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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
dude is only 6'2"? he's gonna suck.

Yeah Drew Brees and Russell Wilson are awful.
And Aaron Rodgers sucks...so did Montana, Young and Favre.....

You guys destroyed Chaz on that one!
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Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
This is a decent move for us. But the timing is a little seat of the pants.

I hope they hold him out until staley comes back against a soft team so he doesnt get killed right away.

The pats letting him go means they dont see him as the long term solution.

No, no it doesn't mean that at all. They were willing to pay him starter money to sit on the bench but they couldn't give him the one thing he wanted, playing time. It's really not that difficult to grasp.

It's not like this exact statement hasn't been repeated by everyone involved in this trade.
Super excited for this move but let's pray Jimmy G doesn't turn into another Flynn, Cassel, Osweiler
I just watched the press conference last night & when asked if he plan to be here for the long run he was like "will see what happens" i kind of took it "No guarantees ill be here to save your dying franchise"

I would of like it if he was like "yeah of course i would love to be this franchise's savior i will do everything in my power to make this happen for the long run" Seems to me he has little faith in this organization & u can't blame him he's used to being on elite teams. Hope i am wrong though
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
I just watched the press conference last night & when asked if he plan to be here for the long run he was like "will see what happens" i kind of took it "No guarantees ill be here to save your dying franchise"

I would of like it if he was like "yeah of course i would love to be this franchise's savior i will do everything in my power to make this happen for the long run" Seems to me he has little faith in this organization & u can't blame him he's used to being on elite teams. Hope i am wrong though

That would give him no leverage in Free Agency. You should take it as I will see what happens this year and what they are willing to pay me before I make any decisions.
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
I just watched the press conference last night & when asked if he plan to be here for the long run he was like "will see what happens" i kind of took it "No guarantees ill be here to save your dying franchise"

I would of like it if he was like "yeah of course i would love to be this franchise's savior i will do everything in my power to make this happen for the long run" Seems to me he has little faith in this organization & u can't blame him he's used to being on elite teams. Hope i am wrong though

Franchise tag.
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
dude is only 6'2"? he's gonna suck.

Aaron Rodgers and Joe Montana were 6'2...I think he'll be ok.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
I just watched the press conference last night & when asked if he plan to be here for the long run he was like "will see what happens" i kind of took it "No guarantees ill be here to save your dying franchise"

I would of like it if he was like "yeah of course i would love to be this franchise's savior i will do everything in my power to make this happen for the long run" Seems to me he has little faith in this organization & u can't blame him he's used to being on elite teams. Hope i am wrong though

That would give him no leverage in Free Agency. You should take it as I will see what happens this year and what they are willing to pay me before I make any decisions.

So u think his agent advised him to say something like that if the question came up? Sounds like business answer nothing wrong with that

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
That would give him no leverage in Free Agency. You should take it as I will see what happens this year and what they are willing to pay me before I make any decisions.

Exactly. He has to play the "we'll see what happens" card much in the same way the 49ers can't be like "OMG we totally will keep him here for 10+ years no matter what"

Honestly it's pretty stupid that the writers even ask those type of questions when you can pretty much write a script for what will be said.
Originally posted by fan49:
yeah lets argue against this LMAO

0 interceptions since entering the NFL in 2014.

2 career starts as a member of the New England Patriots.

5 career touchdown passes.

17 games played throughout his four-year career with the Patriots.

45 games played as Eastern Illinois' starting quarterback.

53 touchdowns passes his senior year at Eastern Illinois.

62nd overall pick by the Patriots in the second round of the 2014 NFL Draft.

67%completion percentage in the NFL.

106.2 {/b}quarterback rating through 17 games in the NFL.

118 touchdown passes in college.

147.9 quarterback rating in his regular season debut against the Kansas City Chiefs on"Monday Night Football" completing 6-of-7 passes for 70 yards and his first-career touchdown.

690 passing yards with the Patriots.

1,047career completions at Eastern Illinois, breaking Tony Romo's school record.

1,304 miles traveled from Foxborough, Mass. to Santa Clara, Calif.
5,050 {/b}passing yards his senior year in college.

13,156{career passing yards at Eastern Illinois.

Well, even these stats should convince some of those who doubt the trade. I was cautiously optimistic before, now I'm excited about the potential for success next season. Niners finally have a FQB, wow!
On KNBR right now
Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
This is a decent move for us. But the timing is a little seat of the pants.

I hope they hold him out until staley comes back against a soft team so he doesnt get killed right away.

