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Oct 31, 2017 at 9:49 AM
- NeKro
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I don't know how I feel about this yet.
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:49 AM
- crabman82
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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:Pats fans have somewhat calmed down, but are now mad that BB and Kraft didnt take Cleveland's two 1st rd picks earlier before the season. I do like that they think our D will be legit in a few seasons.
"If JG never was viewed by BB as Brady's potential successor, then the Patriots conducted themselves incoherently by not trading him for a bigger return last spring and entering contract talks with him over the spring and summer. I have no doubt they badly wanted to retain him as Brady's eventual successor and tried, as far as even considering franchising him according to multiple reports. There really is no other explanation for keeping such a valuable asset as long as they did under present circumstances. Otherwise, they would have traded him last spring and retained Brissett as backup."
"with stud qbs in this draft, why didn't SF just draft one with the 1st or 2nd overall pick and save their #2 pick? They must value Jimmy G much more obviously.."
"99% of rookies have no idea what their doing for a long while. Jimmy is light years ahead of anyone coming out. Something else I've been saying since this last draft is SF will have a nasty D very soon. Possibly the best in a year or 2. They have some legit studs on that team and the fans have no idea. Jacksonville should have been all over Jimmy."
https://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/threads/jimmy-garoppolo-traded-to-sf-for-2018-2nd-round-draft-pick.1141642/page-38
Didnt rapaport tweet that clevs offer was a 2nd and some other stuff and not two 1sts?
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:49 AM
- mayo49
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Originally posted by cortana49:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by walker807:Barkley is going top 3...we're probably drafting Oline as bad as the blocking has been this year, especially after landing our QB.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Yes, I wish we could've traded the Saints 2nd rounder instead, but considering the fact that we will be drafting very high and people will probably give up a kings ransom for our 1st rounder, so I bet we unloaded it for tons of other picks to continue to build the team and fill the multitude of holes we have.
Jimmy G could be the guy we've always needed. But we desperately need to get OL help to protect whoever is behind center. I hope this works out. It was clear we had to do something. At the end of the day, it's worth the risk of a 2nd rounder.
A perfect scenario would be to trade back with a top 10 team who is QB desperate like we did with the bears and still land Barkley.
Yep. OL, big time.
As much as I want a pass rusher or Wr, OL is a must.
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:50 AM
- Fanaticofnfl
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Originally posted by jcs:
Just curious but is anyone buying the narrative in the sports talk media that Bill was doing KS and his dad Mike a solid because they are friends by giving us Garoppolo?
Didn't even know this was a narrative. The narrative I keep hearing is Belichick didn't want to help the Browns. Whether it was because they're in the AFC or he just has a grudge against them I do not know, but he did send them Jamie Collins.
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:50 AM
- LottOfDefense
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This quote from Belichick makes me think that the Browns offered their 2nd round pick but Jimmy preferred SF over Cleveland. But than again who wouldn't?
Belichick said: "I have a tremendous amount of respect for Jimmy. I couldn't ask for him to give us any more than he has given us. The 49ers are getting a good player, they are getting a good person, and they're getting a great teammate, and they are getting a good quarterback. And Jimmy is getting a good coach. His career is moving forward. He's a talented individual. He was a great person to coach. I met with him weekly. But as his career moves forward, we have to look at our team, both this year and beyond."
Belichick said: "I have a tremendous amount of respect for Jimmy. I couldn't ask for him to give us any more than he has given us. The 49ers are getting a good player, they are getting a good person, and they're getting a great teammate, and they are getting a good quarterback. And Jimmy is getting a good coach. His career is moving forward. He's a talented individual. He was a great person to coach. I met with him weekly. But as his career moves forward, we have to look at our team, both this year and beyond."
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:51 AM
- OnTheClock
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Would wait until after the bye so hopefully Staley is back and then see what Jimmy G can do.
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:51 AM
- VaBeachNiner
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Presser is at 3pm PDT. Also this:
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:51 AM
- tankle104
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God damnit! I want to know what number he is going to choose. I know many of us expect 10 but I want to know now!
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:52 AM
- NeKro
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Originally posted by LottOfDefense:This quote from Belichick makes me think that the Browns offered their 2nd round pick but Jimmy preferred SF over Cleveland. But than again who wouldn't?
