QB Nick Mullens is now a Viking

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by thl408:
I liked what I saw from Mullens. Two solid starts, he earned another one.

This.

The kid doesn't take sacks.

Not bad so far, but there were moments where you can see the pressure made him force some of those throws.

Originally posted by Chief:

Yeah, I just had a slow motion image with Meatloaf "Love Hurts" playing at three quarter speed.

The band is actually Nazareth. I opened for them at the Stone in San Francisco, now the Penthouse club lol.

Re-watched some of his throws vs NYG and there were two short throws where inaccuracy killed the play. First was the throw to Pettis that forced Pettis to reach back for the ball, killing his momentum, killing any chance at RAC. It was a 3rd down and they were forced to punt. The other was when Goodwin tipped the pass up in the air for an INT. That was also a ball thrown behind the WR. "One foot in front of the numbers", Walsh used to say, so the WR can get RAC.

Against OAK, Mullens was very accurate short range and I thought that was something he can hang his hat on, short range accuracy, which can make a QB functional in this offense. Still looked better than Beathard.

The reason why I pointed out those two throws is because when it happened live, it seemed like Pettis was timid and didn't want to take it upfield after catching the ball. He couldn't because reaching back for the pass killed his forward momentum. It was man coverage and there was a CB running after him, which makes "one foot in front of the numbers" critical.
Some were upset that Goodwin didn't catch that pass, but the ball location was poor.

Originally posted by thl408:

Re-watched some of his throws vs NYG and there were two short throws where inaccuracy killed the play. First was the throw to Pettis that forced Pettis to reach back for the ball, killing his momentum, killing any chance at RAC. It was a 3rd down and they were forced to punt. The other was when Goodwin tipped the pass up in the air for an INT. That was also a ball thrown behind the WR. "One foot in front of the numbers", Walsh used to say, so the WR can get RAC.

Against OAK, Mullens was very accurate short range and I thought that was something he can hang his hat on, short range accuracy, which can make a QB functional in this offense. Still looked better than Beathard.

The one to Goodwin, he stop and start twice . I wonder if that contributed to the pass ended up thrown behind Goodwin

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by thl408:
Re-watched some of his throws vs NYG and there were two short throws where inaccuracy killed the play. First was the throw to Pettis that forced Pettis to reach back for the ball, killing his momentum, killing any chance at RAC. It was a 3rd down and they were forced to punt. The other was when Goodwin tipped the pass up in the air for an INT. That was also a ball thrown behind the WR. "One foot in front of the numbers", Walsh used to say, so the WR can get RAC.

Against OAK, Mullens was very accurate short range and I thought that was something he can hang his hat on, short range accuracy, which can make a QB functional in this offense. Still looked better than Beathard.

The one to Goodwin, he stop and start twice . I wonder if that contributed to the pass ended up thrown behind Goodwin

Yes good point. Goodwin is running a drag route here and there is usually a read to make on the coverage. If it's man coverage, keep running across the field. If it's zone, sit down in between the zones, in a quiet spot. Goodwin seemed unsure of what to do (it was man coverage). At this point in the game, I think Goodwin had double vision from being dinked in the head.

I'm curious about the pass to Pettis just before the last Niner FG, where Pettis got a talk to with Kyle on the sideline. The pass was behind Pettis, so what happened ...

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I'm curious about the pass to Pettis just before the last Niner FG, where Pettis got a talk to with Kyle on the sideline. The pass was behind Pettis, so what happened ...

Yeah, it sure seemed from Kyle's reaction that Pettis either ran the wrong route or didn't alter the route for coverage correctly.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by thl408:

Re-watched some of his throws vs NYG and there were two short throws where inaccuracy killed the play. First was the throw to Pettis that forced Pettis to reach back for the ball, killing his momentum, killing any chance at RAC. It was a 3rd down and they were forced to punt. The other was when Goodwin tipped the pass up in the air for an INT. That was also a ball thrown behind the WR. "One foot in front of the numbers", Walsh used to say, so the WR can get RAC.

Against OAK, Mullens was very accurate short range and I thought that was something he can hang his hat on, short range accuracy, which can make a QB functional in this offense. Still looked better than Beathard.

The one to Goodwin, he stop and start twice . I wonder if that contributed to the pass ended up thrown behind Goodwin

Yes good point. Goodwin is running a drag route here and there is usually a read to make on the coverage. If it's man coverage, keep running across the field. If it's zone, sit down in between the zones, in a quiet spot. Goodwin seemed unsure of what to do (it was man coverage). At this point in the game, I think Goodwin had double vision from being dinked in the head.

Thanks for pointing these two out. Kyle seemed livid with Pettis on the sidelines after the throw. With his shake at the LOS and extra steps, could Kyle have been upset with him on the front end of the route throwing the timing off a tad...same concept with him and JG earlier on in the year that lead to an INT.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I'm curious about the pass to Pettis just before the last Niner FG, where Pettis got a talk to with Kyle on the sideline. The pass was behind Pettis, so what happened ...

I'm wondering too. It seemed to me the pass was behind him, meaning not Pettis' fault. But I don't know what depth he was supposed to run his route or things of that sort. 12 seconds left in the half, no timeouts. They had to go out of bounds there and had the pass been on target, Pettis would have caught it and gone out of bounds. Maybe Kyle talking to Pettis had nothing to do with that particular play?

Originally posted by NCommand:
Thanks for pointing these two out. Kyle seemed livid with Pettis on the sidelines after the throw. With his shake at the LOS and extra steps, could Kyle have been upset with him on the front end of the route throwing the timing off a tad...same concept with him and JG earlier on in the year that lead to an INT.

Quite possibly. He gives a little extra move with his release off the line.

I think Pinky is in Kyles' doghouse.

So how many losses before we change his name to SDN?

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
So how many losses before we change his name to SDN?

This loss wasn't his fault though.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

So how many losses before we change his name to SDN?

This loss wasn't his fault though.

Hence the "Fire Saleh" post'!!!