Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sourball:
This may have been brought up, but what type of $$ do you think it will take to sign JG to a long-term contract? I'm sure he won't settle for Hoyer's contract but will he command franchise tag type $$ with his limited NFL playing resume?

I'm thinking something like Bock got from the Texans 4 yrs $70 million maybe somewhere around $35 guaranteed. That's sam bradford money as well.

I was so wrong about the money Bradford would have been paid. Never thought that he will get 15+ Mio.

Originally posted by slowriot:
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If you connect trade dots on 4 SF deals, you'll find 49ers got Reuben Foster and Jimmy Garoppolo simply for moving down 1 spot last April.

Did we trade the 2nd round pick we got from the Saints?

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by jays9ers:
Am I the only one skeptical of this trade? I'm excited but just don't know if Jimmy G is 'The Man'. If he is, then we're in a better position this off season. We're staring at the first or second pick in the draft. If we can trade back and get a boat load of picks then we could really do some damage.

This trade has skepticism built into it. If they were 100% sure, NE could have asked for their 1st given what it was rumored the Browns offered last year.

Just my opinion but any other QB than the GOAT and his OCD scientific approach to maintaining his health and they keep Garoppolo.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by slowriot:
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If you connect trade dots on 4 SF deals, you'll find 49ers got Reuben Foster and Jimmy Garoppolo simply for moving down 1 spot last April.

Did we trade the 2nd round pick we got from the Saints?

Yea, im confused....

It was our pick. Nice thought, but not quite. FO is doing good things regardless though.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by slowriot:
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If you connect trade dots on 4 SF deals, you'll find 49ers got Reuben Foster and Jimmy Garoppolo simply for moving down 1 spot last April.

Did we trade the 2nd round pick we got from the Saints?

No, we still got it.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by jays9ers:

Am I the only one skeptical of this trade? I'm excited but just don't know if Jimmy G is 'The Man'. If he is, then we're in a better position this off season. We're staring at the first or second pick in the draft. If we can trade back and get a boat load of picks then we could really do some damage.

This trade has skepticism built into it. If they were 100% sure, NE could have asked for their 1st given what it was rumored the Browns offered last year.

Browns never offered a 1st the truth from what I've read (mike sliver who's bros with hue) is it was a 2nd and "change"

The facts were The pats tried to give jimmy g an extension this past off season, but they couldn't get a deal...I'm guessing but I doubt he wanted backup money and didn't want to sit behind Tom for the next 3 yrs, so after that they made a move with SF.

Will he be the next star or just an average qb only time will tell BUT from everything I've read and what people are saying NE didn't want to lose jimmy G but didn't really have a choice.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by slowriot:
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If you connect trade dots on 4 SF deals, you'll find 49ers got Reuben Foster and Jimmy Garoppolo simply for moving down 1 spot last April.

well if you put it that way

We still traded our own 2nd for foster....but hell yeah!

Originally posted by communist:

I was so wrong about the money Bradford would have been paid. Never thought that he will get 15+ Mio.

Qbs get overpaid I'm sure JG will as well...is what it is.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

This trade has skepticism built into it. If they were 100% sure, NE could have asked for their 1st given what it was rumored the Browns offered last year.

I dont buy that a 1st rounder was ever on the table for New England and certainly not in October. It came down to them taking the best offer available or watching Garoppolo walk at season's end.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
Heck. why would the Pats NOT trade him?

That should be the question... he's all under POTENTIAL as off this moment... why say NO to a high 2nd rounder?

Bilichick would probably be retiring anyhow once BRADY's done.. so why not win as much as he can NOW while he still has a QB..

In Bilichick's head, what's Grappy done thus far???

Could he only be the next Cassel... Scott Mitchell.. Doug Johnson... Steve Walsh...???

or, will he be the next STEVE YOUNG??

They tried to resign him all last off season apparently, but jimmy G didn't want half ass money or to sit behind tommy for the next 3 yrs...so they had 3 decisions 1. Let him walk and get a 3rd rd comp pick in 2019 2. Tag him and make your backup the 5th Highest paid qb in the league (and make more money than Tommy) 3. Trade him for a 2nd to a NFC west team.

Go look at what BB and everyone of those pats players have said about jimmy G. BIll Stated....

