Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

A higher completion percentage doesn't mean a lot on its own. It could just mean that the QB doesn't take chances or attempt very many deep passes. Most of JG's completions were short yardage throws, so that makes sense.

A higher completion percentage AND a higher YPA mean a lot.


CJ Beathard is elite at one thing and one thing only, taking a beating. Great trait for a backup QB to have which is good since that is likely all he will ever be.

Do you think that is the reason that Shanahan traded up to get him? I think you're selling CJ awfully short. Shanahan wouldn't have hand picked him in the 3rd round just to be a tackling dummy.

Are you slamming JG to try to prop up CJ?
I don't see why we are talking CJ in the JG thread.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Beathard looked like every other QB this team had after Garcia minus post 2010 Alex and 2012 to 2013 Kaepernick. Just a guy. Might develop into something worthwhile but I wouldn't bet my house on it.

Exactly....it hasn't looked like it did under Jimmy since 1998.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Staley only missed one game

And jimmy had T brown for half a game. Throw in no Garcon and no off season to learn Kyle Shanahan's offense. CJ was awarded that.

Learning behind Brady is all fine and dandy, but he didn't get the reps (Brady did) and McDaniels scheme/verbiage isn't even close to the same as Kyle's.

Facts are what CJ was poor at in college was exactly the same in the pros...I'm not gonna say he can't improve he's a rookie. BUT the overall QB play between the two isn't even remotely close and stats back it up.

Everytime you insult CJ, you're insulting Shanahan's judgement. Remember that. Shanahan knows more about offense than everyone on this forum combined and with plenty to spare, so I'll trust him. If he trusts CJ to be the primary backup on a team with playoff (if not Super Bowl) hopes, then you all should too.

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Everytime you insult CJ, you're insulting Shanahan's judgement. Remember that. Shanahan knows more about offense than everyone on this forum combined and with plenty to spare, so I'll trust him. If he trusts CJ to be the primary backup on a team with playoff (if not Super Bowl) hopes, then you all should too.

What the hell does this even mean? I'm probably the biggest Kyle honk on this forum (I've wanted him in some form or fashion since 2014). No one here doubts Kyle. He knows QBs and that's why he gave Jimmy a top grade in 2014 and if there would have been a QB with Jimmy's traits in the '17 draft we would have taken him at 2 if he was available.

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Staley only missed one game

And jimmy had T brown for half a game. Throw in no Garcon and no off season to learn Kyle Shanahan's offense. CJ was awarded that.

Learning behind Brady is all fine and dandy, but he didn't get the reps (Brady did) and McDaniels scheme/verbiage isn't even close to the same as Kyle's.

Facts are what CJ was poor at in college was exactly the same in the pros...I'm not gonna say he can't improve he's a rookie. BUT the overall QB play between the two isn't even remotely close and stats back it up.

Everytime you insult CJ, you're insulting Shanahan's judgement. Remember that. Shanahan knows more about offense than everyone on this forum combined and with plenty to spare, so I'll trust him. If he trusts CJ to be the primary backup on a team with playoff (if not Super Bowl) hopes, then you all should too.

Want to talk about the backup? There is a thread for that...
https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/188724-49ers-select-beathard-round-pick-104/

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
should add 3rd down conversions which is the money maker stat

Jimmy G 35/70 which is 50%. CJ 28/73 which is 38%. 50% is Steve and Joe territory.

No, it's not Steve and Joe territory, because Steve and Joe did it for more than 5 games.

You see this is why you negative nancies are so funny.

If Jimmy G looked awful in those five games, I 110% guarantee you people would be done with him already. You for sure wouldn't be saying "it was only five games" if that was the case.

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Everytime you insult CJ, you're insulting Shanahan's judgement. Remember that. Shanahan knows more about offense than everyone on this forum combined and with plenty to spare, so I'll trust him. If he trusts CJ to be the primary backup on a team with playoff (if not Super Bowl) hopes, then you all should too.

Who is insulting CJ? He's a solid backup tier QB. Can take a beating and run a pro offense. Could do worse with a backup passer.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Everytime you insult CJ, you're insulting Shanahan's judgement. Remember that. Shanahan knows more about offense than everyone on this forum combined and with plenty to spare, so I'll trust him. If he trusts CJ to be the primary backup on a team with playoff (if not Super Bowl) hopes, then you all should too.

Who is insulting CJ? He's a solid backup tier QB. Can take a beating and run a pro offense. Could do worse with a backup passer.

with Jack's logic, wouldn't he be insulting Shanny the most ? lol

what week do we start hearing the "WE WANT CJ" chants from the faithfuls

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

what week do we start hearing the "WE WANT CJ" chants from the faithfuls

Week 2 when we're up 35 on the Lions and we don't want Jimmy G to get hurt

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

with Jack's logic, wouldn't he be insulting Shanny the most ? lol

How so? I've said JG is a good QB and should be the starter. I support whatever Shanahan decides. I feel confident that there will be no drop off in performance regardless of which QB ends up starting.

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Everytime you insult CJ, you're insulting Shanahan's judgement. Remember that. Shanahan knows more about offense than everyone on this forum combined and with plenty to spare, so I'll trust him. If he trusts CJ to be the primary backup on a team with playoff (if not Super Bowl) hopes, then you all should too.

Haha no I'm not...you think every player they draft is drafted to be the future at the position? Wrong...they spent a mid rd pick on a QB, the only qb they had on the roster at the time was Hoyer no s**t they needed another QB to groom as a quality backup... maybe he turns into something more, but they sure as s**t didn't spend a top end pick on a QB.

Again why would they spend a high end 2nd on JG if the game plan was to make CJ the FQB?

I told you some of the qualities Kyle liked in CJ (which he stated) and some of the issues he had in college that carried over to his rookie yr. I think we're in a great spot at QB which is a positive about CJ.

You've been in here trying to down play JG and then in the same breathe trying to pump up beathard...I've showed you stats on how much the team improved with JG at the helm.

Just be happy we're finally good at QB instead of wearing hose Hawkeye glasses

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
with Jack's logic, wouldn't he be insulting Shanny the most ? lol

How so? I've said JG is a good QB and should be the starter. I support whatever Shanahan decides. I feel confident that there will be no drop off in performance regardless of which QB ends up starting.

lol this whole smear/bashing campaign of jimmy G is how

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

with Jack's logic, wouldn't he be insulting Shanny the most ? lol

How so? I've said JG is a good QB and should be the starter. I support whatever Shanahan decides. I feel confident that there will be no drop off in performance regardless of which QB ends up starting.

You said he would be out of the league if he had gone to the Browns.
You said that his stats were essentially the same as CJ's.
You went out of your way to minimize his part ion the 5 game win streak.

Is scheme then new finesse?

Jalen Ramsey thinks it was scheme that beat them, not Jimmy

The only difference between all of our losses, and the final five games was Jimmy

If anything there was less scheme in the final five, because Jimmy didn't even know the play book!