OL Laken Tomlinson, signs with NYJ

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Man is that hard to watch. So glad he is adios. He organized the talent that was here but that was about it. Kyle is everything he wasn't.

You're glad we lost our first winning coach since Mooch, a guy whose departure set off a decade of losing.

Kyle has done jack s**t so far to merit even a passing comparison to Harbaugh.

To press this point even further...before lucking into Garoppolo, what was Kyle's record? I'd say all of Jimmy G's wins were more because of Jimmy G and less because of Kyle's offensive "genius". Oh yeah....here's another hypothetical, give Harbaugh a QB like Jimmy G...what happens? We'll never know.

Same Tomsula logic that typically floats around this board.

Kyle is everything Harbaugh wasnt? He certainly isnt a winner yet, Harbaugh never went 6-10 without Jimmy G and with a garbage GM.

So many people moaning and whining, would they really want an abysmal offense under Harbs, and a horrible GM in Baalke, who alienated the team, coaches, players, fans, etc..... I'll keep Kyle, Lynch and company, much happier with this offense.

I'll agree that KS's offense looks prettier but lets compare numbers for first seasons...

JH Offense ranked 11th in the NFL. His offense scored 18 passing TD's, 14 Rushing TD's to just 10 Turnovers. Total Passing Yards were 2,930. Total Rushing Yards 2,044.
KS Offense ranked 20th in the NFL. His offense Scored 15 passing TD's, 15 Rushing TD's to just 23 Turnovers. Total Passing Yards were 3,925. Total Rushing Yards 1,622.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

So many people moaning and whining, would they really want an abysmal offense under Harbs, and a horrible GM in Baalke, who alienated the team, coaches, players, fans, etc..... I'll keep Kyle, Lynch and company, much happier with this offense.

Originally posted by jcs:

I'll agree that KS's offense looks prettier but lets compare numbers for first seasons...

JH Offense ranked 11th in the NFL. His offense scored 18 passing TD's, 14 Rushing TD's to just 10 Turnovers. Total Passing Yards were 2,930. Total Rushing Yards 2,044.
KS Offense ranked 20th in the NFL. His offense Scored 15 passing TD's, 15 Rushing TD's to just 23 Turnovers. Total Passing Yards were 3,925. Total Rushing Yards 1,622.

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Man is that hard to watch. So glad he is adios. He organized the talent that was here but that was about it. Kyle is everything he wasn't.

You're glad we lost our first winning coach since Mooch, a guy whose departure set off a decade of losing.

Kyle has done jack s**t so far to merit even a passing comparison to Harbaugh.

To press this point even further...before lucking into Garoppolo, what was Kyle's record? I'd say all of Jimmy G's wins were more because of Jimmy G and less because of Kyle's offensive "genius". Oh yeah....here's another hypothetical, give Harbaugh a QB like Jimmy G...what happens? We'll never know.

Same Tomsula logic that typically floats around this board.

Kyle is everything Harbaugh wasnt? He certainly isnt a winner yet, Harbaugh never went 6-10 without Jimmy G and with a garbage GM.

So many people moaning and whining, would they really want an abysmal offense under Harbs, and a horrible GM in Baalke, who alienated the team, coaches, players, fans, etc..... I'll keep Kyle, Lynch and company, much happier with this offense.

I'll agree that KS's offense looks prettier but lets compare numbers for first seasons...

JH Offense ranked 11th in the NFL. His offense scored 18 passing TD's, 14 Rushing TD's to just 10 Turnovers. Total Passing Yards were 2,930. Total Rushing Yards 2,044.
KS Offense ranked 20th in the NFL. His offense Scored 15 passing TD's, 15 Rushing TD's to just 23 Turnovers. Total Passing Yards were 3,925. Total Rushing Yards 1,622.

Let's compare the two coaches career trajectories at this moment... Harbaugh got demoted back to college, Kyle is gloriously in charge of my beloved 49ers.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by jcs:
I'll agree that KS's offense looks prettier but lets compare numbers for first seasons...

JH Offense ranked 11th in the NFL. His offense scored 18 passing TD's, 14 Rushing TD's to just 10 Turnovers. Total Passing Yards were 2,930. Total Rushing Yards 2,044.
KS Offense ranked 20th in the NFL. His offense Scored 15 passing TD's, 15 Rushing TD's to just 23 Turnovers. Total Passing Yards were 3,925. Total Rushing Yards 1,622.

