Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Why would Jalen Ramsey be super impressed with Garoppolo? He only threw for 240ish yards in that game. He played well, but the Jags lost that game due to their defense being asleep for the first quarter and Blake Bortles throwing 3 dumb picks.

I know right? His defense only gave up 44 points to Jimmy G.

44 points, including Donate Johnson returning an INT 50 yards for a TD (gee, I wonder why Ramsey wasn't impressed by Garoppolo on that play?).

We also had two very short TD drives, featuring possessions that started at:
- the Jacksonville 26-yard line (5-play, 26-yard TD drive), and,
- the 18-yard line (3-play, 18-yard TD drive)

Context matters. Garoppolo played well, but let's not go crazy here.

Says context matters...tries to break things down to take away from what Jimmy was able to do.

Fans like you are absolutely insufferable. VaBeach, too.

Do you know it's possible to simultaneously believe Garoppolo is a FQB and the QB Of The Future, while also conceding that maybe the Jacksonville game was only a good -- but not amazing -- game on his part? I honestly think believe you think the answer to that question is "no", because the amount of insecurity dripping from your post is embarrassing.

God, posts like this make me barely even able to stomach this board. Homer fans are the worst.

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Why would Jalen Ramsey be super impressed with Garoppolo? He only threw for 240ish yards in that game. He played well, but the Jags lost that game due to their defense being asleep for the first quarter and Blake Bortles throwing 3 dumb picks.

I know right? His defense only gave up 44 points to Jimmy G.

44 points, including Donate Johnson returning an INT 50 yards for a TD (gee, I wonder why Ramsey wasn't impressed by Garoppolo on that play?).

We also had two very short TD drives, featuring possessions that started at:
- the Jacksonville 26-yard line (5-play, 26-yard TD drive), and,
- the 18-yard line (3-play, 18-yard TD drive)

Context matters. Garoppolo played well, but let's not go crazy here.

Says context matters...tries to break things down to take away from what Jimmy was able to do.

Fans like you are absolutely insufferable. VaBeach, too.

Do you know it's possible to simultaneously believe Garoppolo is a FQB and the QB Of The Future, while also conceding that maybe the Jacksonville game was only a good -- but not amazing -- game on his part? I honestly think believe you think the answer to that question is "no", because the amount of insecurity dripping from your post is embarrassing.

God, posts like this make me barely even able to stomach this board. Homer fans are the worst.

Why not cry about it?

I'm not even a homer but if you want to talk about context then there's no way you can look at that Jags game and claim Garoppolo didn't play great football.

There's not being a homer then there's breaking things down to take away from what happened and you did just that.

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

If Bortles doesn't throw 3 picks, we probably lose that game. Also, if the Titans are able to gain 1 yard on 3rd down late in the game, we probably lose that game too. The 5-0 record is touted a lot, but a lot of those wins were decided by things outside of his control.

If any one person deserves credit for the 5-0 record, it's Shanahan. He is the one that kept the team together and it's his scheme that allowed JG to be successful. If JG had been traded to the Browns, he'd be out of the league in a few years.

I'm happy we have Shanahan as our HC. I'm happy we have Beathard, his hand-picked QB and the one he traded up to get, in the wings in case Jimmy falters.

I like CJ, but his best quality as an NFL QB is being able to take a beating behind a poor offensive line.

You want to credit Kyle and hope CJ can turn into something someday, but you also must acknowledge that Jimmy made everybody around him better. The O-line, the recievers, and even the play calling. It's fine to not already anoint Jimmy as the next great QB of the NFL, but let's not pretend that the 5-0 run to end the season had nothing to do with him. He's basically the only reason it happened.

Originally posted by genus49:

Why not cry about it?

I'm not even a homer but if you want to talk about context then there's no way you can look at that Jags game and claim Garoppolo didn't play great football.

There's not being a homer then there's breaking things down to take away from what happened and you did just that.

It was a good game plan by Shanahan. Garoppolo did an adequate job of executing it and the defense came through with some turnovers. All in all, a great team effort, but I don't think any one player deserves a ton of credit.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

I like CJ, but his best quality as an NFL QB is being able to take a beating behind a poor offensive line.

