Pita Taumoepenu, DE, Utah

Originally posted by CityKing415:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by mayo49:
He should be better already than Harold and Brooks.

boi, u trippin.

the hate for brooks reminds me of the hate for goldson. Sure he gets penalties here and there that can and should be avoided, but dude is a playmaker. One of the best OLBs in the game.

Yeah, but he's on his last legs. How old is he? Like 45?

Same people who hate on Brooks probably the ones who love AA

Brooks is going to retire a 49er ...if we were going to get rid of him , we would have done it by now, his age is only a number, he's still got some whoop ass left in the tank

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Pass-rusher: Pita Taumoepenu, Utah
As a prospect, Taumaoepenu has to excite defensive coaches, as he has an explosive first step off the snap and great edge speed, but needs significant refinement to his game. While he struggled against the run in each of the last three seasons at Utah (17 missed tackles in 2016), he's been a productive pass-rusher throughout, and really took a step forward during his senior season with 54 total pressures. He'd be an ideal fit in the middle of Day 3 for the Cowboys, where defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli would likely use him initially on third down from a wide-9 alignment to get after the quarterback while he developed his complete skill set.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-5-specialists-who-warrant-a-late-pick-in-the-draft/

Lobo, if that is all he can do, fine...have him get to it. If he misses tackles on RBs, but can chase the QB all over hell and back, bring him on. Having that quick first step....lovely.

Can't wait til they put him in on a 3rd and 6 . Tell him it's a "GO" route. Tell him to go like crazy and do nothing else til the QB is on his back in the dirt.

lol exactly paso, completely agree. if he makes the team, we would probably see him used like Aldon was first year. No reads, no adjustments at the line. Line up outside, wait for ball to be snapped, then go kill the QB, preferably before the whistle blows.

Aldon had a great bull rush move that was a perfect counter to his speed rush. If Pita only does a speed rush, given how elite NFL level athletes are, it will be easy for a good RB or a FB to take him out of the play. Pita won't be able to dominate NFL players with just his speed, they way he did in college. I hope he has counters to his speed rush. Haley had a devastating inside move that really wrong footed the left tackles he faced. Pita will need to develop counters to his initial speed rush move. If he doesn't he will be gone next year, in my opinion.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Aldon had a great bull rush move that was a perfect counter to his speed rush. If Pita only does a speed rush, given how elite NFL level athletes are, it will be easy for a good RB or a FB to take him out of the play. Pita won't be able to dominate NFL players with just his speed, they way he did in college. I hope he has counters to his speed rush. Haley had a devastating inside move that really wrong footed the left tackles he faced. Pita will need to develop counters to his initial speed rush move. If he doesn't he will be gone next year, in my opinion.

Yeah, I think the rationale of Saleh is, "Let's bull rush the hell out of the LT with Armstead...wear him down on base downs (body blows). Then I'll bring in the counter speed/quickness to blow by the LT (right hooks)."

Will it work?

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Found our first potential LEO. i don't see him being a 10 plus sack a year guy but I see him as a guy that can provide 6-8 sacks and give constant pressure, which is more than what you ask for in a 6th round pick.

I can see him being a 10+ sack guy, just pair him up with a good DT rusher, and look what you get. Joe Klecko and Mark Gastineau were a devastating pair of pass rushers. Joe went inside and attracted a double team, and Mark Gastineau went outside because they couldn't double him with Klecko attracting double teams. Mark racked up a ton of sacks, I think, because of Joe Klecko. Another duo was Leonard Marshall and Lawrence Taylor, and of course our own Justin Smith and Aldon Smith.

I'm not saying Pita is the second coming of Fred Dean, I'm just saying that if he's paired with a good DT, from the LEO position, he can potentially rack up 10+ sacks.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Aldon had a great bull rush move that was a perfect counter to his speed rush. If Pita only does a speed rush, given how elite NFL level athletes are, it will be easy for a good RB or a FB to take him out of the play. Pita won't be able to dominate NFL players with just his speed, they way he did in college. I hope he has counters to his speed rush. Haley had a devastating inside move that really wrong footed the left tackles he faced. Pita will need to develop counters to his initial speed rush move. If he doesn't he will be gone next year, in my opinion.

