Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by GarnerValleyFan:

Mullens has been a model for durability, and displayed an unraveled love for studying Shanny's playbooks and game films. A married man who focus is solely on FOOTBALL.

Curious what your trying to get across in your posts?
That Mullen's is better then jimmy?
You'd rather have Mullen's starting over jimmy?

I just don't want to assume so I'm asking because as much as I like Mullen's, and I think Mullen's can progress even more, jimmy has shown more to me and I feel he is better at this point in time then Mullen's and I feel jimmy has a lot of room to improve which would be scary.
I know we are way past the five 2017 games that jimmy played but I've just watched them again and it's pretty amazing how he was processing the defenses during that stretch. He was directing where the receiver/TE should be on there route telling how the DB will react during some sideline video/audio.

If all we see this year is JG playing as well as he did in 2017, then given the improvement in team talent (assuming everyone at least starts out healthy) - of course, along with Shanahan's play-calling - I think the team will have a good solid year. If 2017 JG was an anomaly and he plays worse or very inconsistently, then it will be time to re-evaluate. But I don't see any reason to be overly pessimistic about how well he'll play this year. If you want to look at things utterly realistically, then, sure, there's more than a minimal chance that he'll get hurt again or goes syrup-brained (reactions slow as syrup) and you can have that on your mind all the time - it's realistic. But you don't have to be idealistic to enjoy the possibility that the team has added a significant amount of talent and that JG could very well be leading the way. It's not lame homer hope, it's just plain old "hey, this has the elements of being something pretty good" hope.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by GarnerValleyFan:

Mullens has been a model for durability, and displayed an unraveled love for studying Shanny's playbooks and game films. A married man who focus is solely on FOOTBALL.

Curious what your trying to get across in your posts?
That Mullen's is better then jimmy?
You'd rather have Mullen's starting over jimmy?

I just don't want to assume so I'm asking because as much as I like Mullen's, and I think Mullen's can progress even more, jimmy has shown more to me and I feel he is better at this point in time then Mullen's and I feel jimmy has a lot of room to improve which would be scary.
I know we are way past the five 2017 games that jimmy played but I've just watched them again and it's pretty amazing how he was processing the defenses during that stretch. He was directing where the receiver/TE should be on there route telling how the DB will react during some sideline video/audio.

Yes. If Mullens is playing for any substantial length of time, the season outlook goes back to last year - maybe a bit better, but definitely not a playoff contender.

If Jimmy is healthy and can replicate the same standard of performance, we are a playoff contender. He very well may be better, considering the time off, knowledge of the offense, and generally better players around him.

I concur with an earlier comment that this year is a make or break for him. He needs to show he can do it, and the opportunity ahead of him is ideal for it.

No insult to Mullens but in no way is this team the same without Jimmy G.

Are there really fans saying we should have Mullens start over Jimmy? That's all I need to tell me to stay away from this thread until camp

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by GarnerValleyFan:
https://i.redd.it/m3635pmkc2521.jpg

10>4
Facts

Mullen's ACL > Jimmy's ACL

#moreFACTS

Originally posted by GarnerValleyFan:

Mullens has been a model for durability, and displayed an unraveled love for studying Shanny's playbooks and game films. A married man who focus is solely on FOOTBALL.

Mullens, is that you?

where did all the stupid in this thread come from?

Originally posted by defenderDX:

where did all the stupid in this thread come from?

The off-season

Oh dear God, just kill this thread with fire and start over.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by GarnerValleyFan:
Mullens has been a model for durability, and displayed an unraveled love for studying Shanny's playbooks and game films. A married man who focus is solely on FOOTBALL.

Curious what your trying to get across in your posts?
That Mullen's is better then jimmy?
You'd rather have Mullen's starting over jimmy?

I just don't want to assume so I'm asking because as much as I like Mullen's, and I think Mullen's can progress even more, jimmy has shown more to me and I feel he is better at this point in time then Mullen's and I feel jimmy has a lot of room to improve which would be scary.
I know we are way past the five 2017 games that jimmy played but I've just watched them again and it's pretty amazing how he was processing the defenses during that stretch. He was directing where the receiver/TE should be on there route telling how the DB will react during some sideline video/audio.

Yes. If Mullens is playing for any substantial length of time, the season outlook goes back to last year - maybe a bit better, but definitely not a playoff contender.

If Jimmy is healthy and can replicate the same standard of performance, we are a playoff contender. He very well may be better, considering the time off, knowledge of the offense, and generally better players around him.

I concur with an earlier comment that this year is a make or break for him. He needs to show he can do it, and the opportunity ahead of him is ideal for it.

I don't think this is a make or break year for Jimmy. When he struggles with game to game consistency, I'm not closing the book on him or label him as an inconsistent QB. He's very young in QB experience. He's going to, not might, but going to struggle from time to time as he plays in different game situations, against different DCs. After 10 official starts, two of which he didn't finish, he still has a lot to learn and the only way he'll learn is to actually play and not watch film with Mike Shanahan from the all22 view. I myself can read defenses from the all22 and know where to throw the ball. It's so much easier that way than facing live bullets from behind the offensive line.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by GarnerValleyFan:

Mullens has been a model for durability, and displayed an unraveled love for studying Shanny's playbooks and game films. A married man who focus is solely on FOOTBALL.

