Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by OnTheClock:On JG that was more my feel on the "type" of guy he is, but my overall point is that Cousins has been little more than a stat-stuffing loser when it comes to impacting his team in the Win column. With so many games decided by small margins these days, his inability to be a closer throughout his career has to be looked at as a critical factor towards that. Cousins isn't the only one who puts up big numbers and loses. I want to know my QB can win when faced with tough matchups, critical game situations, etc.
While sure there may have been other factors involved, I personally don't think it's a coincidence that Washington minus Cousins went from loser to a winner last year (while Alex Smith was healthy), and Minnesota went from a Championship contender to barely over .500 with him there.
Imo there's only a couple QBs that have that "clutch" gene...it makes a good QB great. I never said Kirk was great
There's plenty of good QBs that you could call stat-stuffers (that I wouldn't hate as my qb at one pt) Stafford/Palmer come to mind. Matt Ryan was a 1-5 in the playoffs before kyle and alway put up numbers.
So, do you think Keemun is better than Kirk? Or do you think he was placed in a perfect scenario based on his skill set? We saw what he was in Denver last yr with a different OC
As far as Washington with Alex, they won one game all yr vs a +500 team and it was Dallas in D.C... in which they held Zeke to 33 yards and Alex had 178 yards 1 TD and completed 56% of his passesHe had his team 6-4, was avg 218 yards, 1 td to 1/2 INT ratio. Pretty much alex smith numbers.
I'm team JG all the way, I just don't think Kirk sucks as bad as you're saying
It's not that I think Kirk sucks, it's just that I'd take other guys over him and I place a lot more value on other intangibles over the production compared to his peers -- that's really what I was getting at. Of course Keenum isn't better, he is a system QB who was a good game manager there and had great chemistry with his teammates. It was very unlikely he'd repeat the same success anywhere else. Alex's situation was pretty clear -- their entire OL was in shambles from injury to top-tier starters and he had absolutely zero weapons to throw to. It's amazing they were still winning.
I would take a healthy Alex over Cousins just like I'd take Jimmy over Cousins because I think their clutch factor and situational awareness is another tool in the toolset that I haven't seen from Kirk (escapability is another one I haven't mentioned).
Vikings still had a top 5 defense last year, but the team went 1-6-1 against teams with winning records in 2018. What's troubling I think for Vikings fans is, the majority of these games they weren't particularly close. Lots of two-score losses (average loss margin 12 points). Shouldn't happen with a defense like that and an offense featuring Diggs, Thielen, Rudolph, and Dalvin Cook. Mullens in 8 games had as many wins against winning teams with an inferior supporting cast on both sides of the ball.
Of course in the end it's a difference of opinion. I just see a guy that seems to fall short almost every time he's challenged.
hasn't worked out with Garoppolo and "stays away" from the 49ers practice facility. He doesn't want to interfere, preferring to let the franchise's new signal-caller create his own legacy in the Bay Area.
