Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Jimmy turning full grown men into this..,

Originally posted by NinerGM:

The article posted on the front page that analyzes Jimmy's long ball. Valid point. Most of the bad footwork used as an example came because Beadles was a poor RT, however, some did not and there is room for improvement. I'm not sure our OL options as yet have proven they will be much better than Beadles out there. However, we'll save the OL discussion for the OL thread.

I'd like to know what people thoughts are about Jimmy's footwork and his accuracy on long passes. This has been an issue in NE, as the writer of the article discussed.

Thought?

I don't think it's that big a deal. Deep ball usually more timing between qb and his receivers. How well he gauges each of his receivers run underneath the ball. Jimmy had almost 0 time to work on that last year, coming in cold off a trade.

He has already gathered some guys with him in the offseason to make throws and catches. I don't see Jimmy abandoning his footwork in the offseason either.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

The article posted on the front page that analyzes Jimmy's long ball. Valid point. Most of the bad footwork used as an example came because Beadles was a poor RT, however, some did not and there is room for improvement. I'm not sure our OL options as yet have proven they will be much better than Beadles out there. However, we'll save the OL discussion for the OL thread.

I'd like to know what people thoughts are about Jimmy's footwork and his accuracy on long passes. This has been an issue in NE, as the writer of the article discussed.

Thought?

Just the eye test from last year: He wasn't accurate on the deep ball. Don't know why, saw a vid where it looked like bad footwork (but that same footwork is partially responsible for some of the off-balance quick-release accurate mid/short range great throws/plays he made).

Let's assume going forward that he sucks as a deep ball passer. I'm okay with it. Converting 3rd downs, throwing under 2 seconds, with accuracy, and extending plays is far more important than the ability to be accurate on a 45 yard bomb.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
The article posted on the front page that analyzes Jimmy's long ball. Valid point. Most of the bad footwork used as an example came because Beadles was a poor RT, however, some did not and there is room for improvement. I'm not sure our OL options as yet have proven they will be much better than Beadles out there. However, we'll save the OL discussion for the OL thread.

I'd like to know what people thoughts are about Jimmy's footwork and his accuracy on long passes. This has been an issue in NE, as the writer of the article discussed.

Thought?

That analysis seemed pretty good to me. Last year I commented that he seemed to be relying on his upper body too much on long balls and that that might be effecting his accuracy. It makes sense that if he isn't planting his forward foot properly that he can't get as much "oomph" from his lower body and especially on longer balls his accuracy can suffer as a result.

But, I think Jimmy G might have that tendency because he possesses the ability to assess the action in a play so quickly and is able to release the ball so quickly that he may feel that if the rest of his body is ready to let it fly then his feet are a bit of any afterthought if they aren't already also in proper position. If that is the case (a bit "if" admittedly) then the terrible o-line protection last year probably just made that tendency worse. Also, some of the inaccuracy on longer throws might have been due to his not knowing the system or the receivers very well.

Jimmy G is cool-headed in the pocket but on long passes where he has time before pressure, it may be that he needs to be a little more patient to get his lower body and feet aligned better so that his upper body doesn't have to try to get more force on the ball. The part of the article that attributes some of his accuracy problems to that seems very plausible.

Originally posted by 49erphan:

Originally posted by NinerGM:
The article posted on the front page that analyzes Jimmy's long ball. Valid point. Most of the bad footwork used as an example came because Beadles was a poor RT, however, some did not and there is room for improvement. I'm not sure our OL options as yet have proven they will be much better than Beadles out there. However, we'll save the OL discussion for the OL thread.

I'd like to know what people thoughts are about Jimmy's footwork and his accuracy on long passes. This has been an issue in NE, as the writer of the article discussed.

Thought?

That analysis seemed pretty good to me. Last year I commented that he seemed to be relying on his upper body too much on long balls and that that might be effecting his accuracy. It makes sense that if he isn't planting his forward foot properly that he can't get as much "oomph" from his lower body and especially on longer balls his accuracy can suffer as a result.

But, I think Jimmy G might have that tendency because he possesses the ability to assess the action in a play so quickly and is able to release the ball so quickly that he may feel that if the rest of his body is ready to let it fly then his feet are a bit of any afterthought if they aren't already also in proper position. If that is the case (a bit "if" admittedly) then the terrible o-line protection last year probably just made that tendency worse. Also, some of the inaccuracy on longer throws might have been due to his not knowing the system or the receivers very well.

Jimmy G is cool-headed in the pocket but on long passes where he has time before pressure, it may be that he needs to be a little more patient to get his lower body and feet aligned better so that his upper body doesn't have to try to get more force on the ball. The part of the article that attributes some of his accuracy problems to that seems very plausible.

Same. Even when you watch his 'highlights' he's twisting his body to protect himself from hits or pressures coming right up the gut or off the edge. I was starting to worry he'd start to develop some bad foot/body mechanics Gabbert-style. Throw that reality into deep balls and the added chemistry and timing that is needed to make those low % plays happen, and no doubt, that was and will be, the last thing he'll develop with us. But it will come the more he's comfortable in the pass protection and can consistently step up and throw with confidence.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
The article posted on the front page that analyzes Jimmy's long ball. Valid point. Most of the bad footwork used as an example came because Beadles was a poor RT, however, some did not and there is room for improvement. I'm not sure our OL options as yet have proven they will be much better than Beadles out there. However, we'll save the OL discussion for the OL thread.