Belichick said: "I have a tremendous amount of respect for Jimmy. I couldn't ask for him to give us any more than he has given us. The 49ers are getting a good player, they are getting a good person, and they're getting a great teammate, and they are getting a good quarterback. And Jimmy is getting a good coach. His career is moving forward. He's a talented individual. He was a great person to coach. I met with him weekly. But as his career moves forward, we have to look at our team, both this year and beyond."
Lol. We aren't much better at this point. I guess living in California was a better option.
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:52 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:Pats fans have somewhat calmed down, but are now mad that BB and Kraft didnt take Cleveland's two 1st rd picks earlier before the season. I do like that they think our D will be legit in a few seasons.
"If JG never was viewed by BB as Brady's potential successor, then the Patriots conducted themselves incoherently by not trading him for a bigger return last spring and entering contract talks with him over the spring and summer. I have no doubt they badly wanted to retain him as Brady's eventual successor and tried, as far as even considering franchising him according to multiple reports. There really is no other explanation for keeping such a valuable asset as long as they did under present circumstances. Otherwise, they would have traded him last spring and retained Brissett as backup."
"with stud qbs in this draft, why didn't SF just draft one with the 1st or 2nd overall pick and save their #2 pick? They must value Jimmy G much more obviously.."
"99% of rookies have no idea what their doing for a long while. Jimmy is light years ahead of anyone coming out. Something else I've been saying since this last draft is SF will have a nasty D very soon. Possibly the best in a year or 2. They have some legit studs on that team and the fans have no idea. Jacksonville should have been all over Jimmy."
https://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/threads/jimmy-garoppolo-traded-to-sf-for-2018-2nd-round-draft-pick.1141642/page-38
LOL...Pats fans know us better than we know ourselves.
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:53 AM
- D0PEMAN
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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Presser is at 3pm PDT. Also this:
the cheerleaders are carrying him in riding on top of a golden lion
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:53 AM
- pasodoc9er
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Just finished a couple hour reveiw of the Jimmy G thread and here are a couple observations , some made already.
Was surprised we signed a QB when we needed and OG and C.
That aside, Cuzins was good enough to run the team but i sure didn't see him leading this team to a SB. And the price tag for the quality was just not a good deal $25-30 mil per ...and which he will get. Fortunately we won't be the ones paying him. At best a good Qb but not FR Qb. My opinion only.
This obviates the need that we take Darnold, Rosen or Josh Allen (WYO), now that i have seen them all.... nobody i see there as potential FR QB....despite the early season adulation piled on these guys. And Darnold...stay in college another yr son.
So with no cuzins, none of the top 3 Qbs, Jimmy G seems like a very good ....nope make that best choice. Truly i hope he isn't fragile, which i got from his getting injure shortly after Brady did and hence he didn't help out much once brady went down. PATS could have scored a 1 plus change earlier in season. But now that Brady has shown he can play into his late 60s, i guess Jimmy Gs time was up. They couldn't afford to pay two QBs for starters salaries. Also he is a good deal relatively, hopefully in the $20 mil per yr mold. With no real experiecnce in games that has to limit his top salary. So a good deal there too.
Next is sitting like A Rodgers did for 4 yrs behind Favre. Jimmy G did the same behind Brady. So hopefully he was learning as he watched. How could he help but not do that. Gotta like this too. So JG is ready to go vs any of the less than desirable top qBs this yr in draft. Big advantage 49ers. Downside: if bellichek gets rid of them...they may not be very good. Gotta remember this one.
The killer tho...Jimmy G coming here does not make our non existent OL one lick better. So i am uneasy putting a potential FR QB behind that horrible, ugly, nasty, invisible OL. He could get injured easily on any play....because we always have DLs gettign free shots at our qBs.
Another positive is that JG is a WCO, and is a perfect fit for shanny. Now he just has to decide which DLs he uses to help protect him on O. And that better be done or JG will be out for season if he has nobody to block for him.
CJ: Well with no OL, he proved he cannot function, which is no surprise. I am going to be very impressed if JG can pull that off.
And final observation....with potential FR QB taken care of , now F.O can focus on OG, C , OG. And they all need to be all pro starters. So FA. Then we can focus on #1 WR, CBs, S, ILB, OLB, (PLUS DEPTH EVERYWHERE), DL, additional RB. So this hire takes blowing a bundle on guys who are not FR QB talent out of the equation. I give high marks for this trade, and just before the bell, too. The bell is probably why it happened. NOw lynch and Shan need to work on their rather poor skills of picking OL talent. Hooray for the 9ers. Oh and CJ...gets a couple yrs to see if he can be the FR Qb 2-3 yrs out.