"First of all, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Jimmy. I couldn't ask for him to give us any more than he's given us. The 49ers are getting a good player, they're getting a good person, and they're getting a great teammate, and they're getting a good quarterback. And Jimmy's getting a good coach. His career is moving forward. He's a talented individual. He's a great person to coach. I met with him weekly, and again, I have a tremendous amount of respect for him."

I couldn't recall him ever saying any of that about his past qbs that got moved. You got guys like ninkovich saying his gonna be a star and has a bright future

http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/rob-ninkovich-future-very-bright-jimmy-garoppolo

I don't remember teammates saying s**t about matt cassel.

Also I agree with you it looks like Bill wants to hanging up when tommy retires so time to get the best players that can play right now and win as much as possible in the next 3 yrs.

it isn't a surprised to me if they tried to sign him again 3 years ago.. no one knew then how good Brady will still be..

This is not a shot to you bro, but look what the 49ers did w/Montana... had Steve Young the one that got traded to KC, and we end up with Derek Thomas, no doubt in my mind that we would have beaten Dallas in 91 and 92... and the two GB defeats would have never happened if Joe was our QB.

Bill realized now that Brady can still be around for at least 2 more year, (2018 & 2019) and like I said before, why not collect picks and keep on collecting players that would help him and Brady win a couple of more SUPER BOWLS.. ..

Worst case, we blow a 2nd round pick. Glad it wasnt a 1st

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by slowriot:

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If you connect trade dots on 4 SF deals, you'll find 49ers got Reuben Foster and Jimmy Garoppolo simply for moving down 1 spot last April.

Did we trade the 2nd round pick we got from the Saints?

No it's our own pick. Which imo is a steal

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by slowriot:
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If you connect trade dots on 4 SF deals, you'll find 49ers got Reuben Foster and Jimmy Garoppolo simply for moving down 1 spot last April.

well if you put it that way

We still traded our own 2nd for foster....but hell yeah!

they are still both ours, well it was

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
Heck. why would the Pats NOT trade him?

That should be the question... he's all under POTENTIAL as off this moment... why say NO to a high 2nd rounder?

Bilichick would probably be retiring anyhow once BRADY's done.. so why not win as much as he can NOW while he still has a QB..

In Bilichick's head, what's Grappy done thus far???

Could he only be the next Cassel... Scott Mitchell.. Doug Johnson... Steve Walsh...???

or, will he be the next STEVE YOUNG??

They tried to resign him all last off season apparently, but jimmy G didn't want half ass money or to sit behind tommy for the next 3 yrs...so they had 3 decisions 1. Let him walk and get a 3rd rd comp pick in 2019 2. Tag him and make your backup the 5th Highest paid qb in the league (and make more money than Tommy) 3. Trade him for a 2nd to a NFC west team.

Go look at what BB and everyone of those pats players have said about jimmy G. BIll Stated....

"First of all, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Jimmy. I couldn't ask for him to give us any more than he's given us. The 49ers are getting a good player, they're getting a good person, and they're getting a great teammate, and they're getting a good quarterback. And Jimmy's getting a good coach. His career is moving forward. He's a talented individual. He's a great person to coach. I met with him weekly, and again, I have a tremendous amount of respect for him."

I couldn't recall him ever saying any of that about his past qbs that got moved. You got guys like ninkovich saying his gonna be a star and has a bright future

http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/rob-ninkovich-future-very-bright-jimmy-garoppolo

I don't remember teammates saying s**t about matt cassel.

Also I agree with you it looks like Bill wants to hanging up when tommy retires so time to get the best players that can play right now and win as much as possible in the next 3 yrs.

There is no sure thing but this is about as good of a trade for the 49ers as it gets. They get an 8-game audition of a potential starting caliber QB with the option to extend at their convenience for a 2nd round pick. Considering the going rate for a QB these days along with the 49ers ability to recoup that pick (should JimmyG pass the audition) easily available to them anyways. I love this move for San Francisco and I love this move for New England. Bethard gets to ease back into the role many always assumed he'd take (backup QB) and the QB issue might very well be resolved with a top 5 pick in hand to boot.

Originally posted by socalniner:
Worst case, we blow a 2nd round pick. Glad it wasnt a 1st

We've blown a 2nd rounder before (lamichael james )