Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by NYniner85:

#49ers Exec. VP of Football Operations Paraag Marathe currently sitting next to Garapolo's agent Don Yee. I'm sure a deal will get done.

— Ryan Sakamoto (@BEASTwriter_) October 31, 2017

From yesterday...get it done

im guessing a Brock Osweiler type of deal. Maybe 3 years, $20M per year

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jcool:
FWIW: Just because Carr is now a top QB doesn't mean in 2014 he was a top QB. He had a 76.6 QB rating with 22 INT/Fumbles while completing less then 60% of his passes & Oakland went 3-13.

So you think he should be ranked 32nd in the league though? Cam has a horrible yr that yr from what I remember...I don't think Carr was the worst starting qb but PFF did

I have no problem with that rating. As for Cam Newton: 82.1 QB rating. So not sure where he was ranked but slightly better season?

Originally posted by darockzillahitman:

I think we should be awfully concerned about the fact that Belichick was willing to trade him, and for only a 2nd round pick, when he used a 2nd rounder to draft him to begin with.

Belichick does not lose on trades. He knows how to make it so that all his coaches and players would fail anywhere else. He teaches them to fail without him, and they don't realize it. He's the greatest chess player of all time.

He makes it so his players can't succeed outside the Patriots' gimmick offensive and defensive systems, and he makes it so his coaches have no idea how to implement what he does anywhere else. The man is a twisted genius. Last year's Patriots team was the least talented roster in the NFL, and he made them 17-2 and Super Bowl champions.

The NFL runs through Belichick. You have a chance to win when he decides he's going to give you a chance to win. Our only hope is that Belichick just felt bad about letting Jimmy's career go to waste backing up Brady for another 5 years. Otherwise, we're going to see Jed talking about "accountability" and how he wants to "compete to with Shuper Bowlsh" after a couple firings in another 3-4 years.

Since when is an Erhardt-Perkins offense a gimmick? In fact, it's one of the 3 main pro offenses.

Originally posted by JustinNiner:
im guessing a Brock Osweiler type of deal. Maybe 3 years, $20M per year

If we're smart we'll lock him up for 4-5 year deal but we'll see which way it goes.

Jimmy does only have a small sample size so the question is will he want to get more money now or take a chance on himself and be up for a new contract sooner rather than later.

if I'm the 49ers I'm paying a little more than I probably should based on the short sample size to get him locked down longer. Assuming he doesn't fall apart completely the next deal he gets will get him paid like a top 5 QB which happens with pretty much every QB contract these days regardless if the QB is actually a top 5 QB.

According to Maiocco, he's going to be active on Sunday. CJ and him will remain as the only 2 QBs on the 53-man roster.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by darockzillahitman:
I think we should be awfully concerned about the fact that Belichick was willing to trade him, and for only a 2nd round pick, when he used a 2nd rounder to draft him to begin with.

Belichick does not lose on trades.

Chandler Jones has been killing it for the Cards and is one of the best young edge rushers in football. Jamie Collins had played well for the Browns and Jacoby Brisett overall has done a decent job of stepping as QB for Indy.

Meanwhile what happened with Kony Ealy? Dwayne Allen has been garbage in NE despite being paid a ton. You need to download the new update for your talking points.

Ascribing some mystical qualities to Belichick is silly. The reality is that the Patriots tried to extend Garoppolo but were unable to give him the starting job that he covets so they had to get back something or lose him for nothing potentially.

Why didn't they get more back? Because no one was offering more for an 8 game audition of a QB with a couple NFL starts. No conspiracy, nothing sinister about it.

I'm going to let you in on a little secret: Belichick traded those two because they were freelancing. The Patriots' defense improved after both of them were moved. Belichick doesn't care about anything other than the fact that players follow his instructions, because they're always correct and they will always result in success. Football players are nothing more than mercenaries to Belichick.

Bringing in players is different from exporting them. Belichick brings in guys he thinks might grasp his schemes well. When he guesses wrong, it's not big deal. They're history.

If Belichick thought Jimmy G was the guy to take over for Tom Brady after he retires, he would just have him signed long-term. The Patriots have a team of interchangeable scrubs outside the QB position, so they have plenty of cap space.

Again, you'd better hope that Belichick is doing this because he likes the guy and wants him to get what he deserves somewhere else.

Originally posted by AlexCat49er:
According to Maiocco, he's going to be active on Sunday.