Curious what your trying to get across in your posts?
That Mullen's is better then jimmy?
You'd rather have Mullen's starting over jimmy?

I just don't want to assume so I'm asking because as much as I like Mullen's, and I think Mullen's can progress even more, jimmy has shown more to me and I feel he is better at this point in time then Mullen's and I feel jimmy has a lot of room to improve which would be scary.
I know we are way past the five 2017 games that jimmy played but I've just watched them again and it's pretty amazing how he was processing the defenses during that stretch. He was directing where the receiver/TE should be on there route telling how the DB will react during some sideline video/audio.

Yes. If Mullens is playing for any substantial length of time, the season outlook goes back to last year - maybe a bit better, but definitely not a playoff contender.

If Jimmy is healthy and can replicate the same standard of performance, we are a playoff contender. He very well may be better, considering the time off, knowledge of the offense, and generally better players around him.

I concur with an earlier comment that this year is a make or break for him. He needs to show he can do it, and the opportunity ahead of him is ideal for it.

I don't think this is a make or break year for Jimmy. When he struggles with game to game consistency, I'm not closing the book on him or label him as an inconsistent QB. He's very young in QB experience. He's going to, not might, but going to struggle from time to time as he plays in different game situations, against different DCs. After 10 official starts, two of which he didn't finish, he still has a lot to learn and the only way he'll learn is to actually play and not watch film with Mike Shanahan from the all22 view. I myself can read defenses from the all22 and know where to throw the ball. It's so much easier that way than facing live bullets from behind the offensive line.

Agreed, but if it's a regression-type year, and we end up with a top pick again, and a QB is available, it could be interesting.

Now, I expect him to play at or slightly better than he has already shown. Obviously he'll have up and down games, drives, throws, etc., but he's already passed the eye test for me.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by GarnerValleyFan:
Mullens has been a model for durability, and displayed an unraveled love for studying Shanny's playbooks and game films. A married man who focus is solely on FOOTBALL.

Curious what your trying to get across in your posts?
That Mullen's is better then jimmy?
You'd rather have Mullen's starting over jimmy?

I just don't want to assume so I'm asking because as much as I like Mullen's, and I think Mullen's can progress even more, jimmy has shown more to me and I feel he is better at this point in time then Mullen's and I feel jimmy has a lot of room to improve which would be scary.
I know we are way past the five 2017 games that jimmy played but I've just watched them again and it's pretty amazing how he was processing the defenses during that stretch. He was directing where the receiver/TE should be on there route telling how the DB will react during some sideline video/audio.

Yes. If Mullens is playing for any substantial length of time, the season outlook goes back to last year - maybe a bit better, but definitely not a playoff contender.

If Jimmy is healthy and can replicate the same standard of performance, we are a playoff contender. He very well may be better, considering the time off, knowledge of the offense, and generally better players around him.

I concur with an earlier comment that this year is a make or break for him. He needs to show he can do it, and the opportunity ahead of him is ideal for it.

I don't think this is a make or break year for Jimmy. When he struggles with game to game consistency, I'm not closing the book on him or label him as an inconsistent QB. He's very young in QB experience. He's going to, not might, but going to struggle from time to time as he plays in different game situations, against different DCs. After 10 official starts, two of which he didn't finish, he still has a lot to learn and the only way he'll learn is to actually play and not watch film with Mike Shanahan from the all22 view. I myself can read defenses from the all22 and know where to throw the ball. It's so much easier that way than facing live bullets from behind the offensive line.

Agreed, but if it's a regression-type year, and we end up with a top pick again, and a QB is available, it could be interesting.

Now, I expect him to play at or slightly better than he has already shown. Obviously he'll have up and down games, drives, throws, etc., but he's already passed the eye test for me.

Ending up with a top pick again with a full year of Jimmy would be a disaster. When you said make or break I took that as, "if he isn't good this year, he'll never be good", which is why I brought up his lack of experience and the need to play and learn. I think it'll be a process and there will be growing pains. Whatever we see in 2019, I think it'll be better in 2020 as he gains experience.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by GarnerValleyFan:
https://i.redd.it/m3635pmkc2521.jpg

10>4
Facts

Mullen's ACL > Jimmy's ACL

#moreFACTS

Mullens were put into more difficult situations, being 3 string, lacking practice time with 1st team offense, having to learn footwork from youtube, and yet Shanny said openly that Mullens knew the playbook better than 'anyone' on the team. His hard work earned the respect from teammates, there should be no dispute that Mullens were READY when he was called upon.

Does Mullens has the tools of Tom Brady? May be not, but how many QBs have? Montana was widely cited as not having the strongest arm, but that didn't stop Joe, did it?

What we have seen is the tip of the iceberg.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by GarnerValleyFan:

https://i.redd.it/m3635pmkc2521.jpg

10>4
Facts

Mullen's ACL > Jimmy's ACL

#moreFACTS