I'd like to know what people thoughts are about Jimmy's footwork and his accuracy on long passes. This has been an issue in NE, as the writer of the article discussed.

Thought?

There was a video on YouTube after the season that essentially covered the same issues in regard to Garopollo's footwork and how his failure to adjust his feet to create a solid throwing base affected his accuracy on deep balls. Hopefully this is something that can be addressed through good coaching and a willingness on his part to improve. Not all QB's who make it to this level have shown that willingness, we had one here for awhile, they think that what got them there is good enough to keep them going. That will be the next test of Garopollo's evolution as a starter. On the subject of his feet though, I was watching video on the NFL site of Josh Allen and Josh Rosen's first day of camp and was really struck by how much slower their drop backs were compared to similar video of Jimmy G. after he arrived at the 49er's practice field last year. Garopollo has amazingly quick feet when he is moving away from the center. That is something that Walsh always liked about Joe apparently was his quick feet. I think that is one of the keys to his ability to get the ball out of his hands especially on those short and intermediate routes. Really looking forward to seeing how this offense is going to look this season with a full year under it's belt and the addition of some of the new players. They really could light things up. Go Niner's!!

Originally posted by 49ers81:
There was a video on YouTube after the season that essentially covered the same issues in regard to Garopollo's footwork and how his failure to adjust his feet to create a solid throwing base affected his accuracy on deep balls. Hopefully this is something that can be addressed through good coaching and a willingness on his part to improve. Not all QB's who make it to this level have shown that willingness, we had one here for awhile, they think that what got them there is good enough to keep them going. That will be the next test of Garopollo's evolution as a starter. On the subject of his feet though, I was watching video on the NFL site of Josh Allen and Josh Rosen's first day of camp and was really struck by how much slower their drop backs were compared to similar video of Jimmy G. after he arrived at the 49er's practice field last year. Garopollo has amazingly quick feet when he is moving away from the center. That is something that Walsh always liked about Joe apparently was his quick feet. I think that is one of the keys to his ability to get the ball out of his hands especially on those short and intermediate routes. Really looking forward to seeing how this offense is going to look this season with a full year under it's belt and the addition of some of the new players. They really could light things up. Go Niner's!!

This one.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by NinerGM:
The article posted on the front page that analyzes Jimmy's long ball. Valid point. Most of the bad footwork used as an example came because Beadles was a poor RT, however, some did not and there is room for improvement. I'm not sure our OL options as yet have proven they will be much better than Beadles out there. However, we'll save the OL discussion for the OL thread.

I'd like to know what people thoughts are about Jimmy's footwork and his accuracy on long passes. This has been an issue in NE, as the writer of the article discussed.

Thought?

I don't think it's that big a deal. Deep ball usually more timing between qb and his receivers. How well he gauges each of his receivers run underneath the ball. Jimmy had almost 0 time to work on that last year, coming in cold off a trade.

He has already gathered some guys with him in the offseason to make throws and catches. I don't see Jimmy abandoning his footwork in the offseason either.

Agree, and I'll just add that our O Line was incapable of protecting a 7 step drop last year, so I totally would understand Jimmy's inaccuracy on 7 step drop back patterns last year.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
There was a video on YouTube after the season that essentially covered the same issues in regard to Garopollo's footwork and how his failure to adjust his feet to create a solid throwing base affected his accuracy on deep balls. Hopefully this is something that can be addressed through good coaching and a willingness on his part to improve. Not all QB's who make it to this level have shown that willingness, we had one here for awhile, they think that what got them there is good enough to keep them going. That will be the next test of Garopollo's evolution as a starter. On the subject of his feet though, I was watching video on the NFL site of Josh Allen and Josh Rosen's first day of camp and was really struck by how much slower their drop backs were compared to similar video of Jimmy G. after he arrived at the 49er's practice field last year. Garopollo has amazingly quick feet when he is moving away from the center. That is something that Walsh always liked about Joe apparently was his quick feet. I think that is one of the keys to his ability to get the ball out of his hands especially on those short and intermediate routes. Really looking forward to seeing how this offense is going to look this season with a full year under it's belt and the addition of some of the new players. They really could light things up. Go Niner's!!

This one.

Yep, that's the one. Worth checking out for any of you who haven't seen it

Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Just the eye test from last year: He wasn't accurate on the deep ball. Don't know why, saw a vid where it looked like bad footwork (but that same footwork is partially responsible for some of the off-balance quick-release accurate mid/short range great throws/plays he made).

Let's assume going forward that he sucks as a deep ball passer. I'm okay with it. Converting 3rd downs, throwing under 2 seconds, with accuracy, and extending plays is far more important than the ability to be accurate on a 45 yard bomb.

The deep ball and scrambling is the only thing Wilson does better than JG *right now*.

JG will close the gap on the deep ball and then will be 100% superior to Wilson.

I predict more 9 routes with Goodwin and Pettis

Originally posted by Joecool:
Good thing he's not working on his arms and abs.

lol random.

Originally posted by Niners99:


lol random.

From Kittle's IG account. They were at Bellator 199.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:

lol random.

From Kittle's IG account. They were at Bellator 199.

We signing Fiddy?