Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Wonder if Kyle said the same thing to CJ as he did to Cousins.

Gonna develop you, then trade you to another team.

If Kyle is being honest to CJ, why not.

If Kyle is being honest with CJ, then he should tell him to not to worry about that s**t, and to only focus on improving himself and making sure that he is ready for whenever his next opportunity comes. That time could be years from now or it could be this season.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by eamjr10:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

2nd best selling jersey right now

https://www.instagram.com/p/BknTCv8DEpg/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=3mvbu1b2dsbg

I got mine.

I want him to succeed so I'm not getting it until he's in the HOF after winning us several SBs.

For reference my last 2 jersesys

Manny Lawson - didn't feel like getting a Willis one cuz EVERYONE was getting one
Colin Kaepernick - got his during his rookie season

I'm not about to curse any other player

You could go pick up some rams jerseys.

I'll be drafting them early in FF. Lost 5 of my top 6 picks last year to injury/suspension.

Sounds like a plan!

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
A friend played with Scott Barry, who was drafted by the Niners in 85. He was 6th round pick. It was clear he wasn't going to make the team, and he was cut after the first preseason game. The last preseason game was coming up, the Chargers want a better look at the guy, so the Niners resigned him, let him play a quarter. The Chargers passed, and he ended up in the CFL. Didn't have enough to make it there either.

My point is, coaches always want players to succeed, even if they are not part of their plans. So, I would fully expect Kyle to coach his ass off trying to improve CJ's game. If not just to have a better back up, but to help the kid develop. Sure if he plays well, but can't take the job from Jimmy, he will be more valuable in a trade if he is developed, so its a natural win, win.

I think good coaches, and good teams are more honest and up front with players, its a business after all.

Agree. I think good coaches are good because one of their defining traits is that they are honest about their intentions and very good at communicating those to the players. It's clear that CJ doesn't have the elite reading skills yet that Jimmy has, so Kyle has to be honest about it. Now whether CJ has a shot at supplanting Jimmy as a starter - Kyle has to be honest to him about that too. Personally, unless CJ all of a sudden throws for 400 yards in a half in pre-season, I don't think he can. I think Jimmy is that good.

Originally posted by genus49:
Colin also didn't show that he could be thrown into a very complicated offense, face good defenses and make chicken salad out of chicken chit.

Jim Plunkett was a late developer. There are QB's that just take a while to develop. Steve Young also took some time to develop. I'm not going to re-argue the past, but again in the right offense Colin was a top QB. If you have speed on offense - the QB reads become very simple and it's just a matter of having the physical talent to get the ball to the reciever at that point.

Having said that, I don't particularly care for Colin's attidude about himself (his tatoo - my talent is my curse) and his politics. Take any QB and keep changing his OC and the schemes he plays and he'll not be a very good QB for very long. That's why I think it was a very important step to have Kyle be the OC *AND* the HC to just make sure there is consistency at that coaching position. Jimmy will benefit greatly from that and will astound the NFL this year because Kyle's build a very fast offense around him that makes his reads very simple (and he already is an elite speed reader of defenses prior to being with Kyle).

Just to freshen up the discussion, I'd like to bring up the fact that San Francisco and Jimmy G are no longer the darlings of the league. Don't know what it is, but any kind of positive buzz coming from Santa Clara, is almost immediately shut down by others through out the national media. I for one, welcome it...

To be honest I was worried this young team might get complacent and let the hype go to their heads, but now, thanks to players like Jalen Ramsey and local beat writers like Grant Cohn, more and more NFL enthusiasts are joining the "Garoppolo and 49ers are way over-hyped" band wagon.

I should be angry, but I'm not, I'm loving it. I hope Shanahan and Lynch see this as an opertunity and use this black board material as inspiration.

Here's to the haters... Keep on hating, so we can keep on winning!

Terrible footwork

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Terrible footwork

look at that toughness by Jimmy also

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Terrible footwork

look at that toughness by Jimmy also

lol Trent Brown's pass protection. Not sure the RB did any better either. Squared up for the rusher but then decided to duck for his legs. Wonder if that was Hyde...

Originally posted by vermonator:

Just to freshen up the discussion, I'd like to bring up the fact that San Francisco and Jimmy G are no longer the darlings of the league. Don't know what it is, but any kind of positive buzz coming from Santa Clara, is almost immediately shut down by others through out the national media. I for one, welcome it...