Yeah, I think the rationale of Saleh is, "Let's bull rush the hell out of the LT with Armstead...wear him down on base downs (body blows). Then I'll bring in the counter speed/quickness to blow by the LT (right hooks)."

Will it work?

Well, I think it will work against one dimensional run teams. I'd rather have AA at Leo than Pita if we're playing a strong run teams. Dallas and the Titans come to mind, as teams with a very strong run games. If we're ahead in the 4rth quarter, why not try out Pita at Leo - we all know that the key to winning lots of games is having a pass rush in the 4rth quarter.

I brought this up in another thread but Pita reminds me of Yannick Ngakoue in Jacksonville...he's a pure pass rush specialist with a similar size and speed to Yannick.

Pita had 13 sacks in 16 games and like Yannick both are liabilities in the run game.

Pita doesn't need to win a lot, imo. If he can make the QB step up into the pocket, that's going to set the table for AA, DeFo, and Thomas on the inside.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I brought this up in another thread but Pita reminds me of Yannick Ngakoue in Jacksonville...he's a pure pass rush specialist with a similar size and speed to Yannick.

Pita had 13 sacks in 16 games and like Yannick both are liabilities in the run game.

Well there you go, Yannick pro-football writers all rookie team! Why not Pita!

Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, I think it will work against one dimensional run teams. I'd rather have AA at Leo than Pita if we're playing a strong run teams. Dallas and the Titans come to mind, as teams with a very strong run games. If we're ahead in the 4rth quarter, why not try out Pita at Leo - we all know that the key to winning lots of games is having a pass rush in the 4rth quarter.

Agreed...the opposition will certainly dictate the personnel we use, no doubt.

The other good thing about AA at LEO is that if Thomas is at the 3T next to him, AA can occupy two while Thomas runs an outside stunt. And that could potentially be just as devastating as having a natural speed edge rusher.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I brought this up in another thread but Pita reminds me of Yannick Ngakoue in Jacksonville...he's a pure pass rush specialist with a similar size and speed to Yannick.

Pita had 13 sacks in 16 games and like Yannick both are liabilities in the run game.

Well there you go, Yannick pro-football writers all rookie team! Why not Pita!

yeah you can see the similarities in college along with their combine numbers. I mean why not lol?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I brought this up in another thread but Pita reminds me of Yannick Ngakoue in Jacksonville...he's a pure pass rush specialist with a similar size and speed to Yannick.

Pita had 13 sacks in 16 games and like Yannick both are liabilities in the run game.

Well there you go, Yannick pro-football writers all rookie team! Why not Pita!

yeah you can see the similarities in college along with their combine numbers. I mean why not lol?

Greek restaurants will be lining up for endorsement deals!

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Pita doesn't need to win a lot, imo. If he can make the QB step up into the pocket, that's going to set the table for AA, DeFo, and Thomas on the inside.

And there you go, as to why to have the best 11, which includes the BIG 3, where nobody is going to double all three of them ,hence somebody gets to the QB...and if that's Pita, fine. Every OL is going to have trouble with Solly, AA, and Buck. They all need doubles...and there just aren't that many OLs on the LOS.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I brought this up in another thread but Pita reminds me of Yannick Ngakoue in Jacksonville...he's a pure pass rush specialist with a similar size and speed to Yannick.

Pita had 13 sacks in 16 games and like Yannick both are liabilities in the run game.

Well there you go, Yannick pro-football writers all rookie team! Why not Pita!

yeah you can see the similarities in college along with their combine numbers. I mean why not lol?

Greek restaurants will be lining up for endorsement deals!

yeah buddy!

Bored so I'm just going through YouTube looking for football stuff lol

I hope this kid can develop into a situational pass rusher for us. Probably going to be on the PS for a year or make the team and be inactive. Looks like he has some pass rush potential though. Man I wish we took the kid from Ohio though.