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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I honestly wouldn't even play him this season. Raise him right Kyle.

Yeah, I'm with you. Let him learn the playbook without rushing him to get on the field. Beathard can hold the fort until Jimmy's ready to go.

Wait, what? Exactly what would your plan be in the offseason when his contract is up? $23 million on the tag? Or just because? Am I the only person who remembers Matt Flynn? Let him prove his worth. Unless you want a QB that can only function under perfect circumstances, that is...
[ Edited by ronniefreakinlott42 on Oct 31, 2017 at 8:59 PM ]
Blew my mind when I saw the news yesterday.

Really looking forward to seeing him get on the field.
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I honestly wouldn't even play him this season. Raise him right Kyle.

Yeah, I'm with you. Let him learn the playbook without rushing him to get on the field. Beathard can hold the fort until Jimmy's ready to go.

Wait, what? Exactly what would your plan be in the offseason when his contract is up? $23 million on the tag? Or just because? Am I the only person who remembers how that worked out with Matt Flynn? Let him prove his worth. Unless you want a QB that can only function under perfect circumstances, that is...

Yeah, Kyle's going to be like a kid with a new Christmas toy. Teach him 20 pass plays and get him in there so he can coach him up.
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Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I honestly wouldn't even play him this season. Raise him right Kyle.

Yeah, I'm with you. Let him learn the playbook without rushing him to get on the field. Beathard can hold the fort until Jimmy's ready to go.

Wait, what? Exactly what would your plan be in the offseason when his contract is up? $23 million on the tag? Or just because? Am I the only person who remembers how that worked out with Matt Flynn? Let him prove his worth. Unless you want a QB that can only function under perfect circumstances, that is...

I wish he was ready today and have him start on Sunday, but that's not reality. He needs to learn at least enough to function on the field. That could take the rest of the season to accomplish.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Oct 31, 2017 at 9:00 PM ]
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I honestly wouldn't even play him this season. Raise him right Kyle.

That's what I'm saying. Let Beathard take the beating for the rest of the year lol

You two would make a TERRIBLE coach and or GM.
[ Edited by Jcool on Oct 31, 2017 at 8:59 PM ]
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I honestly wouldn't even play him this season. Raise him right Kyle.

Yeah, I'm with you. Let him learn the playbook without rushing him to get on the field. Beathard can hold the fort until Jimmy's ready to go.

Wait, what? Exactly what would your plan be in the offseason when his contract is up? $23 million on the tag? Or just because? Am I the only person who remembers how that worked out with Matt Flynn? Let him prove his worth. Unless you want a QB that can only function under perfect circumstances, that is...

I wish he was ready today and have him start on Sunday, but that's not reality. He needs to learn at least enough to function on the field.

Totally get a period of learning. But he HAS to see action before seasons end. I don't know when, ideally after our bye. But practice only reveals so much. Need to see how he is under adversity.
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Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
He looks like the real deal throwing the rock.

my only concern is his small frame. I hope he can stay healthy behind this awful line.

Then again, this was Brady coming out college...




Small frame?

I don't know about you, he looks pretty well built to me.

[ Edited by Rascal on Oct 31, 2017 at 9:09 PM ]
Originally posted by NC49er:
I doubt KS & JL's jobs depend on a QB acquisition in their first year of a 6 year deal. And to succently address the rest of your concerns you mentioned... None of us on this forum know all the circumstances surrounding the decision. How do you know JG would have been cheaper in the off season? You do not know that. The 2 in charge have been around and involved in the NFL their entire adult lives, I think they have more facts than anyone on this board,trust them. If you would rather have Baalke back and Tomsula, Singletary, Kelley back they would take you up on it most likely.

This trade basically establishes JG will be the QB for their entire tenure. A negative-best case scenario is he immediately flames out and they move on from him after next year. The odds, then, of securing a FQB and doing something expected of this team by the end of six years (i.e. being a perennial Super Bowl contender) are significantly lower at that point.

Further, no one said he would absolutely be cheaper in the off season. But, having no sample size this year versus him lighting it up (assume, for the sake of the argument, these are the only two options) means he will have a heftier price tag. Just like in KC's situation. Had KC been terrible this year he would get paid less than he would versus playing well.

I only have two issues with this trade:

A) JG is going to get paid. Regardless. Had they waited until he entered free agency the 49ers would have had to pay him X. Now, they are still going to pay him X + their 2nd round pick. It seems disingenuous of people to, on one hand, cite potential costs here, while at the same time, in other threads, note the 49ers' absurd amount of cap space and thus their desire to overpay if necessary to secure position x, y, z.

* As an aside, if a deal was worked out prior to this trade I (as JG) would fire my agent immediately, because it leaves, potentially, a lot of money on the table.

B) I have not seen enough of him to make me think he is a FQB. Show me success in obscure places with average talent, not in a place where you are surrounded by one of the best HCs in NFL history, and, even with their injuries at the time, a fairly good surrounding cast.

NC said JG is the best option, along with KC, in 2018. I don't dispute that. I am fully willing to disregard B above as simply the risk associated with the pursuit of finding a FQB.