You want to credit Kyle and hope CJ can turn into something someday, but you also must acknowledge that Jimmy made everybody around him better. The O-line, the recievers, and even the play calling. It's fine to not already anoint Jimmy as the next great QB of the NFL, but let's not pretend that the 5-0 run to end the season had nothing to do with him. He's basically the only reason it happened.

Of course it had a lot to do with JG, since he was the QB, but I don't think it's fair to say it's only because of him. Weaker competition and the defense playing better also helped. Perhaps most importantly the 50/50 plays that went against us and caused us to lose a lot of close games earlier in the season started going our way.

It's easy to say that JG took a 1-10 team and made them 5-0, but it's ignoring the fact that the 1-10 team easily could have been around 5-6 or 6-5 at that point if it had gotten a few breaks.

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

If Bortles doesn't throw 3 picks, we probably lose that game. Also, if the Titans are able to gain 1 yard on 3rd down late in the game, we probably lose that game too. The 5-0 record is touted a lot, but a lot of those wins were decided by things outside of his control.

If any one person deserves credit for the 5-0 record, it's Shanahan. He is the one that kept the team together and it's his scheme that allowed JG to be successful. If JG had been traded to the Browns, he'd be out of the league in a few years.

I'm happy we have Shanahan as our HC. I'm happy we have Beathard, his hand-picked QB and the one he traded up to get, in the wings in case Jimmy falters.

LOL

Jalen Ramsey need to focus more on his team than to worry about jimmy

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by susweel:
You can't really go off the college film because the ball is smaller in college.

Lol stop it

An NFL football will measure 11" long with a 22" circumference at the midway point. Unless it is being used by the Patriots (joke Pats fans, joke), the air pressure should be between 12-1/2 psi and 13-1/2 psi. A college ball (D1) will be just slightly smaller (1/2" in length and 1" circumference).

It's one of the dumbest rebuttals I've heard yet lol

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

I like CJ, but his best quality as an NFL QB is being able to take a beating behind a poor offensive line.

You want to credit Kyle and hope CJ can turn into something someday, but you also must acknowledge that Jimmy made everybody around him better. The O-line, the recievers, and even the play calling. It's fine to not already anoint Jimmy as the next great QB of the NFL, but let's not pretend that the 5-0 run to end the season had nothing to do with him. He's basically the only reason it happened.

Of course it had a lot to do with JG, since he was the QB, but I don't think it's fair to say it's only because of him. Weaker competition and the defense playing better also helped. Perhaps most importantly the 50/50 plays that went against us and caused us to lose a lot of close games earlier in the season started going our way.

Hoyer
54% Completion%
4 TD/4 INT
74.1 Rating

CJ
58% Completion%
4 TD/6 INT
74.1 Rating

JG
67% completion%
7 TD/5 INT
96.2 Rating

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

I like CJ, but his best quality as an NFL QB is being able to take a beating behind a poor offensive line.

You want to credit Kyle and hope CJ can turn into something someday, but you also must acknowledge that Jimmy made everybody around him better. The O-line, the recievers, and even the play calling. It's fine to not already anoint Jimmy as the next great QB of the NFL, but let's not pretend that the 5-0 run to end the season had nothing to do with him. He's basically the only reason it happened.

Of course it had a lot to do with JG, since he was the QB, but I don't think it's fair to say it's only because of him. Weaker competition and the defense playing better also helped. Perhaps most importantly the 50/50 plays that went against us and caused us to lose a lot of close games earlier in the season started going our way.

So you're one of those that thinks the defense playing better had nothing to do with JG converting 3rd downs at a ridiculously higher rate than we did the rest of the season? Weaker completion, you say? Chicago and Jacksonville were both top 10 defenses and he absolutely diced them up.

I get your less than positive stance on JG. I don't agree with it, but I get it. But your unwillingness to give credit where credit is so is just silly.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by susweel:
You can't really go off the college film because the ball is smaller in college.

