QB CJ Beathard - signs with Jacksonville

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

It seems like Herm Edwards, we're gonna play, to win, the game and we will be taking shots and going for W's this year!

NFL effed up letting a Shanny getting Goodwin on the cheap. I'm betting Goodwin gets 650+ yards. Robinson has looked real good as well... Stay confident CJ, you got all the time to play loose and eff around making magic in pre-season.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

It seems like Herm Edwards, we're gonna play, to win, the game and we will be taking shots and going for W's this year!

NFL effed up letting a Shanny getting Goodwin on the cheap. I'm betting Goodwin gets 650+ yards. Robinson has looked real good as well... Stay confident CJ, you got all the time to play loose and eff around making magic in pre-season.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

It seems like Herm Edwards, we're gonna play, to win, the game and we will be taking shots and going for W's this year!

NFL effed up letting a Shanny getting Goodwin on the cheap. I'm betting Goodwin gets 650+ yards. Robinson has looked real good as well... Stay confident CJ, you got all the time to play loose and eff around making magic in pre-season.

If that happens....well, we will be thinking a lot more than 2-4 Ws.

My posts are so hard Paso gotta quote me 3x!

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Let the kid develop and gain confidence and learn the good and the bad. See the game and realize some things. You throw him before his foundation is set and he gets rocked, that will lead him down a spiral or at least backwards.

Hoyer is better than people think, but like everyone said, he is fragile. Rather the kid get some game time at the end of the season when he gets more confident and better understanding of the system. Better understanding of his team mates. No rush. Gest back to developing your QB like Aaron was and Steve and Joe before him.

Originally posted by mayo49:

I think CJ jumps past Barkely for the #2 spot.

I agree

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by mayo49:

I think CJ jumps past Barkely for the #2 spot.

I agree

I would be happy with this

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

It seems like Herm Edwards, we're gonna play, to win, the game and we will be taking shots and going for W's this year!

NFL effed up letting a Shanny getting Goodwin on the cheap. I'm betting Goodwin gets 650+ yards. Robinson has looked real good as well... Stay confident CJ, you got all the time to play loose and eff around making magic in pre-season.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

It seems like Herm Edwards, we're gonna play, to win, the game and we will be taking shots and going for W's this year!

NFL effed up letting a Shanny getting Goodwin on the cheap. I'm betting Goodwin gets 650+ yards. Robinson has looked real good as well... Stay confident CJ, you got all the time to play loose and eff around making magic in pre-season.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

It seems like Herm Edwards, we're gonna play, to win, the game and we will be taking shots and going for W's this year!

NFL effed up letting a Shanny getting Goodwin on the cheap. I'm betting Goodwin gets 650+ yards. Robinson has looked real good as well... Stay confident CJ, you got all the time to play loose and eff around making magic in pre-season.

If that happens....well, we will be thinking a lot more than 2-4 Ws.

My posts are so hard Paso gotta quote me 3x!

Ok, how did that happen? U R good Smokes, but not 3x

Originally posted by WildBill:
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Let the kid develop and gain confidence and learn the good and the bad. See the game and realize some things. You throw him before his foundation is set and he gets rocked, that will lead him down a spiral or at least backwards.

Hoyer is better than people think, but like everyone said, he is fragile. Rather the kid get some game time at the end of the season when he gets more confident and better understanding of the system. Better understanding of his team mates. No rush. Gest back to developing your QB like Aaron was and Steve and Joe before him.

I agree, but it's surreal that he's a third round pick and we had another QB that was a third round pick that did very well here, and that QB was picked by a so called offensive genius. The comparisons are hard not to make with that other QB. Even I'm not ready to compare the two yet but - man if history could repeat itself, wouldn't that make everyone's year here!

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Observers are noticing that since the pads came out, Beathard has been dominating the pre-determined backup pool. Would be something special to see Beathard go into the second preseason game as the #2. Kyle and John are in a luxurious position, Hoyer's gaurantees are paper thin, and Hoyer could crack to pieces under pressures of 2018.

CJ knows he has nothing to lose, and this sort of confidence could have him starting in week six (aka Hoyer's statistical cut-off point per season). CJ is gonna reunite the families, and take the grove back!

I think you, or another poster said something similar. Something like, Hoyer, BeatHard, and Mullins as 1, 2, 3 going into the regular season and Barkley would be released if all goes well with BeatHard. And next year Kirk Cousin? If we had something like Cousin's and BeatHard, wouldn't that be something. Then again, 2nd year - if BeatHard does well, do we really need Kirk? Talk about a very deep position if we had those two.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:

Observers are noticing that since the pads came out, Beathard has been dominating the pre-determined backup pool. Would be something special to see Beathard go into the second preseason game as the #2. Kyle and John are in a luxurious position, Hoyer's gaurantees are paper thin, and Hoyer could crack to pieces under pressures of 2018.

