https://audioboom.com/channel/locked-on-49ers

Already, the 49ers like what they see of Beathard and his potential.

"He's done a nice job," quarterbacks coach Rich Scangarello recently told Cam Inman of the Bay Area News Group. "Everything we possibly could have asked of the guy, he's embraced it. He definitely has a confidence that comes from within ... in a very positive way."

I feel like we were fed propaganda about this kid. I'll hold off forming an opinion of his play until I actually see him play in a game, not college tape, not practice nor the ever popular non contact drills.

Originally posted by PacTiger:

I feel like we were fed propaganda about this kid. I'll hold off forming an opinion of his play until I actually see him play in a game, not college tape, not practice nor the ever popular non contact drills.

Yeah, when you sift through everything, esp. from coaches, you get a guy who's got a real aura of confidence about him, is tough as nails, processes at a very high level, has above average arm strength, is mobile enough to translate into the play action and bootleg offense here, pro-style translates perfectly here, etc. but in terms of measurables and due to small sample sizes, injuries and loss of talent, is at the back end compared to other QB's.

He'll need to refine his footwork and technique since he played most of his career under duress which, naturally, has a big effect on accuracy and perceived arm strength.

In short, I think Kyle genuinely has a guy he can mold over the next two years, who like Cousins, could start to see some real action at the end of next season for long term success.

It's too early to tell what his floor or ceiling is.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by PacTiger:
I feel like we were fed propaganda about this kid. I'll hold off forming an opinion of his play until I actually see him play in a game, not college tape, not practice nor the ever popular non contact drills.

Yeah, when you sift through everything, esp. from coaches, you get a guy who's got a real aura of confidence about him, is tough as nails, processes at a very high level, has above average arm strength, is mobile enough to translate into the play action and bootleg offense here, pro-style translates perfectly here, etc. but in terms of measurables and due to small sample sizes, injuries and loss of talent, is at the back end compared to other QB's.

He'll need to refine his footwork and technique since he played most of his career under duress which, naturally, has a big effect on accuracy and perceived arm strength.

In short, I think Kyle genuinely has a guy he can mold over the next two years, who like Cousins, could start to see some real action at the end of next season for long term success.

It's too early to tell what his floor or ceiling is.

well, considering what we've had, I don't think his floor could be any worse...haha

https://twitter.com/mshamburger1/status/683785977555357696
or

tried to post the GIF off the link - it's totally worth a watch, hahaha. If you can figure out how to post it, go for it!

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by PacTiger:

I feel like we were fed propaganda about this kid. I'll hold off forming an opinion of his play until I actually see him play in a game, not college tape, not practice nor the ever popular non contact drills.

Yeah, when you sift through everything, esp. from coaches, you get a guy who's got a real aura of confidence about him, is tough as nails, processes at a very high level, has above average arm strength, is mobile enough to translate into the play action and bootleg offense here, pro-style translates perfectly here, etc. but in terms of measurables and due to small sample sizes, injuries and loss of talent, is at the back end compared to other QB's.

He'll need to refine his footwork and technique since he played most of his career under duress which, naturally, has a big effect on accuracy and perceived arm strength.

In short, I think Kyle genuinely has a guy he can mold over the next two years, who like Cousins, could start to see some real action at the end of next season for long term success.

It's too early to tell what his floor or ceiling is.

well, considering what we've had, I don't think his floor could be any worse...haha

https://twitter.com/mshamburger1/status/683785977555357696
or

tried to post the GIF off the link - it's totally worth a watch, hahaha. If you can figure out how to post it, go for it!

LMAO! We all know that gif from a still. We know the standards are very low (visual evidence)...but I'm still unsure what Beathards personal floor/ceiling is.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by PacTiger:
I feel like we were fed propaganda about this kid. I'll hold off forming an opinion of his play until I actually see him play in a game, not college tape, not practice nor the ever popular non contact drills.

Yeah, when you sift through everything, esp. from coaches, you get a guy who's got a real aura of confidence about him, is tough as nails, processes at a very high level, has above average arm strength, is mobile enough to translate into the play action and bootleg offense here, pro-style translates perfectly here, etc. but in terms of measurables and due to small sample sizes, injuries and loss of talent, is at the back end compared to other QB's.

He'll need to refine his footwork and technique since he played most of his career under duress which, naturally, has a big effect on accuracy and perceived arm strength.

