DJ Jones-DT-Denver Broncos

BIG re-signing. Really good deal for us

Did he played last year...

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Good I'd say. We haven't gotten better. Just retained the main people we absolutely had to.

Mack is a big upgrade from Joe blow at center...overall I expect some second tier signings at CB/edge to round it out.

overall we got our guys and now have flexibility in the draft

I think Ebukam could be a nice rotational edge too. I was watching the NFL channel and they said he was an excellent signing

Hell yeah. Had he left there would be a hole at base NT. I don't think Givens can handle the load there on run downs. Glad DJJ is back at a reasonable cost.

Love it, he's one of our most underappreciated players!

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
So what we thinking around $990K for his cap hit? AB?

Edit never mind lol

It'd be $990K + $137,500, so $1,127,500 if I'm right. He would really get a $2.24M base salary fully GTD, but only $990K counts. It's the Fourth Year Qualifying Contract, it's new, apart of the 2020 CBA, we did it with Blair, we can do it with 1 more player I believe.

Sorry AB, i missed that in the new players contract. As a midlevel, how exactly does he get $2.2 mil yet only count $900K against cap? Was this to help out midlevel players, and if so why? Also noted you said we have one more guy we can do this for. Could it be to help teams keep an extra two midlevel players?

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
So what we thinking around $990K for his cap hit? AB?

Edit never mind lol

It'd be $990K + $137,500, so $1,127,500 if I'm right. He would really get a $2.24M base salary fully GTD, but only $990K counts. It's the Fourth Year Qualifying Contract, it's new, apart of the 2020 CBA, we did it with Blair, we can do it with 1 more player I believe.

Sorry AB, i missed that in the new players contract. As a midlevel, how exactly does he get $2.2 mil yet only count $900K against cap? Was this to help out midlevel players, and if so why? Also noted you said we have one more guy we can do this for. Could it be to help teams keep an extra two midlevel players?

Basically it's another form of the veteran minimum salary benefit deal, where a guy signs a 1yr deal but only counts $850K this season, which is the 3rd yr minimum, well with the 4th yr it's the same, only he counts $990K, which is the minimum he would get for 4yrs accrued, but he gets $2.24M, only counts the $990K, it's more of an incentive for a player to take a minimum deal, while teams get some cap relief. Unlike the Vet minimum salary benefit deals, these deals base salaries are fully GTD, so he's a lock for the 53 man roster. That's if he did get this, I'd say it's like 99% sure it's that kind of deal, he's a NT, he wasn't gonna get the kind of cash he would get with a cap not falling, and if he didn't have injury concerns, it's a great deal to keep him, just rotate him and Darrion Daniels. Keep him fresh.

Doc, this will better explain it, from OTC, straight from the CBA, Article 27 | NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) | Over The Cap

Section 7. Four-Year Player Qualifying Contract

(a)
For purposes of this Article, a "Four-Year Qualifying Player" shall be defined as a player with four or more Credited Seasons whose contract with a Club has expired after four or more years of continuous, uninterrupted service with that Club (i.e., the player must have been under contract to that Club and on that Club's 90-player roster for the immediately prior four or more consecutive League Years without interruption prior to the contract's expiration. For the purposes of determining whether a player qualifies as a Four-Year Qualifying Player in accordance with the immediately preceding sentence, a player must have been on the Club's 90-player roster for every regular season and postseason game in which the Club participated during each of the four consecutive League Years.) Such a player may sign a Four-Year Qualifying Contract, which shall be defined as a Player Contract that covers only a single League Year and contains a Paragraph 5 Salary for up to $1.25 million more than the applicable minimum Active/Inactive List Salary for a player with the Four-Year Qualifying Player's number of Credited Seasons for the 202021 League Years and, in the case of a split contract, for up to $1.25 million more than the applicable minimum non-Active/Inactive List Salary for a player with the four-year Qualifying Player's number of Credited Seasons for the 2020-21 League Years. In any League Year, a Club may sign a maximum of two Four-Year Qualifying Players to Four-Year Qualifying Contracts; provided, however, that the combined amount by which the players' respective Paragraph 5 Salaries may exceed the players' respective minimum Active/Inactive List salaries or, in the case of a split contract, the players' respective minimum nonActive/Inactive List salaries, shall be limited to a total of $1.25 million. For example, without limitation to other examples, in the 2020 League Year, a Club may sign one player for $1.0 million more than his applicable Minimum Salary and a second player for $250,000 more than his applicable Minimum Salary. In the case of a split contract, under no circumstances may the difference between the player's stated "down" amount and the Minimum Salary for a player not on Club's Active/Inactive List be greater than the difference between the player's stated "up" amount and the Minimum Salary for a player on Club's Active/Inactive List. A Four-Year Qualifying Player Contract must be so designated at the time of signing. A Four-Year Qualifying Player shall be eligible to receive Additional Compensation subject to the terms and conditions of Sections 2 and 3 of this Article; provided, however, that such a player may receive a guarantee for salary and/or salary advance of up to the Four-Year Qualifying Player's stated Paragraph 5 Salary. A Four-Year Qualifying Player Contract may not be extended or renegotiated in any manner except as provided in Section 11 below.

