QB CJ Beathard - signs with Jacksonville

Originally posted by krizay:
But Kessler played good. Just got concussed TWICE.

I think that's why Jackson shut him down at the end of the year after he was cleared. Didn't want to ruin him for nothing.

I'm actually glad he's going to get a chance to compete this offseason. Truly believes he wins the job and keeps it barring injury

He played okay and then they drafted Kizer to compete with him because OK doesn't cut it opposed to giving him a weapon which is what you'd do if you actually thought you had a qb. I don't have anything against drafting a qb next year I just don't see the benefit of setting Beidhard up to fail. If Hoyer and Barkley can't win you got your answer already. There's no need to expose him to that and I'd even say that with Mitchell too if we took him. Let them sit and learn like Brady, Rodgers. Now if it's wk 16 and 17 and glorified preseason games yeah go ahead.

Kirk Ferentz: Smart football people see C.J. Beathard's potential

http://www.knbr.com/2017/05/03/kirk-ferentz-smart-football-people-see-c-j-beathards-potential/ (Audio of interview at bottom of the page)

Originally posted by Cooper22:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

This dude's brother is playing at Lollapalooza.

Damn that's cool, didn't know they were brothers.. Tucker had a hit single on country radio a couple months back called "Rock On"

I can't believe Arcade Fire has the last gig of the night. They are horrendous

Originally posted by tjd808185:

He played okay and then they drafted Kizer to compete with him because OK doesn't cut it opposed to giving him a weapon which is what you'd do if you actually thought you had a qb. I don't have anything against drafting a qb next year I just don't see the benefit of setting Beidhard up to fail. If Hoyer and Barkley can't win you got your answer already. There's no need to expose him to that and I'd even say that with Mitchell too if we took him. Let them sit and learn like Brady, Rodgers. Now if it's wk 16 and 17 and glorified preseason games yeah go ahead.

See you only know what you think you know.


Hue didn't want a QB this draft to begin with. The GM was the one clamoring for one and ultimately drafting one.

Kessler was Hues CJ Bethard only difference is he and GM and lynch and shanny.

Make know mistake if Kizer was viewed by them as the answer he would have been taken at #12

Originally posted by krizay:
See you only know what you think you know.

Hue didn't want a QB this draft to begin with. The GM was the one clamoring for one and ultimately drafting one.

Kessler was Hues CJ Bethard only difference is he and GM and lynch and shanny.

Make know mistake if Kizer was viewed by them as the answer he would have been taken at #12

Not sure if that was the case. Pretty sure I read somewhere where he wasn't so excited about the pick as he led on at the time.

Sorry if already posted:

"I can tell you that they weren't the only team that looked at C.J. that high," Schrager said. "In fact, I had a team tell me if he's there in the third round, they'll take him. They ended up trading out of that pick or they didn't have a pick. Something happened (and) they ended up not taking him but that's another one where the mock drafts didn't have C.J. Beathard being mentioned but he went before Nathan Peterman and a bunch of the guys that got all the hype."

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/105912-schrager-another-team-wanted-beathard-third-round/

Tolzien>>>cj beat hard

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Well, that about sums that up! Good eye Shanny...when you just watch the tape and for specific traits and duties as they translate to the NFL, it's a whole lot easier than focusing on combine crap (esp. for QB's).

There was this show on last night, something called, We the Fans, or something like that. They highlighted Bears fans and ironically, they kept showing Bears game with Barkley at the helm...dude played terrific if not for one of the worst case of droppsies I've even seen from one team. It was like watching us. Barkley might end up being a quality depth for us...potential push starter...don't count him out either.

I watched that game it was weird how many drops their was for sure...I'm gonna say mehhh with Barkley I've watched too many other games that show why he's not a starter in this league. Neither Barkley or Boyer are durable either so I wouldn't be surprised if CJ plays at some pt.

Gotcha...I certainly can't speak to his overall skill set or other games...just thought his makeup, IIRC against the Titans, he looked terrific.

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Kirk Ferentz: Smart football people see C.J. Beathard's potential

http://www.knbr.com/2017/05/03/kirk-ferentz-smart-football-people-see-c-j-beathards-potential/ (Audio of interview at bottom of the page)

I know highlight films don't tell the whole story but he sure looks good in his.

Originally posted by theduke85:
Sorry if already posted:

"I can tell you that they weren't the only team that looked at C.J. that high," Schrager said. "In fact, I had a team tell me if he's there in the third round, they'll take him. They ended up trading out of that pick or they didn't have a pick. Something happened (and) they ended up not taking him but that's another one where the mock drafts didn't have C.J. Beathard being mentioned but he went before Nathan Peterman and a bunch of the guys that got all the hype."

