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Apr 30, 2017 at 1:42 PM
Originally posted by awp8912:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2017/4/30/15491688/2018-nfl-mock-draft-quarterbacks-josh-rosen-sam-darnold-49ers-browns

2018 NFL mock draft: The year of the quarterback is soon to be at hand
It's a year away, but the 2018 NFL draft looks to have a huge QB class.
By David Fucillo

We will draft our franchise Qb next year, I will keep saying it. CJ is a Qb Kyle can maybe groom.

This next draft is loaded with Qb's Kyle will get his Qb next year, whether its darnold or not.

We will get 5 wins with Hoyer in this division tops.

Sadly, I know longer trust Shanny's opinion on QBs. Regardless of how many QBs are projected to be studs next draft, how many of them will fit Kyle's offense?? Maybe 1, maybe none. Maybe he just doesn't want to teach a young top prospect QB his way and have the pressure of grooming a new QB quickly and just cops out and goes after Cousins.

Yes, "apparently, he wanted to draft Derek Carr" But was Derek Carr looked at as a top 5 pick in 2014? No. So remember not every great or even future HOF QB is even compatible with the genius Kyle Shanahan. All I'm getting at is: don't get your hopes up.



How do you like your crow?

You might want to give that some thought because the odds of you being correct are made very long by history.
Apr 30, 2017 at 1:45 PM
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I fapped for Kap. Now it's time to beat hard for Beathard. I really hope he thought up of a cool TD celebration gesture and calls it Beatharding.
Apr 30, 2017 at 1:49 PM
Originally posted by awp8912:
Sadly, I know longer trust Shanny's opinion on QBs. Regardless of how many QBs are projected to be studs next draft, how many of them will fit Kyle's offense?? Maybe 1, maybe none. Maybe he just doesn't want to teach a young top prospect QB his way and have the pressure of grooming a new QB quickly and just cops out and goes after Cousins.

Yes, "apparently, he wanted to draft Derek Carr" But was Derek Carr looked at as a top 5 pick in 2014? No. So remember not every great or even future HOF QB is even compatible with the genius Kyle Shanahan. All I'm getting at is: don't get your hopes up.

Based on what? Because He didn't want Kap and didn't draft Kizer.

All you've shown is that you really don't even understand what Kyle's offense is.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Apr 30, 2017 at 1:50 PM ]
Apr 30, 2017 at 1:49 PM
Originally posted by dj43:


How do you like your crow?

You might want to give that some thought because the odds of you being correct are made very long by history.

I just gave it some more thought actually, I should have written, "no" instead of "know".
Apr 30, 2017 at 1:52 PM
Originally posted by Niners816:
Based on what? Because He didn't want Kap and didn't draft Kizer.

Based on the type of QBs he loves to work with: Schaub/Hoyer/Cousins/Beathard/Barkley/etc. Outside of Matt Ryan who was already a stud, it's pretty obvious the type of QBs this guy only works with. Even Mike Mayock compared Beathard to Schaub........TO.....SCHAUB! That's what Kyle's eye loves to look for, sadly. Now let's see how many of those top prospect QBs in the 2018 draft stack up in terms of being like Schaub. I doubt many.
Apr 30, 2017 at 1:52 PM
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Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
This guy looks like he has confident pre-snap presence, nice footwork, a quick set up, comfortable spatial awareness, the ability to put the ball in the air before the receiver finishes his route, and throws a catchable ball.
Don't see the drama. Just the potential.
(Edit for spelling)

How do you see the "throw before WR finishes his route"? Are you watching all22? Can you link me?
Apr 30, 2017 at 1:57 PM
Kyle has been clear about what he sees in the kid. Seems like a low-ceiling/high-floor guy to me, but what do I know? I'm rooting for him like any good fan should.
Apr 30, 2017 at 2:03 PM
Originally posted by awp8912:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Based on what? Because He didn't want Kap and didn't draft Kizer.

Based on the type of QBs he loves to work with: Schaub/Hoyer/Cousins/Beathard/Barkley/etc. Outside of Matt Ryan who was already a stud, it's pretty obvious the type of QBs this guy only works with. Even Mike Mayock compared Beathard to Schaub........TO.....SCHAUB! That's what Kyle's eye loves to look for, sadly. Now let's see how many of those top prospect QBs in the 2018 draft stack up in terms of being like Schaub. I doubt many.

Really.....I'm sure he would have loved to work with Luck, Rodgers, Brees, Brady etc. Much like how his father loved to work with Young and Elway.

None of the guys you've mentioned were drafted before the third round. You have nothing to base your opinion on what he would like in a first round QB. All we know is that he wasnt a huge fan of a QB class that seems pretty weak.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Apr 30, 2017 at 2:06 PM ]
Apr 30, 2017 at 2:05 PM
Originally posted by thl408:
I fapped for Kap. Now it's time to beat hard for Beathard. I really hope he thought up of a cool TD celebration gesture and calls it Beatharding.

Apr 30, 2017 at 2:06 PM
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
This guy looks like he has confident pre-snap presence, nice footwork, a quick set up, comfortable spatial awareness, the ability to put the ball in the air before the receiver finishes his route, and throws a catchable ball.
Don't see the drama. Just the potential.
(Edit for spelling)

How do you see the "throw before WR finishes his route"? Are you watching all22? Can you link me?

I think this is what Kyle said about CJ after his film study of him. I remember hearing him talk about CJ accuracy and talking about just this and noticing what shoulder of the WR he was putting the throws.
Apr 30, 2017 at 2:12 PM
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
This guy looks like he has confident pre-snap presence, nice footwork, a quick set up, comfortable spatial awareness, the ability to put the ball in the air before the receiver finishes his route, and throws a catchable ball.
Don't see the drama. Just the potential.
(Edit for spelling)

How do you see the "throw before WR finishes his route"? Are you watching all22? Can you link me?

Easiest to look at the video on page 4 of the thread (with the volume off). At minute 1:30. He does it.
I don't do analysis, just observe, but that's one of the things I saw. Ergo, he can do it.
Apr 30, 2017 at 2:12 PM
Originally posted by awp8912:
Sadly, I know longer trust Shanny's opinion on QBs. Regardless of how many QBs are projected to be studs next draft, how many of them will fit Kyle's offense?? Maybe 1, maybe none. Maybe he just doesn't want to teach a young top prospect QB his way and have the pressure of grooming a new QB quickly and just cops out and goes after Cousins.

Yes, "apparently, he wanted to draft Derek Carr" But was Derek Carr looked at as a top 5 pick in 2014? No. So remember not every great or even future HOF QB is even compatible with the genius Kyle Shanahan. All I'm getting at is: don't get your hopes up.

What are even talking about?
Apr 30, 2017 at 2:14 PM
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
This guy looks like he has confident pre-snap presence, nice footwork, a quick set up, comfortable spatial awareness, the ability to put the ball in the air before the receiver finishes his route, and throws a catchable ball.
Don't see the drama. Just the potential.
(Edit for spelling)

And has a arm...shanny never runs play action

[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 30, 2017 at 2:15 PM ]
Apr 30, 2017 at 2:14 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
What are even talking about?

"Don't get your hopes up."
Apr 30, 2017 at 2:15 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
And has a arm...

Agree strongly with this, I'm not sure why people are saying on here that he doesn't
From what I've seen it looks like his OC was somewhat hesitant to let him throw the deep ball
But when he does it looks great
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