Originally posted by NC49er:
I doubt KS & JL's jobs depend on a QB acquisition in their first year of a 6 year deal. And to succently address the rest of your concerns you mentioned... None of us on this forum know all the circumstances surrounding the decision. How do you know JG would have been cheaper in the off season? You do not know that. The 2 in charge have been around and involved in the NFL their entire adult lives, I think they have more facts than anyone on this board,trust them. If you would rather have Baalke back and Tomsula, Singletary, Kelley back they would take you up on it most likely.
This trade basically establishes JG will be the QB for their entire tenure. A negative-best case scenario is he immediately flames out and they move on from him after next year. The odds, then, of securing a FQB and doing something expected of this team by the end of six years (i.e. being a perennial Super Bowl contender) are significantly lower at that point.
Further, no one said
he would absolutely be cheaper in the off season. But, having no sample size this year versus him lighting it up (assume, for the sake of the argument, these are the only two options) means he will have a heftier price tag. Just like in KC's situation. Had KC been terrible this year he would get paid less than he would versus playing well.
I only have two issues with this trade:
A) JG is going to get paid. Regardless. Had they waited until he entered free agency the 49ers would have had to pay him X. Now, they are still going to pay him X + their 2nd round pick. It seems disingenuous of people to, on one hand, cite potential costs here, while at the same time, in other threads, note the 49ers' absurd amount of cap space and thus their desire to overpay if necessary to secure position x, y, z.
* As an aside, if a deal was worked out prior to this trade I (as JG) would fire my agent immediately, because it leaves, potentially, a lot of money on the table.
B) I have not seen enough of him to make me think he is a FQB. Show me success in obscure places with average talent, not in a place where you are surrounded by one of the best HCs in NFL history, and, even with their injuries at the time, a fairly good surrounding cast.
NC said JG is the best option, along with KC, in 2018. I don't dispute that. I am fully willing to disregard B above as simply the risk associated with the pursuit of finding a FQB.
My gripe then, specifically, concerns cost. And, not the overall cost, but the opportunity cost of giving up a second round pick for someone you could have had (at least the opportunity for) in FA for cash alone. Be honest, JG is not turning this team into a Super Bowl contender, and that is, after all, the entire point / ultimate goal. The 49ers are still many players away from that. At least two draft / FA cycles, assuming a fairly high percentage of successful decisions.
[ Edited by Polkadots on Oct 31, 2017 at 9:03 PM ]