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Oct 11, 2019 at 12:09 PM
Originally posted by mayo49:
They're going to pay Breida - they're not going to let him walk out.

Considering the massive money the 49ers WANT to throw at RBs there should be money for him.
Oct 11, 2019 at 12:27 PM
Originally posted by okdkid:
RB1 for the Niners. Top 5 RB in the nfl. Elite rushing, catching and blocking.


Elite catching? Saw him bobble a pass that turned in to an interception against Pittsburgh. Elite blocking? Have anything to prove that? Dude looks like he doesn't have the size or durability to be an every-down back, let alone an elite blocker. But he is definitely an elite rusher. Dude shoots out of a cannon any time he's back there.
Oct 11, 2019 at 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:
Originally posted by okdkid:
In 2019 - Breida is unquestionably better than all but three of those dudes. McCaffrey, Kamara, Elliott

No he is not , Lmaoo he is not better than Bell or Gurley or David Johnson. He is not a dual threat rb

This isn't 2017 anymore. Gurley is average and he ain't ever coming back, man. David Johnson has done nothing in this league for years. Plural. Nothing. He's one of the softest runners in the NFL and will not be back with the Cardinals next season at this rate.

Stop believing what NFL Network tells you. You just named the most falsely hyped RBs in the league. Not the best in 2019.
[ Edited by okdkid on Oct 11, 2019 at 12:41 PM ]
Oct 11, 2019 at 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by okdkid:
RB1 for the Niners. Top 5 RB in the nfl. Elite rushing, catching and blocking.


Elite catching? Saw him bobble a pass that turned in to an interception against Pittsburgh. Elite blocking? Have anything to prove that? Dude looks like he doesn't have the size or durability to be an every-down back, let alone an elite blocker. But he is definitely an elite rusher. Dude shoots out of a cannon any time he's back there.



[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Oct 11, 2019 at 12:45 PM ]
Oct 11, 2019 at 12:48 PM
Originally posted by okdkid:
RB1 for the Niners. Top 5 RB in the nfl. Elite rushing, catching and blocking.


Mostert has 5.8 yards per carry in 41 attempts. Tevin Coleman 5.5 yards per carry.

We will see by the end of this season with bigger sample size how much better is Brieda compared to Coleman and Mostert. My concern for paying him big money is whether he can stay healthy and how much of his success is due to the blocking and the scheme rather than the RBs. I also would like to see him be a bigger threat to the defense as a receiver coming out of the back field, which is huge under the Shanahan scheme.
Oct 11, 2019 at 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by okdkid:
RB1 for the Niners. Top 5 RB in the nfl. Elite rushing, catching and blocking.


Elite catching? Saw him bobble a pass that turned in to an interception against Pittsburgh. Elite blocking? Have anything to prove that? Dude looks like he doesn't have the size or durability to be an every-down back, let alone an elite blocker. But he is definitely an elite rusher. Dude shoots out of a cannon any time he's back there.




LOL. Don't do this to him. Imagine thinking Breida isn't a top level pass catching RB. People just can't move on from his rookie year narrative. All this dude has done is produce everywhere on the field.
Oct 11, 2019 at 12:54 PM
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by okdkid:
RB1 for the Niners. Top 5 RB in the nfl. Elite rushing, catching and blocking.


Elite catching? Saw him bobble a pass that turned in to an interception against Pittsburgh. Elite blocking? Have anything to prove that? Dude looks like he doesn't have the size or durability to be an every-down back, let alone an elite blocker. But he is definitely an elite rusher. Dude shoots out of a cannon any time he's back there.




LOL. Don't do this to him. Imagine thinking Breida isn't a top level pass catching RB. People just can't move on from his rookie year narrative. All this dude has done is produce everywhere on the field.

I believe PFF had Breida as one of the more reliable pass catching RB in the league last yr....
Oct 11, 2019 at 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
I believe PFF had Breida as one of the more reliable pass catching RB in the league last yr....

Now combine that with everything else.
Oct 11, 2019 at 1:01 PM
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by okdkid:
RB1 for the Niners. Top 5 RB in the nfl. Elite rushing, catching and blocking.