Where you getting SF having the 20th overall offense? NFL.com had them as 12th overall this yr.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2017&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1

Harbs first yr...they had them 26th overall

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2011&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the only knock was that no first year coach wins a lot. We might be on our way to having a lot of first rounders again. Things just go in cycles and we are moving up

Yea I'm excited for this year. Trying to temper my expectations, but it's tough

we 9er fans have so much PTSD lol

i'm trying not to get too excited as well

Originally posted by jcs:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com

You're looking at total yards...hit the tab for points scored as they mean more when referring to wins and losses.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by GMniner805:
Same Tomsula logic that typically floats around this board.

Kyle is everything Harbaugh wasnt? He certainly isnt a winner yet, Harbaugh never went 6-10 without Jimmy G and with a garbage GM.

Actually Kyle went 5-0 with Jimmy G...get the facts straight at least lol. If you think Harb's team was on the same level talent-wise when he showed up vs Kyle's then you're being straight up naive.

I sure as s**t didn't want Harbs gone (and replaced with dog s**t for two yrs)...I did think he's shtick was getting old after a couple yrs. IMO his mentality is one of a college HC. He needs fresh players every couple yrs to give his who's got it better than us stuff. I also think he's a great recruiter....perfect for college

I'll take Kyle's Xs and Os and the way he approaches the NFL game over Jim any day.

Get facts straight? Are you trying to say the 1-10 before going 5-0 doesn't count? Even without Jimmy a lot of those games were winnable. Fact is Shanahan went 6-10 his first season, cant get anymore straight than that.

You have a bad habit of putting words in peoples mouths, I never mentioned anything about the talent level of either team

But even if you look back to Harbaughs first season, most experts projected the 49ers to go 3-13 not 13-3. So obviously at the time the 49ers talent level was not thought too highly of.

You take 6-10 (1-10 w/o jimmy) Shanahan, those x's and o's certainly didnt help without Jimmy G. It was looking like an 0-16 season until he showed up.

damn GM is probably the most unknowledgeable one here or just trying to incite

Harbuaghs first year was talent less lol that is a good one (do you even know how many #1 picks we had playing for us..guess not

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Same Tomsula logic that typically floats around this board.

Kyle is everything Harbaugh wasnt? He certainly isnt a winner yet, Harbaugh never went 6-10 without Jimmy G and with a garbage GM.

Actually Kyle went 5-0 with Jimmy G...get the facts straight at least lol. If you think Harb's team was on the same level talent-wise when he showed up vs Kyle's then you're being straight up naive.

I sure as s**t didn't want Harbs gone (and replaced with dog s**t for two yrs)...I did think he's shtick was getting old after a couple yrs. IMO his mentality is one of a college HC. He needs fresh players every couple yrs to give his who's got it better than us stuff. I also think he's a great recruiter....perfect for college

I'll take Kyle's Xs and Os and the way he approaches the NFL game over Jim any day.

Get facts straight? Are you trying to say the 1-10 before going 5-0 doesn't count? Even without Jimmy a lot of those games were winnable. Fact is Shanahan went 6-10 his first season, cant get anymore straight than that.

You have a bad habit of putting words in peoples mouths, I never mentioned anything about the talent level of either team

But even if you look back to Harbaughs first season, most experts projected the 49ers to go 3-13 not 13-3. So obviously at the time the 49ers talent level was not thought too highly of.

You take 6-10 (1-10 w/o jimmy) Shanahan, those x's and o's certainly didnt help without Jimmy G. It was looking like an 0-16 season until he showed up.

damn GM is probably the most unknowledgeable one here or just trying to incite

Harbuaghs first year was talent less lol that is a good one (do you even know how many #1 picks we had playing for us..guess not

You and NY must to be related or something, I never said Harbaughs first year was talent less. You cant just make stuff up out of thin air to suit your argument

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:

Nice to see that Laken Tomlinson has shown TPTB enough to warrant the new contract. Hopefully he continues to perform up to their standards moving forward. We have something good (conceivably special) brewing here and I'd like to see LT play his part in bringing that to fruition.

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Nice to see that Laken Tomlinson has shown TPTB enough to warrant the new contract. Hopefully he continues to perform up to their standards moving forward. We have something good (conceivably special) brewing here and I'd like to see LT play his part in bringing that to fruition.

TPTB?

Originally posted by GMniner805:
You and NY must to be related or something, I never said Harbaughs first year was talent less. You cant just make stuff up out of thin air to suit your argument

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:

Nice to see that Laken Tomlinson has shown TPTB enough to warrant the new contract. Hopefully he continues to perform up to their standards moving forward. We have something good (conceivably special) brewing here and I'd like to see LT play his part in bringing that to fruition.

TPTB?