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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Ryanoceros:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Ryanoceros:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
glad they're giving him more touches. Came close to breaking some long ones yesterday.

I like this kid.
Had more Snaps than Hyde yesterday...

Hydes hip flared up, which is the reason why he had more snaps. It had nothing to do with Hyde getting phased out as the starting back. There's also reports of Niners trying to extend Hyde's contract.

Didn't Hyde say it was a coaches decision and he felt heathy enough to play?

What'd he have like 8 carries for 11 yards? I'm pretty sure he wasn't okay.
I'm pretty sure Hyde knows more about his health than anyone on here...

Of course Hyde is going to say he's okay. He's a competitor, but if he's not okay and he's hurting the team then you replace him, which is exactly what happened. You don't replace a guy who's been your best player thus far. It makes zero sense. It's funny if you think otherwise because Lynch and Co. are working on an extension for him.
Originally posted by Ryanoceros:
Of course Hyde is going to say he's okay. He's a competitor, but if he's not okay and he's hurting the team then you replace him, which is exactly what happened. You don't replace a guy who's been your best player thus far. It makes zero sense. It's funny if you think otherwise because Lynch and Co. are working on an extension for him.

If Hyde was hurt, there is nothing wrong with him admitting it. There is a difference between telling your coach you are hurt and therefore cannot play, and telling the media. Only the former situation has any bearing on one's competitiveness.

KS said he went with Breida yesterday in the second half because Breida was the "hot hand." Which means Breida was playing better than Hyde in KS's opinion. Had Hyde been injured, it seems far more likely KS would have cited the injury as the reason Breida was given most of the snaps.
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by Ryanoceros:
Of course Hyde is going to say he's okay. He's a competitor, but if he's not okay and he's hurting the team then you replace him, which is exactly what happened. You don't replace a guy who's been your best player thus far. It makes zero sense. It's funny if you think otherwise because Lynch and Co. are working on an extension for him.

If Hyde was hurt, there is nothing wrong with him admitting it. There is a difference between telling your coach you are hurt and therefore cannot play, and telling the media. Only the former situation has any bearing on one's competitiveness.

KS said he went with Breida yesterday in the second half because Breida was the "hot hand." Which means Breida was playing better than Hyde in KS's opinion. Had Hyde been injured, it seems far more likely KS would have cited the injury as the reason Breida was given most of the snaps.

No. You dont let your upcoming opponent know you're banged up so they can target you... If they see what you were on the injury report for.
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by Ryanoceros:
Of course Hyde is going to say he's okay. He's a competitor, but if he's not okay and he's hurting the team then you replace him, which is exactly what happened. You don't replace a guy who's been your best player thus far. It makes zero sense. It's funny if you think otherwise because Lynch and Co. are working on an extension for him.

If Hyde was hurt, there is nothing wrong with him admitting it. There is a difference between telling your coach you are hurt and therefore cannot play, and telling the media. Only the former situation has any bearing on one's competitiveness.

KS said he went with Breida yesterday in the second half because Breida was the "hot hand." Which means Breida was playing better than Hyde in KS's opinion. Had Hyde been injured, it seems far more likely KS would have cited the injury as the reason Breida was given most of the snaps.

No. You dont let your upcoming opponent know you're banged up so they can target you... If they see what you were on the injury report for.

Smoke, that does not make any sense whatsoever.

With the way injury reports work, knowledge of what player's do during the week leading up to a game etc., there is absolutely no one who is unaware of who is and is not 100%.

And the whole targeting thing also does not hold water. Players are hitting you as hard as they can regardless of your health status. Unless you mean targeting like the Saints were accused of
[ Edited by Polkadots on Oct 10, 2017 at 9:42 AM ]
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by Ryanoceros:
Of course Hyde is going to say he's okay. He's a competitor, but if he's not okay and he's hurting the team then you replace him, which is exactly what happened. You don't replace a guy who's been your best player thus far. It makes zero sense. It's funny if you think otherwise because Lynch and Co. are working on an extension for him.

If Hyde was hurt, there is nothing wrong with him admitting it. There is a difference between telling your coach you are hurt and therefore cannot play, and telling the media. Only the former situation has any bearing on one's competitiveness.

KS said he went with Breida yesterday in the second half because Breida was the "hot hand." Which means Breida was playing better than Hyde in KS's opinion. Had Hyde been injured, it seems far more likely KS would have cited the injury as the reason Breida was given most of the snaps.

No. You dont let your upcoming opponent know you're banged up so they can target you... If they see what you were on the injury report for.

Smoke, that does not make any sense whatsoever.

With the way injury reports work, knowledge of what player's do during the week leading up to a game etc., there is absolutely no one who is unaware of who is and is not 100%.

And the whole targeting thing also does not hold water. Players are hitting you as hard as they can regardless of your health status. Unless you mean targeting like the Saints were accused of
Completely disagree, teams stretch the truth all the time on injury reports. Remember when Tom Brady showed up on the injury report every week for like 10 years straight, or how Seattle got in hot water last year for not including Richard Sherman on the injury reports?