CJ knows he has nothing to lose, and this sort of confidence could have him starting in week six (aka Hoyer's statistical cut-off point per season). CJ is gonna reunite the families, and take the grove back!

I think you, or another poster said something similar. Something like, Hoyer, BeatHard, and Mullins as 1, 2, 3 going into the regular season and Barkley would be released if all goes well with BeatHard. And next year Kirk Cousin? If we had something like Cousin's and BeatHard, wouldn't that be something. Then again, 2nd year - if BeatHard does well, do we really need Kirk? Talk about a very deep position if we had those two.

Now you guys are just getting a case of training camp fever.

Didn't Kyle gently criticize Lynch for drafting Beathard too high and putting too much pressure on the kid? Didn't it take Matt Ryan a whole year to really get his thought processes around Kyle's offense? Hasn't Kyle talked about giving Beathard time to develop?

If you make Beathard number two, you have to be prepared to rely on him the next down. Shanahan will absolutely protect him from that when he knows the thought processes are not ready, and if Matt Ryan took,a whole year to get there, no rookie is likely going to beat that.

Do you suppose those second team reps are to train him with actual NFL players and team mates, instead of night watchmen next month?

Look,for Beathard to be the inactive number three most of this season, and perhaps get in some well rehearsed spot plays during the second half of the season.

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Now you guys are just getting a case of training camp fever.

Didn't Kyle gently criticize Lynch for drafting Beathard too high and putting too much pressure on the kid? Didn't it take Matt Ryan a whole year to really get his thought processes around Kyle's offense? Hasn't Kyle talked about giving Beathard time to develop?

If you make Beathard number two, you have to be prepared to rely on him the next down. Shanahan will absolutely protect him from that when he knows the thought processes are not ready, and if Matt Ryan took,a whole year to get there, no rookie is likely going to beat that.

Do you suppose those second team reps are to train him with actual NFL players and team mates, instead of night watchmen next month?

Look,for Beathard to be the inactive number three most of this season, and perhaps get in some well rehearsed spot plays during the second half of the season.

Pretty much this. Even if Beathard looks good that is more indicative towards affecting the QB situation next year, not this one. I can't see any scenario where Barkley doesn't come in as the backup.

Beathard is definitely one of the best QB last names I've ever heard, I just love saying it! BEAT HARRRRDD

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Observers are noticing that since the pads came out, Beathard has been dominating the pre-determined backup pool. Would be something special to see Beathard go into the second preseason game as the #2. Kyle and John are in a luxurious position, Hoyer's gaurantees are paper thin, and Hoyer could crack to pieces under pressures of 2018.

CJ knows he has nothing to lose, and this sort of confidence could have him starting in week six (aka Hoyer's statistical cut-off point per season). CJ is gonna reunite the families, and take the grove back!

I think you, or another poster said something similar. Something like, Hoyer, BeatHard, and Mullins as 1, 2, 3 going into the regular season and Barkley would be released if all goes well with BeatHard. And next year Kirk Cousin? If we had something like Cousin's and BeatHard, wouldn't that be something. Then again, 2nd year - if BeatHard does well, do we really need Kirk? Talk about a very deep position if we had those two.

Now you guys are just getting a case of training camp fever.

Didn't Kyle gently criticize Lynch for drafting Beathard too high and putting too much pressure on the kid? Didn't it take Matt Ryan a whole year to really get his thought processes around Kyle's offense? Hasn't Kyle talked about giving Beathard time to develop?

If you make Beathard number two, you have to be prepared to rely on him the next down. Shanahan will absolutely protect him from that when he knows the thought processes are not ready, and if Matt Ryan took,a whole year to get there, no rookie is likely going to beat that.

Do you suppose those second team reps are to train him with actual NFL players and team mates, instead of night watchmen next month?

Look,for Beathard to be the inactive number three most of this season, and perhaps get in some well rehearsed spot plays during the second half of the season.

The pressure is a bit different when there are no expectations for the team this year. In a way, it is the perfect situation to learn on the fly. Seems like he is strong mentally, so if he took some lumps as a starter this season I don't think it would linger with him. Time will tell.

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Observers are noticing that since the pads came out, Beathard has been dominating the pre-determined backup pool. Would be something special to see Beathard go into the second preseason game as the #2. Kyle and John are in a luxurious position, Hoyer's gaurantees are paper thin, and Hoyer could crack to pieces under pressures of 2018.

