Lmfao at people who say he doesn't have an arm. Scouts at his pro day said he was throwing bullets.
Either way not a total bad pick. I know the Zone was in love with Petterman but this guy has tape. 2015 he was a stud. This year injuries to him and his teammates played a role that the production but either way we added depth. What we need too.
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QB CJ Beathard - signs with Jacksonville
Apr 29, 2017 at 7:43 AM
- MRNINESEVEN
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Apr 29, 2017 at 7:43 AM
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Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by 49ERFANb4Uwas:
This is a great breakdown thanks!
The 5:40 minute mark: dude is moving the defense.
Been so long to see someone competent in a pro offense, the little nuances seemed special
Apr 29, 2017 at 7:45 AM
- FrozeReactionZ
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Im glad im not the only one seeing potential greatness from this particular pick
Apr 29, 2017 at 7:45 AM
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Originally posted by GlenCoffeesNuts:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
He looks more like 'The Bro'
Apr 29, 2017 at 7:47 AM
- qnnhan7
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Originally posted by FrozeReactionZ:Im glad im not the only one seeing potential greatness from this particular pick
Woah slow your roll there We are looking for functional with the least amount of mistakes first.
Apr 29, 2017 at 7:53 AM
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Originally posted by Lobo49er:Originally posted by NorthBay49er:100% a shanny pick
Lynch said he knows this was a reach but shanny liked him
Lynch didn't say that lol.
Yeah he did
Said the rest of the league had lower grade on him
Apr 29, 2017 at 7:55 AM
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Originally posted by Lobo49er:Let me see if I have this right.
Kyle tells the Texans to get Schaub.
Kyle tells the Browns to get Derek Carr.
Kyle tells the Browns to get Garoppolo.
Kyle tells the Redskins to get Cousins,
We hire Kyle.
We then ask Kyle to tell us a QB to get, because he seems to do that pretty well.
Kyle says CJ.
We get CJ.
Our QB guru just chose a QB. Now, at this point, you'd think the fan base would be ecstatic, or at least accepting. Uh, no.
The webzone is a fascinating place.
lol this
Apr 29, 2017 at 7:58 AM
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Originally posted by NorthBay49er:Originally posted by Lobo49er:Originally posted by NorthBay49er:100% a shanny pick
Lynch said he knows this was a reach but shanny liked him
Lynch didn't say that lol.
Yeah he did
Said the rest of the league had lower grade on him
Link? He did say they're gonna be aggressive in the presser
Apr 29, 2017 at 8:00 AM
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Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:Sorry if my post was confusing to r contradictory. I meant I grade the pick bad, but have very low confidence in my grade
I dont like it either, especially trading up for him but I'll keep an open mind. At least Beathard is a lot more ready to contribute as an NFL QB than Driskel was.
Apr 29, 2017 at 8:01 AM
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Originally posted by NorthBay49er:Originally posted by Lobo49er:Originally posted by NorthBay49er:100% a shanny pick
Lynch said he knows this was a reach but shanny liked him
Lynch didn't say that lol.
Yeah he did
Said the rest of the league had lower grade on him
Can you show me where he said this please?
Apr 29, 2017 at 8:01 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by NorthBay49er:Originally posted by Lobo49er:Originally posted by NorthBay49er:100% a shanny pick
Lynch said he knows this was a reach but shanny liked him
Lynch didn't say that lol.
Yeah he did
Said the rest of the league had lower grade on him
Link? He did say they're gonna be aggressive in the presser
He said it in that presser
Apr 29, 2017 at 8:05 AM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Well, strategically, no doubt, passing on Trubisky and getting Beathard is a sure sign Cousins is our guy next year. So next year, it'll be Cousins - Hoyer - Beathard.
CJ comes from a pro style offense and like Lynch says, does a ton of what Kyle's offense will already ask of him but he needs a year or two of development and certainly won't threaten the front end of the QB depth chart this or next year.
Originally posted by genus49:
I think it depends on where we're picking and who is available in the draft.
If we have a top 5 pick and Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen and Josh Allen all have great seasons and declare...we're going heavy after one of them and I think us getting ammo next year is mostly with that QB class in mind.
This is why there's no reason to be upset with the pick. Cousins, a #1 pick are still on the table next year. If Shanny is wrong about Trubisky it's 4 years in the toilet, if he's wrong about Beathard you won't even know because chances are he'll never touch the field.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Apr 29, 2017 at 8:05 AM ]
Apr 29, 2017 at 8:16 AM
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Steelers Depot usually does pretty good player breakdowns, this is their pros and cons for Beathard.
16 C.J. Beathard / QB / Iowa: 6'2", 219lbs
The Good:
– Played the majority of his snaps from under-center and is very comfortable performing traditional drop backs
– Good Mechanics: smooth and compact throwing motion; stays balanced and ready to throw during his drop backs; balanced movements when shuffling in the pocket
– Showed consistent accuracy and good zip on short/intermediate routes
– Demonstrated decent touch on intermediate fade routes
– Has enough athleticism to scramble behind the line of scrimmage
– Stands tall in the pocket
– Safe Player who will frequently hit his check down or throw the ball away
The Bad
-Poor Pocket Awareness – often took brutal sacks that were avoidable
– Was rarely effective when taking shots deep down field
– Played in a limited passing scheme – Iowa's passing offense consisted primarily of short throws and screens
– Arm Strength drops off on deep passes
– Limited field vision – he was often baited into interceptions or dangerous passes, especially on flat routes
– Often holds the ball too long leading to sacks and fumbles
– Played in a run-heavy offense which limited his exposure to sophisticated passing concepts
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Apr 29, 2017 at 8:17 AM ]
Apr 29, 2017 at 8:26 AM
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Originally posted by FrozeReactionZ:
Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Let me see if I have this right.
Kyle tells the Texans to get Schaub.
Kyle tells the Browns to get Derek Carr.
Kyle tells the Browns to get Garoppolo.
Kyle tells the Redskins to get Cousins,
We hire Kyle.
We then ask Kyle to tell us a QB to get, because he seems to do that pretty well.
Kyle says CJ.
We get CJ.
Our QB guru just chose a QB. Now, at this point, you'd think the fan base would be ecstatic, or at least accepting. Uh, no.
The webzone is a fascinating place.
POST OF THE DAY!
Kyle tells them not to draft RGIII and Manziel.
Spot on!
Apr 29, 2017 at 8:27 AM
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Originally posted by FrozeReactionZ:
The kid has serious F-ing potential!