Kinda has to be, who else is gonna be the backup for Beathard?

Originally posted by genus49:
This was a FANTASTIC trade. Even if it doesn't work out a 2nd round pick(especially when you have 2 of them) is always worth a shot to find a starting QB when that kid was a pretty good prospect entering the league and has game experience and mentorship from guys of the caliber of Brady and Belichick.

I'm shocked that some people aren't thrilled about this. I'm still smiling.

This - good post.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:

Originally posted by darockzillahitman:

I think we should be awfully concerned about the fact that Belichick was willing to trade him, and for only a 2nd round pick, when he used a 2nd rounder to draft him to begin with.

Belichick does not lose on trades. He knows how to make it so that all his coaches and players would fail anywhere else. He teaches them to fail without him, and they don't realize it. He's the greatest chess player of all time.

He makes it so his players can't succeed outside the Patriots' gimmick offensive and defensive systems, and he makes it so his coaches have no idea how to implement what he does anywhere else. The man is a twisted genius. Last year's Patriots team was the least talented roster in the NFL, and he made them 17-2 and Super Bowl champions.

The NFL runs through Belichick. You have a chance to win when he decides he's going to give you a chance to win. Our only hope is that Belichick just felt bad about letting Jimmy's career go to waste backing up Brady for another 5 years. Otherwise, we're going to see Jed talking about "accountability" and how he wants to "compete to with Shuper Bowlsh" after a couple firings in another 3-4 years.

So much wrong in this post. Did pats win on the Dwayne Allen trade or the Cooks trade? Saints seem to be doing perfectly fine without him. And they got a first instead of having to destroy their salary cap next year. Dwayne Allen hasn't done s**t.

Did they win when they sent their second rounder for Kony Ealy(who isn't even on the roster anymore) and a third? Hell no.

You said last years pats were the least talented team??? And won the super bowl , the f**k.

Maybe hop off Belichecks nuts ? You're acting like he's a god and it's weird.

You could add the Dorsett trade as well...what has that dude done?

Just because Bill made some good moves a while ago doesn't mean he's gonna win every trade...and just from listening to him talk he didn't want to move jimmy G but had no choice.

Yea I would bet anything that Bill wishes he had that one back. Brisset has already proven he's a very high level backup. And a third was invested in him just a few years ago.

Originally posted by AlexCat49er:
According to Maiocco, he's going to be active on Sunday. CJ and him will remain as the only 2 QBs on the 53-man roster.

woooo !

Originally posted by Jcool:

I have no problem with that rating. As for Cam Newton: 82.1 QB rating. So not sure where he was ranked but slightly better season?

2014 cam had 18 TDs and 12 INTs

Edit: I see you changed it

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by AlexCat49er:
According to Maiocco, he's going to be active on Sunday.

Kinda has to be, who else is gonna be the backup for Beathard?

They could have promoted Nick Mullens.

Originally posted by darockzillahitman:
I'm going to let you in on a little secret: Belichick traded those two because they were freelancing. The Patriots' defense improved after both of them were moved. Belichick doesn't care about anything other than the fact that players follow his instructions, because they're always correct and they will always result in success. Football players are nothing more than mercenaries to Belichick.

Bringing in players is different from exporting them. Belichick brings in guys he thinks might grasp his schemes well. When he guesses wrong, it's not big deal. They're history.

If Belichick thought Jimmy G was the guy to take over for Tom Brady after he retires, he would just have him signed long-term. The Patriots have a team of interchangeable scrubs outside the QB position, so they have plenty of cap space.

Again, you'd better hope that Belichick is doing this because he likes the guy and wants him to get what he deserves somewhere else.

Collins was traded because of that, still doesnt' mean he "won" that trade.

Jones was just a way to get something before he left via free agency but the guy is a top level pass rusher and someone who would've been a huge help to the defense this year for the Pats. What did they get out of that trade btw? A corner who was fumbling away games during kickoffs and wasn't good enough to play corner before getting hurt and Jonathan Cooper who didn't even make the active roster.

This isn't the same Belichick who was trading away Deion Branch and David Givens to see them go on to do squat.

Originally posted by Jcool:

#49ers coach Kyle Shanahan: "We didn't bring Jimmy (Garoppolo) here to save our season. We brought him here to improve our organization."

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) November 1, 2017

Garoppolo is currently helping them color code their filing cabinets as we speak.