Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

A higher completion percentage doesn't mean a lot on its own. It could just mean that the QB doesn't take chances or attempt very many deep passes. Most of JG's completions were short yardage throws, so that makes sense.

A higher completion percentage AND a higher YPA mean a lot.


CJ Beathard is elite at one thing and one thing only, taking a beating. Great trait for a backup QB to have which is good since that is likely all he will ever be.

Do you think that is the reason that Shanahan traded up to get him? I think you're selling CJ awfully short. Shanahan wouldn't have hand picked him in the 3rd round just to be a tackling dummy.

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
A higher completion percentage doesn't mean a lot on its own. It could just mean that the QB doesn't take chances or attempt very many deep passes. Most of JG's completions were short yardage throws, so that makes sense.

He might not have done it all on his own BUT he improved that offense without question...it was night and day. SF's defense also improve because of his QB play. Teams couldn't run on them all day (because SF put points on the board) by the end of the yr SF's D was 6th best in the NFL in avg yard per carry at 3.8.... prior to the QB change they were one of the worst.

As far as your comment "Most of JG's completions were short yardage throws, so that makes sense." WRONG he avg 8.4 YPA which was TOPS in the NFL during that time.....but yes keep trying to make stuff up

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

A higher completion percentage doesn't mean a lot on its own. It could just mean that the QB doesn't take chances or attempt very many deep passes. Most of JG's completions were short yardage throws, so that makes sense.

A higher completion percentage AND a higher YPA mean a lot.


CJ Beathard is elite at one thing and one thing only, taking a beating. Great trait for a backup QB to have which is good since that is likely all he will ever be.

Do you think that is the reason that Shanahan traded up to get him? I think you're selling CJ awfully short. Shanahan wouldn't have hand picked him in the 3rd round just to be a tackling dummy.

Using your logic, why would Kyle trade a 2nd round pick for Jimmy if he just traded up to take CJ in the third?

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Do you think that is the reason that Shanahan traded up to get him? I think you're selling CJ awfully short. Shanahan wouldn't have hand picked him in the 3rd round just to be a tackling dummy.

Take your Hawkeye glasses off for one second and see the light lol. You think they gave up a high 2nd rd pick for JG because they thought Beathard was the future? You think they gave JG an massive payday because they thought CJ was the FQB?

CJ is who he is, a tough southern boy that played in a pro-style offense in college. Kyle liked some of his qualities ( like being able to call protections at the line and take a snap under center) dude wasn't great in college and some of those same deficiencies showed up in the NFL (lack of pocket presence/below avg accuracy). I think he's got a chance to be a solid spot starter and play in the league for a while (like Hoyer). If he proves everyone wrong sweet, if not well it's not a huge shock.

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Do you think that is the reason that Shanahan traded up to get him? I think you're selling CJ awfully short. Shanahan wouldn't have hand picked him in the 3rd round just to be a tackling dummy.

He took a flyer on a guy in the mid rounds of the draft, calm down. Teams do it all the time on QBs that go nowhere. If they hadn't acquired Garoppolo then Cousins would be the QB and Beathard would still be a backup. Shanahan was never going to lay the foundation of his first head coaching stint on the shoulders of Beathard.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

A higher completion percentage doesn't mean a lot on its own. It could just mean that the QB doesn't take chances or attempt very many deep passes. Most of JG's completions were short yardage throws, so that makes sense.

A higher completion percentage AND a higher YPA mean a lot.


CJ Beathard is elite at one thing and one thing only, taking a beating. Great trait for a backup QB to have which is good since that is likely all he will ever be.

Do you think that is the reason that Shanahan traded up to get him? I think you're selling CJ awfully short. Shanahan wouldn't have hand picked him in the 3rd round just to be a tackling dummy.

Using your logic, why would Kyle trade a 2nd round pick for Jimmy if he just traded up to take CJ in the third?

Because JG is a good QB? Why wouldn't Shanahan trade for him? He can like both QBs and have confidence in both to run his offense.

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

A higher completion percentage doesn't mean a lot on its own. It could just mean that the QB doesn't take chances or attempt very many deep passes. Most of JG's completions were short yardage throws, so that makes sense.

A higher completion percentage AND a higher YPA mean a lot.


CJ Beathard is elite at one thing and one thing only, taking a beating. Great trait for a backup QB to have which is good since that is likely all he will ever be.

Do you think that is the reason that Shanahan traded up to get him? I think you're selling CJ awfully short. Shanahan wouldn't have hand picked him in the 3rd round just to be a tackling dummy.

Using your logic, why would Kyle trade a 2nd round pick for Jimmy if he just traded up to take CJ in the third?

Because JG is a good QB? Why wouldn't Shanahan trade for him? He can like both QBs and have confidence in both to run his offense.

You don't trade a 2nd round pick for a guy if you have faith in the guy you just traded up to get in the 3rd less than a year before. Maybe in another position, but not QB. There's only 1 spot.

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by susweel:

You can't really go off the college film because the ball is smaller in college.

Well s**t, scouts might as well quit their jobs then because you can't make any proper evaluations due to QBs throwing a half inch smaller football.