CJ knows he has nothing to lose, and this sort of confidence could have him starting in week six (aka Hoyer's statistical cut-off point per season). CJ is gonna reunite the families, and take the grove back!

I think you, or another poster said something similar. Something like, Hoyer, BeatHard, and Mullins as 1, 2, 3 going into the regular season and Barkley would be released if all goes well with BeatHard. And next year Kirk Cousin? If we had something like Cousin's and BeatHard, wouldn't that be something. Then again, 2nd year - if BeatHard does well, do we really need Kirk? Talk about a very deep position if we had those two.

Now you guys are just getting a case of training camp fever.

Didn't Kyle gently criticize Lynch for drafting Beathard too high and putting too much pressure on the kid? Didn't it take Matt Ryan a whole year to really get his thought processes around Kyle's offense? Hasn't Kyle talked about giving Beathard time to develop?

If you make Beathard number two, you have to be prepared to rely on him the next down. Shanahan will absolutely protect him from that when he knows the thought processes are not ready, and if Matt Ryan took,a whole year to get there, no rookie is likely going to beat that.

Do you suppose those second team reps are to train him with actual NFL players and team mates, instead of night watchmen next month?

Look,for Beathard to be the inactive number three most of this season, and perhaps get in some well rehearsed spot plays during the second half of the season.

The pressure is a bit different when there are no expectations for the team this year. In a way, it is the perfect situation to learn on the fly. Seems like he is strong mentally, so if he took some lumps as a starter this season I don't think it would linger with him. Time will tell.

Agree that it's too soon whether or not he's #2 and beats out Barkley, but here's a quote for Kyle and he doesn't talk about CJ as a 3rd stringer in my opinion. As for me, until I see him play in pre-season, I agree he's #3 for now.

https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/8/1/16073794/cj-beathard-49ers-quarterback-depth-chart-second-team

Just watching C.J. you can tell without even talking to him, watching him on tape the way he processes things. He'll play in that pocket with a lot of people around him and he can get through progression. He's a very quick thinker. He'll react and let it rip. He prepares very hard. He is very intelligent. There's a knack that certain people have in the pocket where they don't sit there and just freeze paralysis by analysis. That's one thing we saw in C.J. in college and the more he gets comfortable with the offense and stuff, he's shown it already, but the more reps and stuff he gets, that's one of his huge strengths."

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:

Observers are noticing that since the pads came out, Beathard has been dominating the pre-determined backup pool. Would be something special to see Beathard go into the second preseason game as the #2. Kyle and John are in a luxurious position, Hoyer's gaurantees are paper thin, and Hoyer could crack to pieces under pressures of 2018.

CJ knows he has nothing to lose, and this sort of confidence could have him starting in week six (aka Hoyer's statistical cut-off point per season). CJ is gonna reunite the families, and take the grove back!

I think you, or another poster said something similar. Something like, Hoyer, BeatHard, and Mullins as 1, 2, 3 going into the regular season and Barkley would be released if all goes well with BeatHard. And next year Kirk Cousin? If we had something like Cousin's and BeatHard, wouldn't that be something. Then again, 2nd year - if BeatHard does well, do we really need Kirk? Talk about a very deep position if we had those two.

Now you guys are just getting a case of training camp fever.

Didn't Kyle gently criticize Lynch for drafting Beathard too high and putting too much pressure on the kid? Didn't it take Matt Ryan a whole year to really get his thought processes around Kyle's offense? Hasn't Kyle talked about giving Beathard time to develop?

If you make Beathard number two, you have to be prepared to rely on him the next down. Shanahan will absolutely protect him from that when he knows the thought processes are not ready, and if Matt Ryan took,a whole year to get there, no rookie is likely going to beat that.

Do you suppose those second team reps are to train him with actual NFL players and team mates, instead of night watchmen next month?

Look,for Beathard to be the inactive number three most of this season, and perhaps get in some well rehearsed spot plays during the second half of the season.

The pressure is a bit different when there are no expectations for the team this year. In a way, it is the perfect situation to learn on the fly. Seems like he is strong mentally, so if he took some lumps as a starter this season I don't think it would linger with him. Time will tell.

I couldn't disagree more.

If the game counts, the pressure is on. You may not care if we drop a given game, but the coaches sure do, and they can't expect each player's best effort if they let any player think they don't care. That's just not how competitive sports works. Coaches and self respect comes from never stop caring, even in lost situations.

And confidence comes with success. Failure comes with confusion. The object at this point is to gain confidence that he can do it.

CJ.

Originally posted by Heroism:
CJ.

Rookie QB C.J. Beathard took the second-team O the length of the field vs. first-team D, converted FG. His best practice of training camp

— Kevin Jones (@Mr_KevinJones) August 4, 2017