(b)
The maximum combined amount by which a Club's two Four-Year Qualifying Players' respective Paragraph 5 Salaries may exceed the players' respective minimum Active/Inactive List Salaries or, in the case of a split contract, the players' respective minimum non-Active/Inactive List Salaries shall be increased to $1.35 million for the 2022-23 League Years; $1.45 million for the 2024-25 League Years; $1.55 million for the 2026-27 League Years; $1.65 million for the 2028-29 League Years; and $1.75 million for the 2030 League Year.

Wow, I'm almost as pumped for this as Trent Williams, I love DJ, when healthy he's a beast.

Gone the way of Verrett, bet on himself to have a great year with us and boost his value for a long term deal with us or elsewhere

Originally posted by thl408:
Hell yeah. Had he left there would be a hole at base NT. I don't think Givens can handle the load there on run downs. Glad DJJ is back at a reasonable cost.

Completely agree. DJJ is a good player. It's just frustrating that he can't stay on the field.

Originally posted by thl408:
Hell yeah. Had he left there would be a hole at base NT. I don't think Givens can handle the load there on run downs. Glad DJJ is back at a reasonable cost.

Totally agree. Wanted Poon but when D.J. is healthy, he's got legit talent.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by thl408:
Hell yeah. Had he left there would be a hole at base NT. I don't think Givens can handle the load there on run downs. Glad DJJ is back at a reasonable cost.

Completely agree. DJJ is a good player. It's just frustrating that he can't stay in the field.

My one and only pick ever based on the combine alone....cones...he was amazing. Just hoping for a good yr.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by thl408:
Hell yeah. Had he left there would be a hole at base NT. I don't think Givens can handle the load there on run downs. Glad DJJ is back at a reasonable cost.

Completely agree. DJJ is a good player. It's just frustrating that he can't stay in the field.

Yah.
Seems to limp off more times than I'd like to remember.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:
Hell yeah. Had he left there would be a hole at base NT. I don't think Givens can handle the load there on run downs. Glad DJJ is back at a reasonable cost.

Totally agree. Wanted Poon but when D.J. is healthy, he's got legit talent.

If you're talking Poona Ford of the Seahawks, they gave him the 2nd rd tender, $3.384M, Poona Ford Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money, and Contract History | Over The Cap

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Doc, this will better explain it, from OTC, straight from the CBA, Article 27 | NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) | Over The Cap

Section 7. Four-Year Player Qualifying Contract

(a)
For purposes of this Article, a "Four-Year Qualifying Player" shall be defined as a player with four or more Credited Seasons whose contract with a Club has expired after four or more years of continuous, uninterrupted service with that Club (i.e., the player must have been under contract to that Club and on that Club's 90-player roster for the immediately prior four or more consecutive League Years without interruption prior to the contract's expiration. For the purposes of determining whether a player qualifies as a Four-Year Qualifying Player in accordance with the immediately preceding sentence, a player must have been on the Club's 90-player roster for every regular season and postseason game in which the Club participated during each of the four consecutive League Years.) Such a player may sign a Four-Year Qualifying Contract, which shall be defined as a Player Contract that covers only a single League Year and contains a Paragraph 5 Salary for up to $1.25 million more than the applicable minimum Active/Inactive List Salary for a player with the Four-Year Qualifying Player's number of Credited Seasons for the 202021 League Years and, in the case of a split contract, for up to $1.25 million more than the applicable minimum non-Active/Inactive List Salary for a player with the four-year Qualifying Player's number of Credited Seasons for the 2020-21 League Years. In any League Year, a Club may sign a maximum of two Four-Year Qualifying Players to Four-Year Qualifying Contracts; provided, however, that the combined amount by which the players' respective Paragraph 5 Salaries may exceed the players' respective minimum Active/Inactive List salaries or, in the case of a split contract, the players' respective minimum nonActive/Inactive List salaries, shall be limited to a total of $1.25 million. For example, without limitation to other examples, in the 2020 League Year, a Club may sign one player for $1.0 million more than his applicable Minimum Salary and a second player for $250,000 more than his applicable Minimum Salary. In the case of a split contract, under no circumstances may the difference between the player's stated "down" amount and the Minimum Salary for a player not on Club's Active/Inactive List be greater than the difference between the player's stated "up" amount and the Minimum Salary for a player on Club's Active/Inactive List. A Four-Year Qualifying Player Contract must be so designated at the time of signing. A Four-Year Qualifying Player shall be eligible to receive Additional Compensation subject to the terms and conditions of Sections 2 and 3 of this Article; provided, however, that such a player may receive a guarantee for salary and/or salary advance of up to the Four-Year Qualifying Player's stated Paragraph 5 Salary. A Four-Year Qualifying Player Contract may not be extended or renegotiated in any manner except as provided in Section 11 below.

(b)
The maximum combined amount by which a Club's two Four-Year Qualifying Players' respective Paragraph 5 Salaries may exceed the players' respective minimum Active/Inactive List Salaries or, in the case of a split contract, the players' respective minimum non-Active/Inactive List Salaries shall be increased to $1.35 million for the 2022-23 League Years; $1.45 million for the 2024-25 League Years; $1.55 million for the 2026-27 League Years; $1.65 million for the 2028-29 League Years; and $1.75 million for the 2030 League Year.

Jeez AB, thanks hombre. So it really benefits both team and player in 4th yr, when team is encouraged to keep him on due to cap, yet he gets his $2.2 mil . Man that must have taken the PA 20 attys to figure that out. But i get it...again, AB, you are our man.