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/105912-schrager-another-team-wanted-beathard-third-round/

Lynch had also mentioned that he had "intel" that several other teams were slated to pick him in the 3rd and 4th rounds...hence the trade up to close the deal.

Originally posted by illinois9er:

I can't believe Arcade Fire has the last gig of the night. They are horrendous

Their pretty wild live

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by krizay:

See you only know what you think you know.

Hue didn't want a QB this draft to begin with. The GM was the one clamoring for one and ultimately drafting one.

Kessler was Hues CJ Bethard only difference is he and GM and lynch and shanny.

Make know mistake if Kizer was viewed by them as the answer he would have been taken at #12

Not sure if that was the case. Pretty sure I read somewhere where he wasn't so excited about the pick as he led on at the time.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/30/hue-jackson-on-cody-kessler-youve-got-to-trust-me-on-this/

Pretty much EXACTLY the way shanny did it

Originally posted by Cooper22:
"Most talented QB in 18 years at Iowa" .... But Ricky Stanzi!

f**king Ricky "Montana" Stanzi

Originally posted by jeepzilla:
I know highlight films don't tell the whole story but he sure looks good in his.

He looked like a much different player in 2015. I think injuries really took their toll on him this past season.

Originally posted by slowriot:
"He processes the game so well, tough as s---. Got a chance. He reminds me a lot of Kirk Cousins" - head coach Kyle Shanahan



HEIGHT: 6'2"

WEIGHT: 219LBS.

ARM LENGTH: 30 5/8"

HANDS: 9 3/8"

DRAFT ANALYSIS:
"C.J. Beathard had mostly fifth-, sixth-round grades from the teams I spoke with. Obviously has great NFL lineage, the Beathard name famous for talent evaluation, and I thought his tape was down a little bit this year. I thought he was better as a junior. Very smart, understands where to go with the football, better arm than expected when you really sit down and study him. I haven't seen him live, and the people who went to his Pro Day told me he had an excellent day." -- Mike Mayock

OVERVIEW
A lot of people know that the Hawkeyes' signal caller is the grandson of former NFL general manager Bobby Beathard -- but now C.J. is a father in own right after he and his girlfriend welcomed a girl (Lyla) into their world in December. He was the most prolific quarterback in Tennessee his final two years of high school (runner-up for one of the state's Mr. Football awards). As a redshirt freshman, Beathard played a little (9-27, TD, two INT) and the following year he saw the field more often (nine games, one start, 645 yards, five TD, two INT). He was given the reins of the offense as a junior, earning team MVP and second-team All-Big Ten honors by completing 61.6 percent of his passes for 2,809 pass yards, 17 touchdowns and just five interceptions. Beathard wasn't as effective as a senior (56.5 completion pct, 1,929 yards, 147TD, 10 INT) but is still considered a solid developmental prospect.

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS
Played in pro-style passing attack, working under center and from shotgun. Capable and confident rolling out. Squares shoulders to deliver strikes. Completed 57 percent of his passes outside of the pocket at Iowa. Showed improved touch on short throws. Footwork and pocket mechanics look solid. Throws with some natural accuracy despite pedestrian completion percentage. Better tape in 2015 as he had to overcome injuries to key targets in 2016. Has the arm strength to throw the deep out without laboring. Trusts his line and keeps eyes downfield. Plays with relatively calm demeanor. Good feel and timing for screen game. Knee brace slowed him some during senior season, but he has ability to escape the heat. Team leader with ability to handle adversity. Won't take unnecessary chances.

WEAKNESSES
Hesitation is a noticeable issue. Often late to pull trigger on throws toward the sideline, forcing receivers into boundary and out of the catch. Slow field scanner who tends to lock into a single side. Too much eye-balling and not enough manipulating. Poor feel for pocket pressure. Two-year sack total of 58 is too high in play-action attack. Anchors deep in pocket and rarely climbs pocket to safe harbor. Oblivious to backside pressure until it's too late. Needs more air under the long ball. Deep-ball accuracy has been terrible. Completed under 30 percent of throws beyond 20 yards in last two seasons at Iowa. Completed just 43 percent of throws beyond line of scrimmage to right sideline.

DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6-7

NFL COMPARISON Tom Savage

BOTTOM LINE
Pro-style quarterback who dealt with nagging injuries to key pass catchers and himself in 2016. His 2015 tape was more impressive, but deep-ball accuracy issues, poor pocket awareness, and unnecessary hesitation as a passer shows up in both seasons. Beathard plays checkers with safeties rather than chess, which could always hinder his ability to attack down the field with success. Could be a career backup who finds himself in the action at some point down the road.
-Lance Zierlein

So let me get this straight, the Niners passed over DE (LEO) Jordan Wills in the 3rd for a guy they could have got in the 5th or 6th....A guy with career back up talent over a player of immediate need....Our draft was going great until this pick and the 5th round pick!!!!!!!!