To be honest I was worried this young team might get complacent and let the hype go to their heads, but now, thanks to players like Jalen Ramsey and local beat writers like Grant Cohn, more and more NFL enthusiasts are joining the "Garoppolo and 49ers are way over-hyped" band wagon.

I should be angry, but I'm not, I'm loving it. I hope Shanahan and Lynch see this as an opertunity and use this black board material as inspiration.

Here's to the haters... Keep on hating, so we can keep on winning!

The national media on the main will only give props to Bay Area teams begrudgingly and only when they are forced to.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by genus49:
Colin also didn't show that he could be thrown into a very complicated offense, face good defenses and make chicken salad out of chicken chit.

Jim Plunkett was a late developer. There are QB's that just take a while to develop. Steve Young also took some time to develop. I'm not going to re-argue the past, but again in the right offense Colin was a top QB. If you have speed on offense - the QB reads become very simple and it's just a matter of having the physical talent to get the ball to the reciever at that point.

Having said that, I don't particularly care for Colin's attidude about himself (his tatoo - my talent is my curse) and his politics. Take any QB and keep changing his OC and the schemes he plays and he'll not be a very good QB for very long. That's why I think it was a very important step to have Kyle be the OC *AND* the HC to just make sure there is consistency at that coaching position. Jimmy will benefit greatly from that and will astound the NFL this year because Kyle's build a very fast offense around him that makes his reads very simple (and he already is an elite speed reader of defenses prior to being with Kyle).

I'm sorry but with all respect to Kap he never showed some of the things elite QBs need to do as passers with or without Harbaugh, with or without great teams around him. Jimmy has shown more in his 5 starts with mediocre/crap talent around him last year than Kap did in his whole career.

I thought Kap would keep getting better and better. What he did his first year starting was incredible but you could tell there was a ton of potential to improve, a little more touch on some passes here, better pocket presence here, less happy feet on a few plays there and taking some easier plays based on what the defense gives you...

He never really improved on those things and as the teams fell apart whether free agency, injuries or retirements the growth as a passer wasn't showing. The fact that Colin adopted Harbaugh's world is against me attitude didn't help because he felt he was good enough and didn't need to listen to all these other people who said he should work on the mental part of his game more and work on becoming a better pocket passer.

That's why I'm much more encouraged by the 5 games from Jimmy. He did stay in there under pressure to deliver accurate balls, he did take what the defense was giving him often even though he had moments where he would just go based on the playcall regardless, i'd expect more of the former once he actually knows the full offense. He showed glimpses of elite play. That certainly bodes well as the team improves(hopefully) around him and as he becomes much more comfortable in Kyle's offense.

I know i've had people tell me to pump my brakes on Jimmy because of what happened with Kap but IMO it's apples n oranges.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Terrible footwork

look at that toughness by Jimmy also

lol Trent Brown's pass protection. Not sure the RB did any better either. Squared up for the rusher but then decided to duck for his legs. Wonder if that was Hyde...

Trent Brown looked really slow comming off that fake fire out block and getting back into pass protection. I was watching some of McGlinchy's college you tube videos and Mike would have kept his balance (I hope) and not let that swim move by the DT get by him. Credit the DT also for not buying the play fake. (on second look - the DT swim moves Trent right before the handoff, yikes)

Originally posted by Giedi:

Trent Brown looked really slow comming off that fake fire out block and getting back into pass protection. I was watching some of McGlinchy's college you tube videos and Mike would have kept his balance (I hope) and not let that swim move by the DT get by him. Credit the DT also for not buying the play fake. (on second look - the DT swim moves Trent right before the handoff, yikes)

You must have the eyeballs of the Flash.

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Trent Brown looked really slow comming off that fake fire out block and getting back into pass protection. I was watching some of McGlinchy's college you tube videos and Mike would have kept his balance (I hope) and not let that swim move by the DT get by him. Credit the DT also for not buying the play fake. (on second look - the DT swim moves Trent right before the handoff, yikes)

You must have the eyeballs of the Flash.

Or 2 finger zoom on the iPhone

I always laugh when people talk about tape. Sure the league doesn't have much tape on Jimmy, but the dude took over midseason learning a new playbook. You say no tape, I say he doesn't know the playbook yet.

Of course defenses will learn his tendencies but the one thing we have that those teams do not is Kyle Shanahan. Not to mention Jimmy's unique skill set that is going to make him a great QB.

With that said, on Sundays all I'm going to do is kick back in my #10 jersey and crack open a cold beer and hang on for what could be a great 5-10 years of 49er football!

Defenses gonna get schemed. It's not number #10