The pats letting him go means they dont see him as the long term solution.

No, no it doesn't mean that at all. They were willing to pay him starter money to sit on the bench but they couldn't give him the one thing he wanted, playing time. It's really not that difficult to grasp.

I'm not sure what you mean about the timing being seat of the pants. The deadline drove the timing. Lynch has seen the college QBs so he knows what is out there in the draft. He's seen C.J. and Hoyer. Cousins, if he was franchised, would have cost at least one 1st rounder in a trade at minimum, if the Redskins were willing to trade. If not franchised he would require a huge contract.

There was already a lot of info out there before this decision was made. It just came down to trade value.
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Interesting article

"Word of internal strife in the New England Patriots organization surfaced Tuesday, with Ryan Burr of the Golf Chanel reporting team owner Robert Kraft, not head coach Bill Belichick, made the call to trade backup quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo to the San Francisco 49ers. Why? Because, someone within starting QB Tom Brady's camp told Burr, Kraft wanted to ensure Brady retired a Patriot. The report also stated Brady's relationship with Belichick is "not great" and that those close to Brady believed Belichick could have traded the 40-year-old QB after this season and rolled with Garoppolo.

It was an explosive report from an unusual source, and NFL Media's Ian Rapoport disputed it Wednesday during an appearance on Barstool Sports' "Pardon My Take" podcast. "What I was told is that this was definitely Belichick running the show here," Rapoport said. "I mean, he's got a lot of people helping him, but one of the things about being the man there is during draft day, he can say, 'There's a player scouts don't like' — Jamie Collins, for instance, was Bill Belichick's pick and turned out to be, for the first three years at least, a really, really good one. He just decided, 'That's who I want to take.' He loved him, he saw something and made sure they picked him.

"(The Garoppolo trade) was a trade that Belichick took on himself. With the really important ones, with the things involving the quarterbacks with Brady, it is really Belichick kind of spearheading it." That doesn't mean Belichick was happy to trade away Garoppolo, though. In a conference call after the deal was announced, the Patriots coach expressed regret that the team could not continue to carry both Brady and Garoppolo, saying the enviable QB situation was "just not sustainable" given the 25-year-old's contract status and desire for playing time. "The thing is, when a team makes a trade, everyone's usually happy, right?" Rapoport said. "Same thing with a contract extension. It's like celebration time. I don't get that sense at all from New England. It was a complicated, difficult, hard thing, and I don't think Belichick is excited about it. I think it's just, it's almost like he forced himself to do what's best for the team, like he has everyone else do, but I think he's kind of stung by this. I think it hurt him to do this trade because he likes Jimmy G so much."

The trade left Brady as the only quarterback on the Patriots' roster. Moving Garoppolo meant the team believes the NFL's oldest active signal-caller can continue to play at a high level for at least another three or four years. "When I talked to other GMs, what they say is there's no way Belichick would have traded (Garoppolo) if they think he's going to be a franchise guy," Rapoport said. "I think it's more like, we have to do this now because we're not going to franchise him. We have to. And Brady hasn't shown any signs of breaking down, so we are going to trust that Brady is going to play until 44 or 45, and we're just going to move forward because this is the only time we could ever make this move."
Read more at: https://nesn.com/2017/11/nfl-rumors-jimmy-garoppolo-trade-was-bill-belichicks-call-not-robert-krafts/
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Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Super excited for this move but let's pray Jimmy G doesn't turn into another Flynn, Cassel, Osweiler

i am more worried about the line wide outs and running back behind him than anything else. right now i think he is a diamond or possible potential hopeful diamond amongst a pile of trash. hopefully said trash gets taken out to curb and replaced by better things. he also brings a winning culture to this team which is sorely needed
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
I just watched the press conference last night & when asked if he plan to be here for the long run he was like "will see what happens" i kind of took it "No guarantees ill be here to save your dying franchise"

I would of like it if he was like "yeah of course i would love to be this franchise's savior i will do everything in my power to make this happen for the long run" Seems to me he has little faith in this organization & u can't blame him he's used to being on elite teams. Hope i am wrong though

That would give him no leverage in Free Agency. You should take it as I will see what happens this year and what they are willing to pay me before I make any decisions.

Yeah, I actually like that he said that. You don't want your QB looking to far ahead or getting caught up in the moment. You want them focused on the year and now. If he is like that off the field then he should be the same on the field, as in not getting to worked up for scoring and forgetting about and not dwelling on an interception.

Also I am not worried about him getting signed long-term. I think it will happen before the season is over
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