Elite catching? Saw him bobble a pass that turned in to an interception against Pittsburgh. Elite blocking? Have anything to prove that? Dude looks like he doesn't have the size or durability to be an every-down back, let alone an elite blocker. But he is definitely an elite rusher. Dude shoots out of a cannon any time he's back there.




LOL. Don't do this to him. Imagine thinking Breida isn't a top level pass catching RB. People just can't move on from his rookie year narrative. All this dude has done is produce everywhere on the field.

But how big is he as a threat to the defense as a receiver coming out of the backfield? Do you think defense worry about him as a receiver similar to McCaffrey, Bell, Kamara, D Johnson, D Freeman, Dalvin Cook, J White, and/or Barkley? He played 4 games fully healthy and catched 6 balls for 46 yards.

Receiver is not just about catching the ball, it is also about route running. I liked his TD reception against the Browns. I want to see more of that. Maybe Brieda will get there, but so far I would say I have not seen enough to label him as a elite receiver coming out of the back field.
Oct 11, 2019 at 1:41 PM
Originally posted by littleken:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by okdkid:
RB1 for the Niners. Top 5 RB in the nfl. Elite rushing, catching and blocking.


Elite catching? Saw him bobble a pass that turned in to an interception against Pittsburgh. Elite blocking? Have anything to prove that? Dude looks like he doesn't have the size or durability to be an every-down back, let alone an elite blocker. But he is definitely an elite rusher. Dude shoots out of a cannon any time he's back there.




LOL. Don't do this to him. Imagine thinking Breida isn't a top level pass catching RB. People just can't move on from his rookie year narrative. All this dude has done is produce everywhere on the field.

But how big is he as a threat to the defense as a receiver coming out of the backfield? Do you think defense worry about him as a receiver similar to McCaffrey, Bell, Kamara, D Johnson, D Freeman, Dalvin Cook, J White, and/or Barkley? He played 4 games fully healthy and catched 6 balls for 46 yards.

Receiver is not just about catching the ball, it is also about route running. I liked his TD reception against the Browns. I want to see more of that. Maybe Brieda will get there, but so far I would say I have not seen enough to label him as a elite receiver coming out of the back field.

We won't know until it's a big game and defenses are focused on him or he puts together a few big receiving games. What I'm hoping is that our receivers emerge as reliable threats so that defenses can't fully focus on anyone.
Oct 11, 2019 at 1:46 PM
Originally posted by littleken:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by okdkid:
RB1 for the Niners. Top 5 RB in the nfl. Elite rushing, catching and blocking.


Elite catching? Saw him bobble a pass that turned in to an interception against Pittsburgh. Elite blocking? Have anything to prove that? Dude looks like he doesn't have the size or durability to be an every-down back, let alone an elite blocker. But he is definitely an elite rusher. Dude shoots out of a cannon any time he's back there.




LOL. Don't do this to him. Imagine thinking Breida isn't a top level pass catching RB. People just can't move on from his rookie year narrative. All this dude has done is produce everywhere on the field.

But how big is he as a threat to the defense as a receiver coming out of the backfield? Do you think defense worry about him as a receiver similar to McCaffrey, Bell, Kamara, D Johnson, D Freeman, Dalvin Cook, J White, and/or Barkley? He played 4 games fully healthy and catched 6 balls for 46 yards.

Receiver is not just about catching the ball, it is also about route running. I liked his TD reception against the Browns. I want to see more of that. Maybe Brieda will get there, but so far I would say I have not seen enough to label him as a elite receiver coming out of the back field.

When he's on the field he's a run threat to the defense, the last 4 games, you don't suddenly actively go away from that and make him a receiving threat.

Maybe when we don't have 2 backup tackles in the game
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Oct 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM ]
Oct 11, 2019 at 1:52 PM
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by littleken:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by okdkid:
RB1 for the Niners. Top 5 RB in the nfl. Elite rushing, catching and blocking.


Elite catching? Saw him bobble a pass that turned in to an interception against Pittsburgh. Elite blocking? Have anything to prove that? Dude looks like he doesn't have the size or durability to be an every-down back, let alone an elite blocker. But he is definitely an elite rusher. Dude shoots out of a cannon any time he's back there.




