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QB CJ Beathard - signs with Jacksonville

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:




Dam you had to find thay low-light huh lololol. kinda funny
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by FrozeReactionZ:
Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Let me see if I have this right.

Kyle tells the Texans to get Schaub.
Kyle tells the Browns to get Derek Carr.
Kyle tells the Browns to get Garoppolo.
Kyle tells the Redskins to get Cousins,

We hire Kyle.

We then ask Kyle to tell us a QB to get, because he seems to do that pretty well.

Kyle says CJ.

We get CJ.

Our QB guru just chose a QB. Now, at this point, you'd think the fan base would be ecstatic, or at least accepting. Uh, no.

The webzone is a fascinating place.

POST OF THE DAY!

Kyle tells them not to draft RGIII and Manziel.

Spot on!

I am not sure that stuff is not myth.
this is his first pick as a HC, this is also only the thirst top four round QB picked by the 49ers this century. The 49ers could have had any QB this draft and Shanahan chose this guy over th etrest and will be judged for doing so. Beathard better be the best QB of this draft.
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ERFANb4Uwas:

This is a great breakdown thanks!

The 5:40 minute mark: dude is moving the defense.

Been so long to see someone competent in a pro offense, the little nuances seemed special

Agreed.
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In this day and age of spread offenses and QBs that operate 99% out of shotgun, these QBs have to be rewired out of so many habits that aren't desired in Kyle's offense. Kyle said it himself that he saw CJ do things that he would be asked to do in Shanahan's offense. It's more than just playing from under center. That's not what 'pro ready' really means. It means making line checks at the line scrimmage, calling out the Mike, identifying fronts to call the optimal run play, progression reads, and the one thing I think Kyle really liked is seeing CJ execute playcation while turning his back to the defense.

One could make an argument that Shanahan's offense is too "old school" and that he isn't adapting to modern football (spread shotgun) to accommodate the QB prospects that are coming out of college. This is what the 49ers hired. He wants to see the QB do certain things. Projecting a QB to be able to audible, learn timing footwork, is a risk Kyle doesn't want to take. He wants to see the QB actually do it on film. This is what drew Kyle's interest to CJ.
Originally posted by Predator85:
Could of had him tomorrow, but who knows.

You dont know that. Maybe they got wind that someone wanted him. If hes the guy Shanny liked best in this class, hes the guy. He's likely the longterm backup. At the start of 2016 McShay had him rated as a mid 3rd round pick, but a bad OL and WR injuries killed his 2016, which dropped him out of draft radars.
Pittsburgh and the Jets both traded back after we took Bethard. Both teams are in need of a QB as well. Im not sure if they were going to draft Bethard but the potential was there. Better to be safe than sorry.
Originally posted by FrozeReactionZ:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:




Dam you had to find thay low-light huh lololol. kinda funny

He doesn't even get up very well. His right arm is flailing as he stands up.
[ Edited by PacTiger on Apr 29, 2017 at 8:46 AM ]
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Predator85:
Could of had him tomorrow, but who knows.

You dont know that. Maybe they got wind that someone wanted him. If hes the guy Shanny liked best in this class, hes the guy. He's likely the longterm backup. At the start of 2016 McShay had him rated as a mid 3rd round pick, but a bad OL and WR injuries killed his 2016, which dropped him out of draft radars.

I think lynch has spies. He did this with foster too.
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Predator85:
Could of had him tomorrow, but who knows.

You dont know that. Maybe they got wind that someone wanted him. If hes the guy Shanny liked best in this class, hes the guy. He's likely the longterm backup. At the start of 2016 McShay had him rated as a mid 3rd round pick, but a bad OL and WR injuries killed his 2016, which dropped him out of draft radars.
Agreed, he did have a terrible line last year. Here's an example of what he can do with some real pass protection for once:

Originally posted by NCommand:
It certainly gives shANALynch the options in case Cousins doesn't work out. But given how long it takes X e develop a QB in the WCO (esp. if they come from a spread offense), deferring to "next year" to me, is a sign we're locked in on Cousins (hit the ground running QB). But we'll see...we should be in good shape to maneuver either way...


Terrible name combo
[ Edited by GlenCoffeesNuts on Apr 29, 2017 at 8:53 AM ]
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Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Predator85:
Could of had him tomorrow, but who knows.

You dont know that. Maybe they got wind that someone wanted him. If hes the guy Shanny liked best in this class, hes the guy. He's likely the longterm backup. At the start of 2016 McShay had him rated as a mid 3rd round pick, but a bad OL and WR injuries killed his 2016, which dropped him out of draft radars.
Agreed, he did have a terrible line last year. Here's an example of what he can do with some real pass protection for once:

I see we've found the one gif that represents his college career.
Originally posted by thl408:
In this day and age of spread offenses and QBs that operate 99% out of shotgun, these QBs have to be rewired out of so many habits that aren't desired in Kyle's offense. Kyle said it himself that he saw CJ do things that he would be asked to do in Shanahan's offense. It's more than just playing from under center. That's not what 'pro ready' really means. It means making line checks at the line scrimmage, calling out the Mike, identifying fronts to call the optimal run play, progression reads, and the one thing I think Kyle really liked is seeing CJ execute playcation while turning his back to the defense.

One could make an argument that Shanahan's offense is too "old school" and that he isn't adapting to modern football (spread shotgun) to accommodate the QB prospects that are coming out of college. This is what the 49ers hired. He wants to see the QB do certain things. Projecting a QB to be able to audible, learn timing footwork, is a risk Kyle doesn't want to take. He wants to see the QB actually do it on film. This is what drew Kyle's interest to CJ.

Exactly. To put into perspective, there were only 6 QB's who played within a pro-style offense: Brad Kaaya, Chad Kelly, Nate Peterman, Patrick Towles, C.J. Beathard & Mitch Leidner.

Not surprisingly, all are all still available.
[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 29, 2017 at 8:57 AM ]
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Predator85:
Could of had him tomorrow, but who knows.

You dont know that. Maybe they got wind that someone wanted him. If hes the guy Shanny liked best in this class, hes the guy. He's likely the longterm backup. At the start of 2016 McShay had him rated as a mid 3rd round pick, but a bad OL and WR injuries killed his 2016, which dropped him out of draft radars.
In all seriousness I agree. I don't necessarily think that he thinks Beathard is the "best" prospect in the draft, just that Trubisky et al. weren't such a valuable pick. He probably felt that Beathard was the best value-to-upside ratio or something.

As you said, Shanahan probably sees him as a long-term backup solution. There is obviously value in a backup QB -- look at how the Raiders collapsed after Carr went down. On top of this, some of the money backup QBs are getting is insane; for example, look at the Eagles signing Chase Daniel to a 3-year, $21M extension ($12M guaranteed). Now that's probably an extreme example, but still.
Lol. A minute left.
Originally posted by thl408:
I see we've found the one gif that represents his college career.

Everytime he screws up this GIF is getting posted.
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