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Originally posted by Jcool:
Cleveland is just a mess....


The Tank is back on...and of any team in the NFL they are probably the only team that actually tanks for draft picks...
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Cleveland is just a mess....




They must fired head coach Hue Jackson when they pass on Goff/Wentz then Pass on Watson again.
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Originally posted by awp8912:
Damn some of you guys are funny. He liked a tweet from a fellow friend who told him to keep his head up. He didn't like the tweet because that same guy bashed the Browns org. Some of you guys are funny. You thought Hoyer would save this team yet he's straight garbage. Kizer is still 10x better than Hoyer.

He liked a tweet saying the Browns are the worst organization......he's a moron for doing so, what QB in their right mind would do that to their own franchise.

So glad this guy is not a 49ers.......SO GLAD!!!
Please learn how to read my friend. He liked a tweet of his friend that ended with him telling him to keep his head up. He is not a politician that needs to micromanage people's idiotic overreactions that defy logic. If you really believe people took that as how you are pretending it was meant to be taken then explain why he's back as the starter after apparently trashing the org.??
Originally posted by BuZzB05:
They must fired head coach Hue Jackson when they pass on Goff/Wentz then Pass on Watson again.

They never passed on Goff. Goff went #1. They passed on Wentz and Watson and only Wentz has been proven as a legit franchise QB. Big deal. Kizer is still the youngest QB to start. He is still high, high potential despite what the haters say here. I mean most of the Kizer haters actually thought Hoyer was a good QB.
They need to clean house in Cleveland. Hue and his GM should get canned
Originally posted by awp8912:
Originally posted by BuZzB05:
They must fired head coach Hue Jackson when they pass on Goff/Wentz then Pass on Watson again.

They never passed on Goff. Goff went #1. They passed on Wentz and Watson and only Wentz has been proven as a legit franchise QB. Big deal. Kizer is still the youngest QB to start. He is still high, high potential despite what the haters say here. I mean most of the Kizer haters actually thought Hoyer was a good QB.


Kizer is Krap
Originally posted by Eli_23:
They need to clean house in Cleveland. Hue and his GM should get canned

It isnt "his" GM. Ownership decided to go Moneyball and hands the keys to two guys who had no personnel experience in the NFL...one of whom had zero football experience period.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Oct 18, 2017 at 1:32 PM ]
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Eli_23:
They need to clean house in Cleveland. Hue and his GM should get canned

It isnt "his" GM. Ownership decided to go Moneyball and hands the keys to two guys who had no personnel experience in the NFL...one of whom had zero football experience period.

Kinda like Paraag and Jed?
Originally posted by jcs:
Kinda like Paraag and Jed?

Are Paraag and Jed the acting GM? Have they interefered in any actual personnel decisions?




The guy hired as the Browns GM is a longtime NFL lawyer who had never worked in any personnel department anywhere. The assistant GM is a baseball analytics guy who has never worked in football on any level.


They are the only front office in football where neither of the top 2 executives have any prior scouting experience.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Oct 18, 2017 at 2:46 PM ]
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jcs:
Kinda like Paraag and Jed?

Are Paraag and Jed the acting GM? Have they interefered in any actual personnel decisions?

The guy hired as the Browns GM is a longtime NFL lawyer who had never worked in any personnel department anywhere. The assistant GM is a baseball analytics guy who has never worked in football on any level.

They are the only front office in football where neither of the top 2 executives have any prior scouting experience.

Jed and Paraag decisions have included firing the last 3 HC's in the last 3 years while keeping the worst GM in 49er history and that has had a direct impact on the current roster. Paragg has also surprisingly been heavily involved in this team over the last 17 years and we all know how this team has done over that time frame and he's also been looked at as a central character getting in the way of and getting involved in the whole Harbaugh "mutual departure" debacle. The stories of Walsh disliking him as he was getting shown the door speak volumes to me.
[ Edited by jcs on Oct 18, 2017 at 3:53 PM ]
Originally posted by jcs:
Jed and Paraag decisions have included firing the last 3 HC's in the last 3 years while keeping the worst GM in 49er history and that has had a direct impact on the current roster. Paragg has also surprisingly been heavily involved in this team over the last 17 years and we all know how this team has done over that time frame and he's also been looked at as a central character getting in the way of and getting involved in the whole Harbaugh "mutual departure" debacle. The stories of Walsh disliking him as he was getting shown the door speak volumes to me.




So no?
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jcs:
Jed and Paraag decisions have included firing the last 3 HC's in the last 3 years while keeping the worst GM in 49er history and that has had a direct impact on the current roster. Paragg has also surprisingly been heavily involved in this team over the last 17 years and we all know how this team has done over that time frame and he's also been looked at as a central character getting in the way of and getting involved in the whole Harbaugh "mutual departure" debacle. The stories of Walsh disliking him as he was getting shown the door speak volumes to me.


So no?
If you feel keeping Baalke in power as long as they did had no impact then sure....
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Cleveland is just a mess....


The Tank is back on...and of any team in the NFL they are probably the only team that actually tanks for draft picks...

sometimes i think we should actually do what the NBA does and make a lottery of the bottom 5-10 teams so that teams arent compelled to tank
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