QB CJ Beathard - signs with Jacksonville

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:

Funny they closed the QB of the future thread because we drafted Beathard.

LOL

Can we reopen that thread?

Considering Walsh traded for Young when he already had Montana...Yes!

Most 4th round QB's aren't expected to be FQB's. It happens every blue moon but it's by far not the norm.

I support the pick, Shanahan and Beathard but I'm not expecting him to be our FQB.

Worst player on the roster. SMH.

Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:
Funny they closed the QB of the future thread because we drafted Beathard.

LOL

Can we reopen that thread?

Considering Walsh traded for Young when he already had Montana...Yes!

Most 4th round QB's aren't expected to be FQB's. It happens every blue moon but it's by far not the norm.

I support the pick, Shanahan and Beathard but I'm not expecting him to be our FQB.

3rd round, but a FQB isn't a FQB until he is...whether it's Leaf as the number two pick or Gibnitz in the 7th.

Originally posted by dsmith_49erz:

Both 3rd rounders, no math required

We traded for a 2nd instead of taking Willis. If you want to be mad that's the move to be mad about.

As far as Willis goes excellent Sparq but pedestrian film working solely against right tackles. I'm upset we missed on a Leo but he wasn't my 1st choice.

Originally posted by dsmith_49erz:

I can look in the past and tell you Jordan Willis in the 3rd round was a far better value pick than CJ....No need to look into the future , we are in the now. Willis was the better pick hands down and fits a immediate need now. Not 1 or 2 years down the road when Shanny finds his franchise QB not named CJ. Stick to you opinion and I will do the same....We don't need to validate that with anyone.

Wtf are you babbling about? Should we complain about the Foster pick because we didn't draft Myles Garrett instead? Jordan Willis has what to do with this?

Originally posted by dsmith_49erz:

Both 3rd rounders, no math required

Did that seriously make sense in your head?

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by Jcool:
The question i have a hard time answering... Why do you care?

Why do you?

But why do you care about why cool cares about what phoenix thinks about smith's take on it

I only care a tadbit, hence I'm wondering

Originally posted by pdizo916:
Worst player on the roster. SMH.

He might be. Terrible, terrible pick.

Originally posted by NinerSickness:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Worst player on the roster. SMH.

He might be. Terrible, terrible pick.

He might not be

Originally posted by NinerSickness:
He might be. Terrible, terrible pick.

Would you say you're sick about it?

Originally posted by LVJay:

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by Jcool:

The question i have a hard time answering... Why do you care?

Why do you?

But why do you care about why cool cares about what phoenix thinks about smith's take on it

I only care a tadbit, hence I'm wondering

Exactly

I wonder who the other team was.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/105912-schrager-another-team-wanted-beathard-third-round/

I can guess only the Bills or the Jets

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by dsmith_49erz:
Both 3rd rounders, no math required

Did that seriously make sense in your head?

3rd round positions that were 30 picks apart from each other are essentially the same value? Yeah, no. But people need to be careful about thinking about trading a third round pick for a second round pick next year because of the same reasoning. Thinking in terms of what round a player is picked in is okay for a rough idea of their value to teams, but the reality is that there is a generally continuous drop of in value as you go down, not a sudden drop at each round and leveling off in that round.

Is trading for a second round pick significantly better than staying with an early 3rd round pick? It depends. The 9ers traded away the 67th pick this year. If the Saints are really good in the 2017 season, the 9ers could end up with say the 62nd pick in the second round of the next draft. That means they would have dropped nine spots in this year's draft to move up five spots next year. Hard to say if that jump up five is worth the fall down nine slots this year. Maybe, maybe not.

BUT, if the Saints have an average season this year, then the 9ers may end up having swapped a 67th pick for something like a 48th pick. That for sure would be a significant improvement in value even taking into account the moving down of nine slots this year. If the Saints don't play very well this year then the 9ers could potentially move up to something like the 38th slot next year. Whoohoo! That would make this an extremely good trade.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NinerSickness:

He might be. Terrible, terrible pick.

Would you say you're sick about it?

Lol good one half the people didn't know who he was when we drafted him...so he must be garbage.

Your not drafting your FQB with the 104th pick, yet some people think that I loved it (would have prefer peterman but I get it)...we get a smart pro-style qb to develop, didnt invest a ton of high end captial for a mediocre qb, and can still go get one of the top end qbs next yr's draft (with our extra picks) or go after one if there in FA.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
I wonder who the other team was.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/105912-schrager-another-team-wanted-beathard-third-round/

I can guess only the Bills or the Jets

This link says it was the redskins:

The Redskins really liked C.J. Beathard out of Iowa. He's the grandson of former Washington GM Bobby Beathard and Allen had him identified as a fourth-round target. Shanahan, who with his father drafted Cousins in Washington, saw a lot of Cousins in Beathard and decided to grab him in the late third round, above some projections but in keeping with the mounting buzz on the passer I was picking up pre-draft

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-insider-draft-notes-why-teams-disliked-kizer-how-49ers-snaked-skins-for-a-qb/