LOL. Don't do this to him. Imagine thinking Breida isn't a top level pass catching RB. People just can't move on from his rookie year narrative. All this dude has done is produce everywhere on the field.

But how big is he as a threat to the defense as a receiver coming out of the backfield? Do you think defense worry about him as a receiver similar to McCaffrey, Bell, Kamara, D Johnson, D Freeman, Dalvin Cook, J White, and/or Barkley? He played 4 games fully healthy and catched 6 balls for 46 yards.

Receiver is not just about catching the ball, it is also about route running. I liked his TD reception against the Browns. I want to see more of that. Maybe Brieda will get there, but so far I would say I have not seen enough to label him as a elite receiver coming out of the back field.

When he's on the field he's a run threat to the defense, the last 4 games, you don't suddenly actively go away from that and make him a receiving threat.

Maybe when we don't have 2 backup tackles in the game

I was saying I haven't seen enough production (as a receiver) to label him an elite receiver coming out of the back field. I didn't say we should pass more to Brieda. These are completely different statements.
Oct 11, 2019 at 2:02 PM
He may get better at receiving as he plays more in this system. I'm guessing he wasn't asked to do that a lot in college which may have been one of the reasons he went undrafted. Last year he wasn't completely healthy and was in and out of the lineup so let's see what happens as he plays more.
Oct 11, 2019 at 2:07 PM
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by okdkid:
RB1 for the Niners. Top 5 RB in the nfl. Elite rushing, catching and blocking.


Elite catching? Saw him bobble a pass that turned in to an interception against Pittsburgh. Elite blocking? Have anything to prove that? Dude looks like he doesn't have the size or durability to be an every-down back, let alone an elite blocker. But he is definitely an elite rusher. Dude shoots out of a cannon any time he's back there.




LOL. Don't do this to him. Imagine thinking Breida isn't a top level pass catching RB. People just can't move on from his rookie year narrative. All this dude has done is produce everywhere on the field.


He isn't a top level pass catching RB. So now sure why you're making s**t up to support your false narrative. Hilarious too, considering your original post listed the average yards per carry, which contained absolutely no data about his pass protection or pass catching abilities.

No need to get testy either. I agreed with one point (elite rushing ability) and asked you for data to support your claim on the other two points, instead you attempt to attack me. Nice straw man.

In regards to qnnhan74's post, loved the catch against KC. Beautiful play. I would still need to see more than just 487 yards receiving to say he's an elite receiver. I think anyone can agree with that.
[ Edited by Scottie15 on Oct 11, 2019 at 2:08 PM ]
Oct 11, 2019 at 2:10 PM
Originally posted by littleken:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by littleken:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by okdkid:
RB1 for the Niners. Top 5 RB in the nfl. Elite rushing, catching and blocking.


Elite catching? Saw him bobble a pass that turned in to an interception against Pittsburgh. Elite blocking? Have anything to prove that? Dude looks like he doesn't have the size or durability to be an every-down back, let alone an elite blocker. But he is definitely an elite rusher. Dude shoots out of a cannon any time he's back there.




LOL. Don't do this to him. Imagine thinking Breida isn't a top level pass catching RB. People just can't move on from his rookie year narrative. All this dude has done is produce everywhere on the field.

But how big is he as a threat to the defense as a receiver coming out of the backfield? Do you think defense worry about him as a receiver similar to McCaffrey, Bell, Kamara, D Johnson, D Freeman, Dalvin Cook, J White, and/or Barkley? He played 4 games fully healthy and catched 6 balls for 46 yards.

Receiver is not just about catching the ball, it is also about route running. I liked his TD reception against the Browns. I want to see more of that. Maybe Brieda will get there, but so far I would say I have not seen enough to label him as a elite receiver coming out of the back field.

When he's on the field he's a run threat to the defense, the last 4 games, you don't suddenly actively go away from that and make him a receiving threat.

Maybe when we don't have 2 backup tackles in the game

I was saying I haven't seen enough production (as a receiver) to label him an elite receiver coming out of the back field. I didn't say we should pass more to Brieda. These are completely different statements.

Fair enough. I don't think I can call him elite in the receiving department either. But I know he's good catching the ball
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