Lol stop it

An NFL football will measure 11" long with a 22" circumference at the midway point. Unless it is being used by the Patriots (joke Pats fans, joke), the air pressure should be between 12-1/2 psi and 13-1/2 psi. A college ball (D1) will be just slightly smaller (1/2" in length and 1" circumference).

It's one of the dumbest rebuttals I've heard yet lol

lol
naw, try to keep up with Jack49ers84 posts... They will entertain you for hours

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I like CJ, but his best quality as an NFL QB is being able to take a beating behind a poor offensive line.

You want to credit Kyle and hope CJ can turn into something someday, but you also must acknowledge that Jimmy made everybody around him better. The O-line, the recievers, and even the play calling. It's fine to not already anoint Jimmy as the next great QB of the NFL, but let's not pretend that the 5-0 run to end the season had nothing to do with him. He's basically the only reason it happened.

Of course it had a lot to do with JG, since he was the QB, but I don't think it's fair to say it's only because of him. Weaker competition and the defense playing better also helped. Perhaps most importantly the 50/50 plays that went against us and caused us to lose a lot of close games earlier in the season started going our way.

Hoyer
54% Completion%
4 TD/4 INT
74.1 Rating

CJ
58% Completion%
4 TD/6 INT
74.1 Rating

JG
67% completion%
7 TD/5 INT
96.2 Rating

Those stats don't matter per Jack49ers84 because jimmy g had the weaker opponents

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

I like CJ, but his best quality as an NFL QB is being able to take a beating behind a poor offensive line.

You want to credit Kyle and hope CJ can turn into something someday, but you also must acknowledge that Jimmy made everybody around him better. The O-line, the recievers, and even the play calling. It's fine to not already anoint Jimmy as the next great QB of the NFL, but let's not pretend that the 5-0 run to end the season had nothing to do with him. He's basically the only reason it happened.

Of course it had a lot to do with JG, since he was the QB, but I don't think it's fair to say it's only because of him. Weaker competition and the defense playing better also helped. Perhaps most importantly the 50/50 plays that went against us and caused us to lose a lot of close games earlier in the season started going our way.

Hoyer
54% Completion%
4 TD/4 INT
74.1 Rating

CJ
58% Completion%
4 TD/6 INT
74.1 Rating

JG
67% completion%
7 TD/5 INT
96.2 Rating

What's your point? That the only difference between a 4 year experienced vet and supposedly already the greatest 49ers QB since Montana, a rookie, and a journeyman career backup is a slight difference of about +/- 1 in the ratio of TDs to INTs?

Originally posted by susweel:

You can't really go off the college film because the ball is smaller in college.

Well s**t, scouts might as well quit their jobs then because you can't make any proper evaluations due to QBs throwing a half inch smaller football.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

I like CJ, but his best quality as an NFL QB is being able to take a beating behind a poor offensive line.

You want to credit Kyle and hope CJ can turn into something someday, but you also must acknowledge that Jimmy made everybody around him better. The O-line, the recievers, and even the play calling. It's fine to not already anoint Jimmy as the next great QB of the NFL, but let's not pretend that the 5-0 run to end the season had nothing to do with him. He's basically the only reason it happened.

Of course it had a lot to do with JG, since he was the QB, but I don't think it's fair to say it's only because of him. Weaker competition and the defense playing better also helped. Perhaps most importantly the 50/50 plays that went against us and caused us to lose a lot of close games earlier in the season started going our way.

So you're one of those that thinks the defense playing better had nothing to do with JG converting 3rd downs at a ridiculously higher rate than we did the rest of the season? Weaker completion, you say? Chicago and Jacksonville were both top 10 defenses and he absolutely dived them up.

I get your less than positive stance on JG. I don't agree with it, but I get it. But your unwillingness to give credit where credit is so is just silly.

It's not about an unwillingness to give credit where credit is due. I just want to partition credit appropriately rather than give it all to 1 player. I've said numerous times that I think JG is a good QB and is most likely going to be our starter for a long time. He's also overrated here tremendously after just 5 games.