Scouts do the best they can with the information they have, but I bet the smaller ball is a big reason why a lot of successful college QBs flame out in the NFL. Some QBs struggle to adapt to the heavier weight.

It's true when i play ball with my kids we use the youth sized ball i can chuck that thing a good 60-70 yards easily. With the NFL sized football i can't do that.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

A higher completion percentage doesn't mean a lot on its own. It could just mean that the QB doesn't take chances or attempt very many deep passes. Most of JG's completions were short yardage throws, so that makes sense.

A higher completion percentage AND a higher YPA mean a lot.


CJ Beathard is elite at one thing and one thing only, taking a beating. Great trait for a backup QB to have which is good since that is likely all he will ever be.

Do you think that is the reason that Shanahan traded up to get him? I think you're selling CJ awfully short. Shanahan wouldn't have hand picked him in the 3rd round just to be a tackling dummy.

Using your logic, why would Kyle trade a 2nd round pick for Jimmy if he just traded up to take CJ in the third?

Because JG is a good QB? Why wouldn't Shanahan trade for him? He can like both QBs and have confidence in both to run his offense.

You don't trade a 2nd round pick for a guy if you have faith in the guy you just traded up to get in the 3rd less than a year before. Maybe in another position, but not QB. There's only 1 spot.

If he didn't have faith in him, he wouldn't be the only other QB on the roster that's likely to make it to the 53 man. If Shanahan didn't have faith in him, he might have drafted another developmental QB this year or brought in an experienced vet. Shanahan clearly feels good about Beathard and JG as his QBs. You guys talk about Beathard like he's just a glorified tackling dummy or a stunt double for Jimmy, but you'll be eating those words when Beathard 2.0, now an experienced veteran QB, shows up this year and lights up the preseason. Let's hope JG is up to the competition.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

A higher completion percentage doesn't mean a lot on its own. It could just mean that the QB doesn't take chances or attempt very many deep passes. Most of JG's completions were short yardage throws, so that makes sense.

He might not have done it all on his own BUT he improved that offense without question...it was night and day. SF's defense also improve because of his QB play. Teams couldn't run on them all day (because SF put points on the board) by the end of the yr SF's D was 6th best in the NFL in avg yard per carry at 3.8.... prior to the QB change they were one of the worst.

As far as your comment "Most of JG's completions were short yardage throws, so that makes sense." WRONG he avg 8.4 YPA which was TOPS in the NFL during that time.....but yes keep trying to make stuff up

Explain please? The numbers disagree with what you're throwing down

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

You don't trade a 2nd round pick for a guy if you have faith in the guy you just traded up to get in the 3rd less than a year before. Maybe in another position, but not QB. There's only 1 spot.

Beathard was never going to be the guy. If not Garoppolo and if for some reason they couldn't bring in Cousins then it would be Josh Rosen as the QBOTF.

If CJ turns out to be a quality backup, he'll have been worth the pick.

Originally posted by susweel:

It's true when i play ball with my kids we use the youth sized ball i can chuck that thing a good 60-70 yards easily. With the NFL sized football i can't do that.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by susweel:

It's true when i play ball with my kids we use the youth sized ball i can chuck that thing a good 60-70 yards easily. With the NFL sized football i can't do that.

Clearly he's being a smartass lol

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

A higher completion percentage doesn't mean a lot on its own. It could just mean that the QB doesn't take chances or attempt very many deep passes. Most of JG's completions were short yardage throws, so that makes sense.

A higher completion percentage AND a higher YPA mean a lot.


CJ Beathard is elite at one thing and one thing only, taking a beating. Great trait for a backup QB to have which is good since that is likely all he will ever be.

Do you think that is the reason that Shanahan traded up to get him? I think you're selling CJ awfully short. Shanahan wouldn't have hand picked him in the 3rd round just to be a tackling dummy.

Using your logic, why would Kyle trade a 2nd round pick for Jimmy if he just traded up to take CJ in the third?

Because JG is a good QB? Why wouldn't Shanahan trade for him? He can like both QBs and have confidence in both to run his offense.

You don't trade a 2nd round pick for a guy if you have faith in the guy you just traded up to get in the 3rd less than a year before. Maybe in another position, but not QB. There's only 1 spot.

If he didn't have faith in him, he wouldn't be the only other QB on the roster that's likely to make it to the 53 man. If Shanahan didn't have faith in him, he might have drafted another developmental QB this year or brought in an experienced vet. Shanahan clearly feels good about Beathard and JG as his QBs. You guys talk about Beathard like he's just a glorified tackling dummy or a stunt double for Jimmy, but you'll be eating those words when Beathard 2.0, now an experienced veteran QB, shows up this year and lights up the preseason. Let's hope JG is up to the competition.

I'm judging CJ by his results. He played like a glorified tackling dummy. And you're delusional if you think CJ has a chance at winning the starting QB spot over Jimmy. Barring injury, there is zero chance at this happening. No matter what happens in training camps or pre season.

And you sir will be eating your words if Jimmy G lights it up and CJ lives the life of a career backup.

lol you guys still feeding him