In short, I think Kyle genuinely has a guy he can mold over the next two years, who like Cousins, could start to see some real action at the end of next season for long term success.

It's too early to tell what his floor or ceiling is.

well, considering what we've had, I don't think his floor could be any worse...haha

https://twitter.com/mshamburger1/status/683785977555357696
or

tried to post the GIF off the link - it's totally worth a watch, hahaha. If you can figure out how to post it, go for it!

LMAO! We all know that gif from a still. We know the standards are very low (visual evidence)...but I'm still unsure what Beathards personal floor/ceiling is.

Oh no, haha, the GIF was of Gabbert....seriously, watch that sucker, hahahaha

I was at that game...had a 12 pack by that point and still saw he should have thrown the damn ball. Just ask Harbs though, it wasn't Kap's fault lol.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Oh no, haha, the GIF was of Gabbert....seriously, watch that sucker, hahahaha

Bwahaha...same concept, right? LOL

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NoelC:
We're you watching from 2005-2008? 7 different oc's Defensive head coaches thinking they knew the offense .thats the definition of no talent on the team . Let alone . His throwing arm was squashed by a Seattle dline in 07. C'mon let's not get silly lol

I've been watching for 25 plus yrs buzzy....he's had the same staff mainly in place in KC and yet he puts up mid tier numbers. He's not a top 10 QB never has and never will be. Imo top 10 qbs make players around them better, who the hell has smith made better lol?

I mean they love him so much in KC that they gave up a s**t ton of picks for mahomes

Like I said you want to throw your love for alex out there then go to NFL talk. Time to take the alex smith jersey off, he's been gone for 5 yrs ...move on.

Well, that shows you that Mike Nolan didn't know jack about QB's when he picked Alex vs Aaron. (hindsight being 20/20 of course) Let's hope a lot of defensive head coaches (and maybe even some offensive HC's) will make similar mistakes and a Franchise QB will drop to us like Aaron did for Green Bay in the 2018 draft.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
How did we not win it? How about a HC and OC that were just terrible, and literally pizzed a W away. Blame it on our QB, but to me that was just a 4+ FAIL on playcalling. Our HC and his OC choked. Period.

You can't just blame them. If you're talking about the turnover on downs at the end of super bowl that ended with a play that was a fade to crabs then it's more than just the coaching staffs fault. Yes, some of those plays were poor choices because I don't think a single fade in the corner of
He endzone worked during their entire tenure here but there was also previous plays that had people wide open, like Delani walked etc. so it was poor plays and poor reads by our qb and bad defense by our defense. They were injured but still didn't do a very good job, especially since they were historically good until the injuries happened

It was our staple...totally ill prepared to start the game, wasted a whole half, refs let the Ravens get away with murder because they hated Jim, Jim calls a panicky T.O. because once again, he couldn't get the play off on time, outcoached again, didn't recognize they were running a zero blitz for 4 straight plays so we had no easy outlet even after the T.O., CK stuck to the one read every time, etc.

That whole series was a micocasm of the same issues from coaching to play calling to no QB development.

What NC just said...was exactly what i meant. And no, i am NOT a fan of harbaw. LIked him for two yrs and then he proved he couldn't play call, couldn't develop players, couldn't develop his qb and was an immature kid coaching in the bigs when he belonged in the college ranks. All is well now as he is safely tucked away in Ann Arbor. I am glad for him, but i am delighted for us. Tomsul and Chip? Just bad memories to go along wiht the rest of the last 16-17 yrs. Gone...and forgotten.

Doc, Well, we'll agree to disagree. I liked Harbaugh because he wins. He's one of the very few 49er coaches that took us to the big dance. Not very many 49er coaches have done that in the past. Having said that, I think a big part of Harbaugh's failure was due to Baalke. Again, we can agree to disagree.

As for CJ, I'm actually hoping to see Nick Mullens too. I'm betting Nick and CJ will be similar in playing style. Both are probably very similar in athleticism to Kirk Cousins - which is apparently Kyle's kind of ideal QB. Posted On one of the threads is the entire 1981 regular season 49er vs Dallas game and it's amazing how Montana executed those fakes to literally wrongfoot the Dallas defense time and time again to get TD's. I'm looking for Kyle to train both CJ and Nick Mullens to be accomplished play fakers in Kyle's system.