During a game a week or two a player injured his rib. Romo was doing the broadcast. After a sideline injury update on the rib, Romo said something like, "yeah, you can never take what a player/team says about an injury seriously -- especially with a rib injury. They're going to downplay the severity of it, otherwise the opposition the next week is going to target that and try to take advantage of it."
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Originally posted by theduke85:
Completely disagree, teams stretch the truth all the time on injury reports. Remember when Tom Brady showed up on the injury report every week for like 10 years straight, or how Seattle got in hot water last year for not including Richard Sherman on the injury reports?

During a game a week or two a player injured his rib. Romo was doing the broadcast. After a sideline injury update on the rib, Romo said something like, "yeah, you can never take what a player/team says about an injury seriously -- especially with a rib injury. They're going to downplay the severity of it, otherwise the opposition the next week is going to target that and try to take advantage of it."

That's not how injury reports work. Last year they removed probable, cutting the reports down to two categories: questionable (more likely to play than not) and doubtful (less likely to play than not). The point is, whether KS said "Hyde was injured" or omitted it, has no bearing on anything in the weeks to come. Ask any fan here what has been bothering Hyde the past few weeks. Anyone who has followed the 49ers will tell you it is his hip. How many of them have read an injury report or done any sort of in depth research into Hyde's status? Like...2%? Probably less? No one is hiding injuries anymore because you know about them almost immediately.

And of course a team is going to downplay an injury. Thanks Romo. That doesn't contradict the fact that the opposing teams know there was an injury and it involved the ribs (in the case Romo is citing).

And further, to suggest a team is targeting an injured player even more than they would normally really doesn't hold water.
[ Edited by Polkadots on Oct 10, 2017 at 9:56 AM ]
Breida The Cheetah
Originally posted by Ryanoceros:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
glad they're giving him more touches. Came close to breaking some long ones yesterday.

I like this kid.
Had more Snaps than Hyde yesterday...

Hydes hip flared up, which is the reason why he had more snaps. It had nothing to do with Hyde getting phased out as the starting back. There's also reports of Niners trying to extend Hyde's contract.

Completely FALSE.

Coach said had nothing to do with Injuries, he decided to go with the HOT HAND at the time. Carlos got outplayed and out snapped by the rookie plain and simple.

Get over it.
Originally posted by acrownlessking:
Originally posted by Ryanoceros:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
glad they're giving him more touches. Came close to breaking some long ones yesterday.

I like this kid.
Had more Snaps than Hyde yesterday...

Hydes hip flared up, which is the reason why he had more snaps. It had nothing to do with Hyde getting phased out as the starting back. There's also reports of Niners trying to extend Hyde's contract.

Completely FALSE.

Coach said had nothing to do with Injuries, he decided to go with the HOT HAND at the time. Carlos got outplayed and out snapped by the rookie plain and simple.

Get over it.

Shanahan was displeased with hyde fumbling the pitch and poor blitz pickup

Breida looked much better than Hyde last week
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by acrownlessking:
Originally posted by Ryanoceros:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
glad they're giving him more touches. Came close to breaking some long ones yesterday.

I like this kid.
Had more Snaps than Hyde yesterday...

Hydes hip flared up, which is the reason why he had more snaps. It had nothing to do with Hyde getting phased out as the starting back. There's also reports of Niners trying to extend Hyde's contract.

Completely FALSE.

Coach said had nothing to do with Injuries, he decided to go with the HOT HAND at the time. Carlos got outplayed and out snapped by the rookie plain and simple.

Get over it.

Shanahan was displeased with hyde fumbling the pitch and poor blitz pickup

Breida looked much better than Hyde last week
Back to back weeks of this...
I thought Breida's pass-pro was pretty good. He hits the hole hard too. He's getting close to busting one.
Originally posted by acrownlessking:
Originally posted by Ryanoceros:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
glad they're giving him more touches. Came close to breaking some long ones yesterday.

I like this kid.
Had more Snaps than Hyde yesterday...

Hydes hip flared up, which is the reason why he had more snaps. It had nothing to do with Hyde getting phased out as the starting back. There's also reports of Niners trying to extend Hyde's contract.

Completely FALSE.

Coach said had nothing to do with Injuries, he decided to go with the HOT HAND at the time. Carlos got outplayed and out snapped by the rookie plain and simple.

Get over it.
coach isn't Hyde and has to go off what Hyde/Staff says

Hyde suffered a hip injury. was a game time decision vs AZ and wasn't a factor. wasn't a factor with the snaps he had vs the Colts.

The pressure of being injury prone and this being a contract year. he will probably fight through the injury and not say anything. he can't afford to miss games and take on that label into FA.
Anyone have the all-22 clips of Breida's runs?

I've been watching a bunch of Alex Gibbs stuff on youtube to learn the teaching points of this system. I now understand what Kyle meant by this being a "downhill" scheme. I think it's only a matter of time before Breida takes the lion's share of the workload. He's more natural fit for what Kyle/Bobby want from their RB.
[ Edited by Heroism on Oct 11, 2017 at 7:52 PM ]
This guy's gonna break a long one before long.
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