Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Afrikan:

na genus49 I'd rather see what Mullens has than try Cousins.

WAAAAY Less money, and better potential? Cousins is a Vet and has been on stacked teams, imo. Curious to see what Mullens can do with more firepower and a better defense.

but for now ALL JIMMY!!!!

Agree with you also, Afrikan . I'd take Mullie over Cousins . Not a knock on Cousins, but i like Mullie better for right now , based on his surprising development this past yr. Cousins is fine, but we got Mullins in place, knows the playbook, can get rid of the ball bingo, bango, bongo, and he makes quick reads. He also just so happens to currently be on our roster....and Cousins is on Vikes payroll . This discussion is over . Anyone that wants to continue it, check back in two yrs. Right now, i have seen Mullins under fire, taking hits and making plays.

For a #2 , how could we possibly do better? Besides there are half a dozen teams where he starts iif he were there.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Agree with you also, Afrikan . I'd take Mullie over Cousins . Not a knock on Cousins, but i like Mullie better for right now , based on his surprising development this past yr. Cousins is fine, but we got Mullins in place, knows the playbook, can get rid of the ball bingo, bango, bongo, and he makes quick reads. He also just so happens to currently be on our roster....and Cousins is on Vikes payroll . This discussion is over . Anyone that wants to continue it, check back in two yrs. Right now, i have seen Mullins under fire, taking hits and making plays.

For a #2 , how could we possibly do better? Besides there are half a dozen teams where he starts iif he were there.

Kirk doesn't know the playbook? It's all hypothetical but Mullens is not better than Kirk, we gotta put the homer stuff aside.

cousins is more than fine if he did not have jimmy. i look forward to seeing jimmy take some hits in pre season. yes i know that sounds queer. but he has to get some work in and he has to get hit. with our offensive offensive line. that should not be to hard to achieve. both he and sherman and the jet need pre season games. i am one of the few who do not believe in babying players in pre season

Originally posted by Giedi:

Too bad Jimmy can't work out and get mentored by Montana.

Joe Montana has never been the warm-and-cuddly type. The legendary NFL quarterback, arguably the greatest to ever do it, reaffirmed that when describing his chilly relationship with Jimmy Garoppolo.
Montana, a three-time Super Bowl MVP with the San Francisco 49ers, told The Mercury News that he hasn't worked out with Garoppolo and "stays away" from the 49ers practice facility. He doesn't want to interfere, preferring to let the franchise's new signal-caller create his own legacy in the Bay Area.
"No, I stay away from there," Montana told Cam Inman. "I've been there, done that and have moved on with my investment fund."
https://heavy.com/sports/2019/06/49ers-joe-montana-jimmy-garappolo-news/

I have thot about this over the past yrs, and have seen it play out in different venues....an attorney retires and his junior partner takes over. Is he doing his jr partner a favor by staying around? I don't think so. I've seen it in my own medical practice. I retired and was delighted when asked to stay around, but all that did was hurt my partner when folks wanted to see me instead of him. And on and on it goes. Car dealerships, CPAs, electricians, plumbers, small business owners., etc, etc. etc.

Nope the best play for Joe was to do exactly what he did and continues to do. He is an icon. When here he is contrasted to JimmyG. Now if he wants to do this out of the public eye, say if JG says, "Joe, can i pick your brain on xyz?" I can see Joe doing that. But to come out on the practice field....nah, no way. All eyes would be on the greatest of all time...the iconic JOE MONTANA...and not on JG and kyle...where the attn belongs.

I'd bet anything Joe is doing what is best for the 49ers, keeping a low profile, seen infrequently, and he is always GOAT. It is the right decision and i bet it actually is hard on Joe not to come back and once again soak up the adulation once he returns to the 49er practice field. A cameo appearance rarely? Sure, he'd do it.

But of all people, Joe knows that the moment he steps foot on 49er turf, then all attn is focused on him...and not jimmyG. My hat is off to Joe, GOAT, and his staying away from 49er headlines. He KNOWS that the attn needs to be on Jimmy, Kyle, and all the talent that has miraculously suddenly appeared out of nowhere, off the IR, out of late rd draft picks, new FAs, UDFAs, trades and so on. I think Joe would love to be out there, being recognized, and adulated.