My gripe then, specifically, concerns cost. And, not the overall cost, but the opportunity cost of giving up a second round pick for someone you could have had (at least the opportunity for) in FA for cash alone. Be honest, JG is not turning this team into a Super Bowl contender, and that is, after all, the entire point / ultimate goal. The 49ers are still many players away from that. At least two draft / FA cycles, assuming a fairly high percentage of successful decisions.
[ Edited by Polkadots on Oct 31, 2017 at 9:03 PM ]
Originally posted by Rascal:
Small frame?

I don't know about you, he looks pretty well build to me.


Gay for Garoppolo?
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I honestly wouldn't even play him this season. Raise him right Kyle.

That's what I'm saying. Let Beathard take the beating for the rest of the year lol

You two would make a TERRIBLE coach and or GM.

I don't know how they could misread Kyle's aggressive mindset. They may want to be passive, but that's not who Kyle Shanahan is.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Patriots had to choose Brady or Jimmy G. I find it interesting that they're the 1st team to choose the 40 year old over the future, I really didn't think they'd do that, but it's Brady. Kraft, BB made a decision with their heart and to let Tom end his career in NE on his terms whenever that is.

Doesn't hurt that Brady is still chugging along at a high level.

rumor is BB might retire in a couple along with Brady as well. He isn't stupid. He knows Tom made his legacy as much as he made his.
[ Edited by Cisco0623 on Oct 31, 2017 at 9:07 PM ]
The more that i watch his highlights, commentators like to point out his quick release. He does certainly have a quick release, almost aaron rodgers like.
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I honestly wouldn't even play him this season. Raise him right Kyle.

That's what I'm saying. Let Beathard take the beating for the rest of the year lol

You two would make a TERRIBLE coach and or GM.

I don't know how they could misread Kyle's aggressive mindset. They may want to be passive, but that's not who Kyle Shanahan is.

It has nothing to do with Shanahan. No competent coach would sit the QB for the rest of the season.
Originally posted by Polkadots:
This trade basically establishes JG will be the QB for their entire tenure. A negative-best case scenario is he immediately flames out and they move on from him after next year. The odds, then, of securing a FQB and doing something expected of this team by the end of six years (i.e. being a perennial Super Bowl contender) are significantly lower at that point.

Further, no one said he would absolutely be cheaper in the off season. But, having no sample size this year versus him lighting it up (assume, for the sake of the argument, these are the only two options) means he will have a heftier price tag. Just like in KC's situation. Had KC been terrible this year he would get paid less than he would versus playing well.

I only have two issues with this trade:

A) JG is going to get paid. Regardless. Had they waited until he entered free agency the 49ers would have had to pay him X. Now, they are still going to pay him X + their 2nd round pick. It seems disingenuous of people to, on one hand, cite potential costs here, while at the same time, in other threads, note the 49ers' absurd amount of cap space and thus their desire to overpay if necessary to secure position x, y, z.

* As an aside, if a deal was worked out prior to this trade I (as JG) would fire my agent immediately, because it leaves, potentially, a lot of money on the table.

B) I have not seen enough of him to make me think he is a FQB. Show me success in obscure places with average talent, not in a place where you are surrounded by one of the best HCs in NFL history, and, even with their injuries at the time, a fairly good surrounding cast.

NC said JG is the best option, along with KC, in 2018. I don't dispute that. I am fully willing to disregard B above as simply the risk associated with the pursuit of finding a FQB.

My gripe then, specifically, concerns cost. And, not the overall cost, but the opportunity cost of giving up a second round pick for someone you could have had (at least the opportunity for) in FA for cash alone. Be honest, JG is not turning this team into a Super Bowl contender, and that is, after all, the entire point / ultimate goal.


Once again, there is zero guarantee that the Patriots wouldn't have traded Garoppolo to some other team. Zero guarantee that he'd ever be available for the 49ers to sign, much the same as Cousins. You hope that he'd be available, but that would be far from a given and if you like a quarterback enough, then you make that trade 100 out of 100 times to bring that guy into your building, have him start learning the offense, developing relationships with the coaching staff, the front office, the players on the team, becoming familiar with the organization and getting comfortable with everything while you're able to evaluate him in your scheme, playing with your players and getting a much better idea of what he can ultimately do in your offense.

Looking at this team's track record with 2nd rounders over the past 10 years, I'd make that deal every day of the week, especially considering the 49ers still have a 2nd round pick and are now potentially in position to trade back with a QB hungry team, recoup that 2nd rounder and get a whole lot more back since using that early pick on a QB is no longer a concern.


The 49ers are still many players away from that. At least two draft / FA cycles, assuming a fairly high percentage of successful decisions.


And no piece is bigger nor more crucial than the quarterback. You plug in Garoppolo, upgrade the OL this offseason, add another weapon or two and if he is what you hope he can be then you are suddenly a much more competitive team than you have been this season.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I honestly wouldn't even play him this season. Raise him right Kyle.

Yeah, I'm with you. Let him learn the playbook without rushing him to get on the field. Beathard can hold the fort until Jimmy's ready to go.

Wait, what? Exactly what would your plan be in the offseason when his contract is up? $23 million on the tag? Or just because? Am I the only person who remembers how that worked out with Matt Flynn? Let him prove his worth. Unless you want a QB that can only function under perfect circumstances, that is...

I wish he was ready today and have him start on Sunday, but that's not reality. He needs to learn at least enough to function on the field. That could take the rest of the season to accomplish.
what, lol

he's not retarded
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