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Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams
- bvc49
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So fun
- mojave45
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Originally posted by mojave45:
Just want to remind everyone that we were undefeated under JG on 2017 and that right now, as of today, we are again undefeated and tied for first in the League in 2018. Coincidence? I think not.
- DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by mojave45:Just want to remind everyone that we were undefeated under JG in 2017 and that right now, as of today, we are again undefeated and tied for first in the League in 2018. Coincidence? I think not.
we are also projected to go 19-0
i mean jimmy is undefeated and all
- genus49
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
This is my favorite play by Jimmy Garoppolo this year and it was an incompletion. Oline let Clowney come free on a delayed blitz but Jimmy stays in the pocket and takes a killer hit. That ball traveled 45yds in the air only to go through Carlos Hyde's hands@49ersHub @EatSleepFF pic.twitter.com/xY6ry7Bv6z
— John Chapman (@JL_Chapman) July 4, 2018
Yeah I'm showing it again
Great throw under pressure...Hyde drops the ball on this play
Does anyone have the gif of this play they can post? Need it for something
- gold49digger
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
This is my favorite play by Jimmy Garoppolo this year and it was an incompletion. Oline let Clowney come free on a delayed blitz but Jimmy stays in the pocket and takes a killer hit. That ball traveled 45yds in the air only to go through Carlos Hyde's hands@49ersHub @EatSleepFF pic.twitter.com/xY6ry7Bv6z
— John Chapman (@JL_Chapman) July 4, 2018
Yeah I'm showing it again
Great throw under pressure...Hyde drops the ball on this play
Does anyone have the gif of this play they can post? Need it for something
Huge reason why we paid mckinnon the big bucks and not hyde.
- genus49
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Originally posted by gold49digger:Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by NYniner85:This is my favorite play by Jimmy Garoppolo this year and it was an incompletion. Oline let Clowney come free on a delayed blitz but Jimmy stays in the pocket and takes a killer hit. That ball traveled 45yds in the air only to go through Carlos Hyde's hands@49ersHub @EatSleepFF pic.twitter.com/xY6ry7Bv6z
— John Chapman (@JL_Chapman) July 4, 2018
Yeah I'm showing it again
Great throw under pressure...Hyde drops the ball on this play
Does anyone have the gif of this play they can post? Need it for something
Huge reason why we paid mckinnon the big bucks and not hyde.
Exact argument I'm trying to enforce with that gif.
- thl408
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Originally posted by genus49:https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/181749-offseason-all22-film-study/page66/#post978
Exact argument I'm trying to enforce with that gif.
The reason Hyde missed this one is because he didn't adjust well to the long ball, not exactly a skill that RBs often practice - adjusting to a deep ball. I don't think I saw any plays where Jet caught a deep pass. Plenty of times Jet caught short passes and got lots of RAC though. That would be the biggest difference between Hyde and Jet as pass catchers imo. Hyde isn't as elusive in the open field.
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Originally posted by thl408:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/181749-offseason-all22-film-study/page66/#post978
The reason Hyde missed this one is because he didn't adjust well to the long ball, not exactly a skill that RBs often practice - adjusting to a deep ball. I don't think I saw any plays where Jet caught a deep pass. Plenty of times Jet caught short passes and got lots of RAC though. That would be the biggest difference between Hyde and Jet as pass catchers imo. Hyde isn't as elusive in the open field.
David Johnson is the only RB I can think of in the NFL that I've seen regularly catch passes deep down the field. I think there is a major difference between a RB being a good receiver for a RB and being able to track a football 30+ yards down the field regularly.
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/41790/Jerick-McKinnon
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/41745/Carlos-Hyde
For 2016, 98% of McKinnon's receptions were short.
For 2016, 85% of Hyde's receptions were short.
Hyde surprisingly had the advantage in catch percentage from 2014-2016.
2014-75%
2015-73%
2016-83%
to
2014-66%
2015-72%
2016-81%
It is nice that McKinnon's numbers have been progressively improving as a receiver.
McKinnon averaged 6.3 YAC to Hyde's 5.4 YAC.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by thl408:https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/181749-offseason-all22-film-study/page66/#post978
The reason Hyde missed this one is because he didn't adjust well to the long ball, not exactly a skill that RBs often practice - adjusting to a deep ball. I don't think I saw any plays where Jet caught a deep pass. Plenty of times Jet caught short passes and got lots of RAC though. That would be the biggest difference between Hyde and Jet as pass catchers imo. Hyde isn't as elusive in the open field.
David Johnson is the only RB I can think of in the NFL that I've seen regularly catch passes deep down the field. I think there is a major difference between a RB being a good receiver for a RB and being able to track a football 30+ yards down the field regularly.