I think he is , correctly, taking one for the team, by NOT showing up for OTAs, PS, and finally games. Sure he would love to be out there.... Takes a real man to NOT do that. Tip of the hat to Joe for doing the right thing for his team, the 49ers. An occasional appearance...sure. But to stiick around? That does not help the 49ers. It takes the brite lights away from the new kid on the block...JimmmyG. And that's where the attn should be.

Not surprisingly, even in retirement, Joe is doing what is best for his team, the 49ers. Anyone really think he isn't the GOAT ? He is and in every connotation of the word.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Agree with you also, Afrikan . I'd take Mullie over Cousins . Not a knock on Cousins, but i like Mullie better for right now , based on his surprising development this past yr. Cousins is fine, but we got Mullins in place, knows the playbook, can get rid of the ball bingo, bango, bongo, and he makes quick reads. He also just so happens to currently be on our roster....and Cousins is on Vikes payroll . This discussion is over . Anyone that wants to continue it, check back in two yrs. Right now, i have seen Mullins under fire, taking hits and making plays.

For a #2 , how could we possibly do better? Besides there are half a dozen teams where he starts iif he were there.

Kirk doesn't know the playbook? It's all hypothetical but Mullens is not better than Kirk, we gotta put the homer stuff aside.

85 is spot on.... cousins is better than nick. this is one time when you really need to take your we like our guys homer glasses off

montana will never be a coach and neither will rice.. great elite hall of fame players do not make great coaches overall, especially in this day and age with all of the diva guys out there. their brains do not think the same as others. joe tried to be a tv guy but that was a miserable failure. alex smith would make a better qb coach than joe in my opinion. or ken dorsey who is actually.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Kirk doesn't know the playbook? It's all hypothetical but Mullens is not better than Kirk, we gotta put the homer stuff aside.

NY, you are missing my point. It is simply that Jimmy and Mullins are here in the here and now. Cousins is in Vikesland under contract...and for not just this yr but next also. Kirk is fine. But our guys are here now, guys on our payroll. Under those circumstances, postulating about "what ifs"....my point is we are in the present and any kind of thots like that are just idle talk. That's it. I also happen to like both JG and Mullie as his #2 better than i like cousins. That takes nothing away from Cousins. He's fine. But i like our guys better. Just my preference. And that isnt' being a homer. That is just accepting facts on the ground.

A guy like Florio? This just sounds like a grant cohen clickbait. Nothing more, nothing less...but i do think his position is way off base...regardless of what his bud , Simms says. And my feelings for grant c are well known . Same for Florio, who i now no longer read.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

NY, you are missing my point. It is simply that Jimmy and Mullins are here in the here and now. Cousins is in Vikesland under contract...and for not just this yr but next also. Kirk is fine. But our guys are here now, guys on our payroll. Under those circumstances, postulating about "what ifs"....my point is we are in the present and any kind of thots like that are just idle talk. That's it. I also happen to like both JG and Mullie as his #2 better than i like cousins. That takes nothing away from Cousins. He's fine. But i like our guys better. Just my preference. And that isnt' being a homer. That is just accepting facts on the ground.

A guy like Florio? This just sounds like a grant cohen clickbait. Nothing more, nothing less...but i do think his position is way off base...regardless of what his bud , Simms says. And my feelings for grant c are well known . Same for Florio, who i now no longer read.

Dude it's all hypothetical...it's mid June and we got nothing else to talk about

I'm not saying Kirk will ever be here BUT imo he's a better overall QB than Mullens. That's my pt. He does have a relationship with Kyle and does know the offense. Wouldn't be the most shocking outcome if for whatever reason Jimmy isn't our QB in two yrs and Kirk is ours...That said, I hope Jimmy G is the answer here for 10 yrs.

It's all in fun end of the day.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

na genus49 I'd rather see what Mullens has than try Cousins.

WAAAAY Less money, and better potential? Cousins is a Vet and has been on stacked teams, imo. Curious to see what Mullens can do with more firepower and a better defense.

but for now ALL JIMMY!!!!