Was surprised we signed a QB when we needed and OG and C.
That aside, Cuzins was good enough to run the team but i sure didn't see him leading this team to a SB. And the price tag for the quality was just not a good deal $25-30 mil per ...and which he will get. Fortunately we won't be the ones paying him. At best a good Qb but not FR Qb. My opinion only.
This obviates the need that we take Darnold, Rosen or Josh Allen (WYO), now that i have seen them all.... nobody i see there as potential FR QB....despite the early season adulation piled on these guys. And Darnold...stay in college another yr son.
So with no cuzins, none of the top 3 Qbs, Jimmy G seems like a very good ....nope make that best choice. Truly i hope he isn't fragile, which i got from his getting injure shortly after Brady did and hence he didn't help out much once brady went down. PATS could have scored a 1 plus change earlier in season. But now that Brady has shown he can play into his late 60s, i guess Jimmy Gs time was up. They couldn't afford to pay two QBs for starters salaries. Also he is a good deal relatively, hopefully in the $20 mil per yr mold. With no real experiecnce in games that has to limit his top salary. So a good deal there too.
Next is sitting like A Rodgers did for 4 yrs behind Favre. Jimmy G did the same behind Brady. So hopefully he was learning as he watched. How could he help but not do that. Gotta like this too. So JG is ready to go vs any of the less than desirable top qBs this yr in draft. Big advantage 49ers. Downside: if bellichek gets rid of them...they may not be very good. Gotta remember this one.
The killer tho...Jimmy G coming here does not make our non existent OL one lick better. So i am uneasy putting a potential FR QB behind that horrible, ugly, nasty, invisible OL. He could get injured easily on any play....because we always have DLs gettign free shots at our qBs.
Another positive is that JG is a WCO, and is a perfect fit for shanny. Now he just has to decide which DLs he uses to help protect him on O. And that better be done or JG will be out for season if he has nobody to block for him.
CJ: Well with no OL, he proved he cannot function, which is no surprise. I am going to be very impressed if JG can pull that off.
And final observation....with potential FR QB taken care of , now F.O can focus on OG, C , OG. And they all need to be all pro starters. So FA. Then we can focus on #1 WR, CBs, S, ILB, OLB, (PLUS DEPTH EVERYWHERE), DL, additional RB. So this hire takes blowing a bundle on guys who are not FR QB talent out of the equation. I give high marks for this trade, and just before the bell, too. The bell is probably why it happened. NOw lynch and Shan need to work on their rather poor skills of picking OL talent. Hooray for the 9ers. Oh and CJ...gets a couple yrs to see if he can be the FR Qb 2-3 yrs out.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Oct 31, 2017 at 9:54 AM ]
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:53 AM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by tankle104:10 is already being used
God damnit! I want to know what number he is going to choose. I know many of us expect 10 but I want to know now!
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:53 AM
- 49er_Rider
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John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan will introduce Jimmy Garoppolo at 3 p.m. PST. #49ers
Oct 31, 2017 at 9:53 AM
- mayo49
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Pats fans have somewhat calmed down, but are now mad that BB and Kraft didnt take Cleveland's two 1st rd picks earlier before the season. I do like that they think our D will be legit in a few seasons.
"If JG never was viewed by BB as Brady's potential successor, then the Patriots conducted themselves incoherently by not trading him for a bigger return last spring and entering contract talks with him over the spring and summer. I have no doubt they badly wanted to retain him as Brady's eventual successor and tried, as far as even considering franchising him according to multiple reports. There really is no other explanation for keeping such a valuable asset as long as they did under present circumstances. Otherwise, they would have traded him last spring and retained Brissett as backup."
"with stud qbs in this draft, why didn't SF just draft one with the 1st or 2nd overall pick and save their #2 pick? They must value Jimmy G much more obviously.."
"99% of rookies have no idea what their doing for a long while. Jimmy is light years ahead of anyone coming out. Something else I've been saying since this last draft is SF will have a nasty D very soon. Possibly the best in a year or 2. They have some legit studs on that team and the fans have no idea. Jacksonville should have been all over Jimmy."
https://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/threads/jimmy-garoppolo-traded-to-sf-for-2018-2nd-round-draft-pick.1141642/page-38
LOL...Pats fans know us better than we know ourselves.
That's why SF is Boston West.