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/41790/Jerick-McKinnon
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/41745/Carlos-Hyde
For 2016, 98% of McKinnon's receptions were short.
For 2016, 85% of Hyde's receptions were short.
Hyde surprisingly had the advantage in catch percentage from 2014-2016.
2014-75%
2015-73%
2016-83%
to
2014-66%
2015-72%
2016-81%
It is nice that McKinnon's numbers have been progressively improving as a receiver.
McKinnon averaged 6.3 YAC to Hyde's 5.4 YAC.
He also saw increased performancfrom qb's over that stretch. I think that plays a factor as well.
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Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by gold49digger:Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by NYniner85:This is my favorite play by Jimmy Garoppolo this year and it was an incompletion. Oline let Clowney come free on a delayed blitz but Jimmy stays in the pocket and takes a killer hit. That ball traveled 45yds in the air only to go through Carlos Hyde's hands@49ersHub @EatSleepFF pic.twitter.com/xY6ry7Bv6z
— John Chapman (@JL_Chapman) July 4, 2018
Yeah I'm showing it again
Great throw under pressure...Hyde drops the ball on this play
Does anyone have the gif of this play they can post? Need it for something
Huge reason why we paid mckinnon the big bucks and not hyde.
Exact argument I'm trying to enforce with that gif.
It's a tough ball for any RB to catch...my pt with that clip was JG CAN throw a deep ball. That s**t was in his hands regardless of who was trying to catch it and on top of it he had a unblocked Clowney crashing down on him in the process
He does need to work on footwork and turning his hips on the deep ball, we will have to see if he's progressed with that
- genus49
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
This is my favorite play by Jimmy Garoppolo this year and it was an incompletion. Oline let Clowney come free on a delayed blitz but Jimmy stays in the pocket and takes a killer hit. That ball traveled 45yds in the air only to go through Carlos Hyde's hands@49ersHub @EatSleepFF pic.twitter.com/xY6ry7Bv6z
— John Chapman (@JL_Chapman) July 4, 2018
Yeah I'm showing it again
Great throw under pressure...Hyde drops the ball on this play
Does anyone have the gif of this play they can post? Need it for something
Huge reason why we paid mckinnon the big bucks and not hyde.
Exact argument I'm trying to enforce with that gif.
It's a tough ball for any RB to catch...my pt with that clip was JG CAN throw a deep ball. That s**t was in his hands regardless of who was trying to catch it and on top of it he had a unblocked Clowney crashing down on him in the process
He does need to work on footwork and turning his hips on the deep ball, we will have to see if he's progressed with that
It's not a super easy catch(though don't tell that to the people making fun of Tom Brady for the SB missed catch) but Hyde slowed up on the route. Certainly makes it tougher to catch that way.
McKinnon imo makes that grab. Dude is all effort. I loved Hyde but with Jimmy in at QB imo Breida outplayed him. Hard to pay big money for a guy who looked worse than an UDFA rook.
- swaccmac1
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
This is my favorite play by Jimmy Garoppolo this year and it was an incompletion. Oline let Clowney come free on a delayed blitz but Jimmy stays in the pocket and takes a killer hit. That ball traveled 45yds in the air only to go through Carlos Hyde's hands@49ersHub @EatSleepFF pic.twitter.com/xY6ry7Bv6z
— John Chapman (@JL_Chapman) July 4, 2018
Yeah I'm showing it again
Great throw under pressure...Hyde drops the ball on this play
Does anyone have the gif of this play they can post? Need it for something
Huge reason why we paid mckinnon the big bucks and not hyde.
Exact argument I'm trying to enforce with that gif.
It's a tough ball for any RB to catch...my pt with that clip was JG CAN throw a deep ball. That s**t was in his hands regardless of who was trying to catch it and on top of it he had a unblocked Clowney crashing down on him in the process
He does need to work on footwork and turning his hips on the deep ball, we will have to see if he's progressed with that
It's not a super easy catch(though don't tell that to the people making fun of Tom Brady for the SB missed catch) but Hyde slowed up on the route. Certainly makes it tougher to catch that way.
McKinnon imo makes that grab. Dude is all effort. I loved Hyde but with Jimmy in at QB imo Breida outplayed him. Hard to pay big money for a guy who looked worse than an UDFA rook.
the first scoring opportunity against the Texans is perfectly captured in this video. Hyde was great in this game other than the dropped touchdown.
https://www.lockedon49ers.com/sf-49ers/49ers-film-room-garoppolo-scoring-opportunities-houston-texans/
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by swaccmac1:the first scoring opportunity against the Texans is perfectly captured in this video. Hyde was great in this game other than the dropped touchdown.
https://www.lockedon49ers.com/sf-49ers/49ers-film-room-garoppolo-scoring-opportunities-houston-texans/
It's the same clip?