Mullens might not even be on the roster come final cuts....I'd prefer to keep him over CJ but the coaches love them some CJ.

Kirk is by far a better QB than BDN. Nick doesn't have a NFL caliber arm his potential is pretty limited. Great backup

Unless we trade Mullens, CJ being cut is a lock.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Unless we trade Mullens, CJ being cut is a lock.

traded for a 6th or 7th maybe? or do you think teams will just wait us out knowing they can sign him and not give up anything?

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Unless we trade Mullens, CJ being cut is a lock.

traded for a 6th or 7th maybe? or do you think teams will just wait us out knowing they can sign him and not give up anything?

A QB on another team would have to be injured and we would have to get back a 2nd round pick IMO. So basically it's Mullens will be our backup.

No way we will be able to trade Beathard.

Originally posted by cciowa:
cousins is more than fine if he did not have jimmy. i look forward to seeing jimmy take some hits in pre season. yes i know that sounds queer. but he has to get some work in and he has to get hit. with our offensive offensive line. that should not be to hard to achieve. both he and sherman and the jet need pre season games. i am one of the few who do not believe in babying players in pre season

I have to agree with you there cc, maybe the first and third preseason games then I'd leave the reps for the young guys like Wilton Speight to showcase his skills.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by cciowa:
cousins is more than fine if he did not have jimmy. i look forward to seeing jimmy take some hits in pre season. yes i know that sounds queer. but he has to get some work in and he has to get hit. with our offensive offensive line. that should not be to hard to achieve. both he and sherman and the jet need pre season games. i am one of the few who do not believe in babying players in pre season

I have to agree with you there cc, maybe the first and third preseason games then I'd leave the reps for the young guys like Wilton Speight to showcase his skills.

i never played the game but i think there is something to be said for players getting some time in pre season.. and yes especially guys coming off being injured. gotta know if jimmy and jet can take a hit. your theory of the first and third games is good. i am a fan of letting cj take alot of hits and then discarding him. lol

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Unless we trade Mullens, CJ being cut is a lock.

traded for a 6th or 7th maybe? or do you think teams will just wait us out knowing they can sign him and not give up anything?

A QB on another team would have to be injured and we would have to get back a 2nd round pick IMO. So basically it's Mullens will be our backup.

No way we will be able to trade Beathard.

you are most likely right.. i was hoping to salvage a 6th or 7th out of him. iowa sure can not develop qbs for the nfl. i guess chuck long was decent.. geez. i wanted us to take ricki stanzi back in the day

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Well FWIW he does state that if Jimmy G isn't the Jimmy G they envisioned that they could look to move on from him. The article doesn't say that they are looking to move on from him. You gotta admit there might be some possibility that this does in fact happen, after all the 49ers could move on from Jimmy G with a very minor cap penalty. And two, I think it would be the QB that goes before Shanahan looks to lose his job.

Not what they envisoned? Come on. They made a decision not to go after Kirk Cousins. They could have gotten him in the 2018 FA class and not given up a 2nd rounder.

This so called scenario also assumes that Kirk Cousins has another poor season to which Minnesota decides to let him go; so why would you want him??? That would be two straight seasons on a quality team that has underachieved with the only real change being at QB from the 2018 NFC Championship.......and If he plays well he will not be available. I really don't see the Viking giving up on him that quickly. They made a big gamble in letting Keenum walk after his fantastic season. There would need to be an admission of failure by both teams after only two years.....not going to happen.

They still could've gotten Cousins even after the Jimmy G. trade. If Jimmy G. didn't go on that 5 game winning streak and struggled during his first year in SF, I have no doubt Shanahan would've gone after Cousins. After all they still could've tagged and traded Jimmy G. during free agency.

And if Cousins had another poor season in Minnesota and they decided to let him walk or put him up for trade, no doubt Shanahan would be first in line. But if he plays well, then of course Minnesota wouldn't let him walk or they wouldn't trade him. Multiple players would be cut or traded to keep your franchise QB. And that's where I wouldn't put much stock into Florio's article or statement he made, no team would ever just let their franchise QB walk so easy even if he didn't want to be there.